There WILL be a Rapture… Ready?
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26 When Terah had lived seventy years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
32 The days of Terah were two hundred and five years; and Terah died in Haran. Gen 11
5 Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him. Gen 21
7 These are the days of the years of Abraham’s life, a hundred and seventy-five years. 8 Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age, an old man and full of years, and was gathered to his people Gen 25
Septuagint----And Tharrha lived seventy years, and begot Abram, and Nachor, and Arrhan.
I know you cannot possibly be wrong, Triplets, Abraham first, more than one wife?
26 When Terah had lived seventy years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
32 The days of Terah were two hundred and five years; and Terah died in Haran. Gen 11
5 Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him. Gen 21
7 These are the days of the years of Abraham’s life, a hundred and seventy-five years. 8 Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age, an old man and full of years, and was gathered to his people Gen 25
Septuagint----And Tharrha lived seventy years, and begot Abram, and Nachor, and Arrhan.
I know you cannot possibly be wrong, Triplets, Abraham first, more than one wife?
Nope. You are wrong again buddy. Sorry.
Literally EVERYBODY knows how this works. Time for you to level up?
205 - 75 = 130
Gen 11:32
And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.
Gen 12:4
So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
Literally EVERYBODY knows how this works. Time for you to level up?
205 - 75 = 130
Gen 11:32
And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.
Gen 12:4
So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
LOL. Thats the problem buddy.
You just don't get it. And you have to get the math right too.
Anyhoo, I am sticking with the date of the birth of Abraham as 2322-ish BC.
I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary.
Bonus material. Enjoy buddy!
BTW, my opinion is that the "fire" that rained down and destroyed Sodom was almost certainly ANOTHER electromagnetic plasma catastrophe not unlike the Babel event, but merely local and tightly constrained rather than vast and global. This seems to be a destructive tool that God uses when He must.
https://www.barrysetterfield.org/Genesis_1-11/part_12_Babel.html#Genesis11_2
https://www.varchive.org/itb/confus.htm
You just don't get it. And you have to get the math right too.
Anyhoo, I am sticking with the date of the birth of Abraham as 2322-ish BC.
I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary.
Bonus material. Enjoy buddy!
BTW, my opinion is that the "fire" that rained down and destroyed Sodom was almost certainly ANOTHER electromagnetic plasma catastrophe not unlike the Babel event, but merely local and tightly constrained rather than vast and global. This seems to be a destructive tool that God uses when He must.
https://www.barrysetterfield.org/Genesis_1-11/part_12_Babel.html#Genesis11_2
https://www.varchive.org/itb/confus.htm
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Maybe if your IQ is in the 95 range. But me and Barry get along fine. Wonderful intelligent man, astute researcher.
Extremely knowledgeable in many fields. I talk with him often. Chronister too.
BTW, you failed to catch the typo that I made here (sorry I am multi-tasking while designing this job for Airbus here at home and I am pretty exhausted mentally from this huge job):
"So now, you MUST ADD these extra 60 years to YOUR date of the birth of TERAH".
But the effect is the same vis a vis the date of the flood.
The point is: Your timeline just got longer by 60 years buddy. And you do not even understand or realize it.
And your 2348 BC flood date dilemma has become worse. Not that you have the slightest idea of what I am talking about.
And as you can see, the correct Vorlage-LXX "ages at birth of son" stretches the flood date FURTHER into the past. A fact that you also do not understand.
Oh and one other thing: both the Masoretic and the LXX have the same (correct) date for the "age at birth of son" for Terah
that being 130 years. A fact which you also do not understand, even though I demonstrated it to you.
Extremely knowledgeable in many fields. I talk with him often. Chronister too.
BTW, you failed to catch the typo that I made here (sorry I am multi-tasking while designing this job for Airbus here at home and I am pretty exhausted mentally from this huge job):
"So now, you MUST ADD these extra 60 years to YOUR date of the birth of TERAH".
But the effect is the same vis a vis the date of the flood.
The point is: Your timeline just got longer by 60 years buddy. And you do not even understand or realize it.
And your 2348 BC flood date dilemma has become worse. Not that you have the slightest idea of what I am talking about.
And as you can see, the correct Vorlage-LXX "ages at birth of son" stretches the flood date FURTHER into the past. A fact that you also do not understand.
Oh and one other thing: both the Masoretic and the LXX have the same (correct) date for the "age at birth of son" for Terah
that being 130 years. A fact which you also do not understand, even though I demonstrated it to you.
Ecc 1:17
And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
Ecc 1:18
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
Evidently Chronister and Barry suffer great grief and sorrow.
I am endued with much less. Others seem greatly, if not utterly unburdened.
1Ti 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
Ecc 1:18
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
Evidently Chronister and Barry suffer great grief and sorrow.
I am endued with much less. Others seem greatly, if not utterly unburdened.
1Ti 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Sorry dear, but that still is a type of date setting. No one knows even if Lord Jesus' future return will be in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, etc.
Watching the SIGNS that Jesus commanded us to watch is what helps us understand how close His future coming is, but that still while not knowing the day or hour. Those SIGNS He gave us to be watching is actually what we should be preaching today. And if you know them as written, you will be more believable than simply predicting "within 18 years" type sayings.
Watching the SIGNS that Jesus commanded us to watch is what helps us understand how close His future coming is, but that still while not knowing the day or hour. Those SIGNS He gave us to be watching is actually what we should be preaching today. And if you know them as written, you will be more believable than simply predicting "within 18 years" type sayings.
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Probably somehow linked to the pattern of the Jubilee year. Christ the Kinsman Redeemer will reign as the greater Adam and redeem what was lost. And the sons of Jacob will once and for all RETURN to obtain the possession of their inheritance, at the time of restoration of all things.
Lev 25:9
‘Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land.
Lev 25:10
‘And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family.
Which is precisely what Peter is talking about here:
Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
But as usual we do not know exactly what cycle or exactly when the clock starts running down.
Lev 25:9
‘Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land.
Lev 25:10
‘And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family.
Which is precisely what Peter is talking about here:
Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
But as usual we do not know exactly what cycle or exactly when the clock starts running down.
Yes.
That's what I'm talking about.
Personally, for the count (so to speak) I don't think a Creation date is necessary to know definitively.
1) We know "how long" it was "FROM _____ UNTO the Messiah the Prince" (Dan9:25)--a precise length of time;
and that He was "CUT OFF" after the CONCLUSION of those 69 Weeks [total] (in 32ad)--the 69 Weeks CONCLUDED on Palm Sunday (when Jesus SAID the words in Lk19:42-44 and DID the Zech9:9 thing--BOTH having to do with "the city / Jerusalem--the very SUBJECT of that time-prophecy); and we know that the Dan9:24-27 is WRITTEN SEQUENTIALLY;
2) We know Hosea 5:14-6:3 says "after TWO days" and "IN the THIRD day" (context pertaining to ISRAEL [and time]);
3) We know that the [future] 70th Week has the same "math" (so to speak) as the first 69 Weeks did;
4) all this, coupled with info we have from both Dan12 (time-refs) and Rev (...and with much study over the years
) leads me to conclude that the final year-set (7 yrs) HAS VERY SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS... [that's all I wanna say about it at this time... but it is quite astounding! One cannot "un-see" it! And many, many, MANY of them, not just one or a few]
(which the *believing remnant* of Israel, in that future time period [following "our Rapture], will be the first to recognize and "understand" ["the WISE *will* understand" Dan12:10]...And it is THEY who will be doing the "INVITING" TO the wedding FEAST / SUPPER [the EARTHLY MK age]--Rev19:9 "BLESSED are those HAVING BEEN INVITED TO the wedding SUPPER of the Lamb" [corresponding with about 8-10 other "BLESSED" passages, on this same matter--ENTRANCE into the EARTHLY MK age (and their not ever "lifting off" of the earth, for it [example: see Lk12:36-37,38,40 and its parallel... etc])])
So my point being, if we know the "time-prophecy" in Dan9:24-27 and how that is factored (and that the passage is WRITTEN SEQUENTIALLY), it isn't really necessary to try to research the "exact date" of Creation (to understand the end-point of this particular time-prophecy, which point is His Second Coming to the earth, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom);
Sure I think having a GENERAL idea of how long ago creation was, is fine; I just don't think it's absolutely necessary (to know what it was PRECISELY) for this particular "time-prophecy" and its end-point... if that makes sense.
That's what I'm talking about.
Personally, for the count (so to speak) I don't think a Creation date is necessary to know definitively.
1) We know "how long" it was "FROM _____ UNTO the Messiah the Prince" (Dan9:25)--a precise length of time;
and that He was "CUT OFF" after the CONCLUSION of those 69 Weeks [total] (in 32ad)--the 69 Weeks CONCLUDED on Palm Sunday (when Jesus SAID the words in Lk19:42-44 and DID the Zech9:9 thing--BOTH having to do with "the city / Jerusalem--the very SUBJECT of that time-prophecy); and we know that the Dan9:24-27 is WRITTEN SEQUENTIALLY;
2) We know Hosea 5:14-6:3 says "after TWO days" and "IN the THIRD day" (context pertaining to ISRAEL [and time]);
3) We know that the [future] 70th Week has the same "math" (so to speak) as the first 69 Weeks did;
4) all this, coupled with info we have from both Dan12 (time-refs) and Rev (...and with much study over the years
) leads me to conclude that the final year-set (7 yrs) HAS VERY SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS... [that's all I wanna say about it at this time... but it is quite astounding! One cannot "un-see" it! And many, many, MANY of them, not just one or a few](which the *believing remnant* of Israel, in that future time period [following "our Rapture], will be the first to recognize and "understand" ["the WISE *will* understand" Dan12:10]...And it is THEY who will be doing the "INVITING" TO the wedding FEAST / SUPPER [the EARTHLY MK age]--Rev19:9 "BLESSED are those HAVING BEEN INVITED TO the wedding SUPPER of the Lamb" [corresponding with about 8-10 other "BLESSED" passages, on this same matter--ENTRANCE into the EARTHLY MK age (and their not ever "lifting off" of the earth, for it [example: see Lk12:36-37,38,40 and its parallel... etc])])
So my point being, if we know the "time-prophecy" in Dan9:24-27 and how that is factored (and that the passage is WRITTEN SEQUENTIALLY), it isn't really necessary to try to research the "exact date" of Creation (to understand the end-point of this particular time-prophecy, which point is His Second Coming to the earth, FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom);
Sure I think having a GENERAL idea of how long ago creation was, is fine; I just don't think it's absolutely necessary (to know what it was PRECISELY) for this particular "time-prophecy" and its end-point... if that makes sense.
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My thoughts on the a/c is first, going along with something Rabbi Cahn said a while back. He said, in original Hebrew, the a/c is referenced as someone of a different composition than total human. He will certainly, like the Bible says,
In Revelation 13:1-10, the Dragon (the devil) empowers the Beast (the Antichrist) to deceive the world. The text says the Antichrist comes from the sea. In the Bible, the sea often represents chaos and instability. That is to say; the Antichrist comes on the scene when there is global bedlam and insecurity — everywhere all of life is being tossed to and fro. He is the mastermind behind a powerful, dominant, destructive political and military system meant to facilitate order and peace.
It seems he will come offering a 'solution' for world chaos but will turn into the tyrant demanding allegiance. Not to agree or disagree w/anyone here, I see this unfolding rapidly. The main point of it all, is we've been advised and need to focus on our serving the Lord while we're here and keep 'In Christ', in faith, in Love and ready.
And btw, this my thinking, not anything written in stone, lol. Peace out.
In Revelation 13:1-10, the Dragon (the devil) empowers the Beast (the Antichrist) to deceive the world. The text says the Antichrist comes from the sea. In the Bible, the sea often represents chaos and instability. That is to say; the Antichrist comes on the scene when there is global bedlam and insecurity — everywhere all of life is being tossed to and fro. He is the mastermind behind a powerful, dominant, destructive political and military system meant to facilitate order and peace.
It seems he will come offering a 'solution' for world chaos but will turn into the tyrant demanding allegiance. Not to agree or disagree w/anyone here, I see this unfolding rapidly. The main point of it all, is we've been advised and need to focus on our serving the Lord while we're here and keep 'In Christ', in faith, in Love and ready.
And btw, this my thinking, not anything written in stone, lol. Peace out.
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You can have the scriptures and still know NOTHING without the Holy Spirit. Only with the Holy Spirit do we even understand the scriptures.
One can preach all day what the scriptures say about the SIGNS and still know NOTHING, if they preach without the Holy Spirit.
WHO will give the understanding of the scriptures concerning the signs of the end times…. the scriptures or the Holy Spirit?
One can preach all day what the scriptures say about the SIGNS and still know NOTHING, if they preach without the Holy Spirit.
WHO will give the understanding of the scriptures concerning the signs of the end times…. the scriptures or the Holy Spirit?
