Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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JayBird

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Yep, I have yet to find one, not on these forums, not in my town. I just drove four hours to Minneapolis and St. Paul and my son's house was next door to a guy prominently flying BLM signs and yet I still have yet to find a single person who supports Harris and is vocal and visible about it. Meanwhile you can't hardly go five minutes on the road without seeing vocal and visible Trump supporters.

That is the point of yard signs and bumper stickers so that people can see your supporters. I'm pretty sure that Minnesota is a swing state especially with Waltz on the ticket.
Well, I suppose if you really want to know if there are any Harris supporters and you're in the Midwest, you could swing over to Chicago. There's thousands of them there this week.

Like I said, she's ahead in the polls, her rallies are packed, and a lot of Walz stuff has gone viral.

But the reality is, none of those things, nor yard signs, nor "people ZNP has met", matter. What matters are votes.
 

ZNP

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No, the point is that they didn't bother to check before issuing their press release. I think they should have figured out how many had since become citizens, then do the press release.

But I suspect that wouldn't get the election deniers all riled up, which was the entire point.
You can't keep this to yourself, demand a retraction.
 

ZNP

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Well, I suppose if you really want to know if there are any Harris supporters and you're in the Midwest, you could swing over to Chicago. There's thousands of them there this week.

Like I said, she's ahead in the polls, her rallies are packed, and a lot of Walz stuff has gone viral.

But the reality is, none of those things, nor yard signs, nor "people ZNP has met", matter. What matters are votes.
The people I met don't matter? That is cold. Yes I expect her to get a lot of votes which is why I'm comparing her "invisible voters" to the "silent majority" -- you only hear from them at elections.

So how come I have to go to the DNC to find a Harris supporter but I can drive in any of four directions N, S, E or W and see lots and lots of Trump supporters?
 

JayBird

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The people I met don't matter? That is cold.
"People ZNP has met" is not how we determine who wins the Presidency.

Yes I expect her to get a lot of votes which is why I'm comparing her "invisible voters" to the "silent majority" -- you only hear from them at elections.
And rallies, and the convention, and any Democratic Party office you choose to visit.

So how come I have to go to the DNC to find a Harris supporter but I can drive in any of four directions N, S, E or W and see lots and lots of Trump supporters?
Can't say without knowing where you live and how you actually look for supporters of different candidates.

I can drive 35-40 minutes and I see tons of Harris supporters and signs in the city nearest us, yet I don't see hardly any Trump stuff. Our neighbors had all sorts of Trump things in their yard in 2016 and 2020, but nothing this year.

Look at the video from one of his recent rallies. Lots of empty seats and people leaving, while he's talking.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rails-empty-seats-rally-pennsylvania-1940933
 

ZNP

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"People ZNP has met" is not how we determine who wins the Presidency.


And rallies, and the convention, and any Democratic Party office you choose to visit.


Can't say without knowing where you live and how you actually look for supporters of different candidates.

I can drive 35-40 minutes and I see tons of Harris supporters and signs in the city nearest us, yet I don't see hardly any Trump stuff. Our neighbors had all sorts of Trump things in their yard in 2016 and 2020, but nothing this year.

Look at the video from one of his recent rallies. Lots of empty seats and people leaving, while he's talking.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rails-empty-seats-rally-pennsylvania-1940933
what city has tons of Harris supporters? I was recently on a zoom call with 35 people in NYC (queens) and none were Harris supporters.
 

JayBird

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what city has tons of Harris supporters?
Wait, are you serious? You're actually skeptical that urban centers have any Harris supporters living in them?

I was recently on a zoom call with 35 people in NYC (queens) and none were Harris supporters.
Again, are you serious? You realize there are about 2 million people in Queens, right? So you're actually saying "I was on a call with 0.00175% of the people in Queens, and none of them were Harris supporters. Therefore Harris supporters are invisible"?

I'm not even sure what to say to that, other than to suggest you might want to think about it a bit more.
 

ZNP

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Wait, are you serious? You're actually skeptical that urban centers have any Harris supporters living in them?


Again, are you serious? You realize there are about 2 million people in Queens, right? So you're actually saying "I was on a call with 0.00175% of the people in Queens, and none of them were Harris supporters. Therefore Harris supporters are invisible"?

I'm not even sure what to say to that, other than to suggest you might want to think about it a bit more.
yes, what city?
 
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It would be natural for those who are close to God to instantly feel a distaste for him if he violated any (or all) of the list of 7 detestable offenses Proverbs 6:16-19 lists.

For those who are not close to the Lord, such acts and characteristics might go completely unnoticed.

As for me, "it is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in princes (politicians)."
 
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cv5

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"People ZNP has met" is not how we determine who wins the Presidency.


And rallies, and the convention, and any Democratic Party office you choose to visit.


Can't say without knowing where you live and how you actually look for supporters of different candidates.

I can drive 35-40 minutes and I see tons of Harris supporters and signs in the city nearest us, yet I don't see hardly any Trump stuff. Our neighbors had all sorts of Trump things in their yard in 2016 and 2020, but nothing this year.

Look at the video from one of his recent rallies. Lots of empty seats and people leaving, while he's talking.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rails-empty-seats-rally-pennsylvania-1940933
Can't vote Democrat, seeing as they are the party that engages in and aids and abets pedophiles and human traffickers, and facilitates cover so that they never get prosecuted.

Where is Epstein's client list?
 

cv5

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The people I met don't matter? That is cold. Yes I expect her to get a lot of votes which is why I'm comparing her "invisible voters" to the "silent majority" -- you only hear from them at elections.

So how come I have to go to the DNC to find a Harris supporter but I can drive in any of four directions N, S, E or W and see lots and lots of Trump supporters?
Yup.....

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cv5

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Since when do Marxists give a hoot about the 1st Amendment?

[RFK Jr] The Democratic Party's censorship of social media was even more of a naked exercise of executive power. This week, a federal judge, Terry Doty, upheld my injunction against President Biden, calling the White House's censorship project, quote, "the most egregious violation of the First Amendment in the history of the United States of America."
 

SonJudgment

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Well RFK Jr. had dropped out of the race and decided to support Trump. He states his three main reasons for supporting Trump is the democrats war on free speech, the blank checks for the war in Ukraine, and the democrats' "war on children". He further elaborates that the democrat party, which RFK used to be part of, has now become quote "the party of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma, big tech, big tech, big ag and big money."
 

SonJudgment

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https://www.cbs19news.com/rfk-jr-dr...cle_082c6fbc-c233-5670-b74f-2be9535dfcf8.html


He said Democrats abandoned democracy. He said the Democratic primary was a sham to protect President Joe Biden. Kennedy criticized Vice President Kamala Harris for not appearing in an interview or having an unscripted discussion for 35 days and said it was "profoundly undemocratic."


Kennedy said after Harris became the presidential candidate, the Democratic National Committee and "its media organs" engineered a surge of popularity for Harris "based upon nothing."

"No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors, and balloons," he said.
 

Nehemiah6

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"No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors, and balloons," he said.
Correct. The Democrats and media sincerely believe that the voters are plain stupid. And they are correct about those who lean Left on the basis of gender, color, or abortion. The realities don't matter/
 

daisyseesthesun

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This is a question for any and all Trump/MAGA supporters. Is there any line he could cross that would cause you to stop supporting him? In other words, is your support for him unconditional? I'm just wondering if you've made up your mind to support him no matter what.
I'm not a MAGA but I often think of this verse when thinking of them "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"