MARK OF.....

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““So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:15-16‬ ‭NIV‬‬

This was written seven hundred years before the messiah came to Jerusalem and said that abive

““Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭9:25-26‬ ‭NIV‬

seven hundred years later

““When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations.

Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:20-22, 24‬ ‭NIV‬‬

The times of the gentiles means the time that God will offer all the nations of gentiles, his kingdom that they rejected

“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭NIV‬‬

When it comes to eschatology, there is hardly anything worse than spiritualizing the mark and then using actual real physical objects and events to illustrate it.

If you are going to believe it literally, then the mark is actually about something in the right hand or forehead. If you are going to spiritualize it, then keep it in the spiritual realm - because, at that point, no actual real physical objects or events belong or should be associated with it.

"Just sayin'..."

OOPS - sorry - that quote really should not have been in my previous post - I really just wanted to address the mark issue.

The natural and the physical are intertwined but the natural typically appears first.

"And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man."

For man, the natural has already appeared. If he/she is alive during the time of the Mark of the Beast they will either bear the image of the Son of His Love, Christ, or the man of sin, the son of perdition.

"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."

Furthermore, spiritual reality is a greater reality than that of the natural. The natural will pass away but many things in the spiritual are eternal and will never pass away.

I wonder if the folks who push the it-must-be-just-like-the-biblical-examples idea have ever considered the possibility of a physical representation of those examples being pushed upon very physical people in a very physical world.

I believe that what is said in the Matthew and Mark accounts of the Olivet Discourse concerning the abomination of desolation is a reference to the actual AoD in 167 B.C. - being used to illustrate what is said in the Luke account.

Well, sure - but, why would anyone need to go from physical to spiritual and then back to physical? If/Once it is spiritual, it is beyond physical - no need to go back...

A spiritual meaning arrived at from a physical illustration does not thereafter need to be represented in the physical.

Perhaps it’s like our journey in the Lord: known in the mind of Christ, physically born, translated from the kingdom of Darkness into the Kingdom of the Son.

Your correct rrcn, no one reads Luke's account they only quote from Matthew.

I guess in the attempt for peace and security.. having an outwardly QR code on your forehead or hand could be proposed.. easily identified by the system.

The techno age definitely makes the beasts system to prevent buying and selling without this mark possible.

Sounds like it is just the opposite.

“the folks who push the it-must-be-just-like-the-biblical-examples idea “

so , people who talk about what the bible says about these subjects in a Bible discussion forum ?

“like-the-biblical-examples idea have ever considered the possibility of a physical representation of those examples being pushed upon very physical people in a very physical world.”

not sure what you mean

“I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:50‬ ‭

“So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man,

so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:42, 44, 49‬ ‭

“But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:23‬ ‭NIV‬‬


“Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.””
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Hi and thanks but.. to get to the mark would not people have already worshiped the beast? Doomed if you just worship the beast. Did He not say before this those whos names are written in the lambs book before the foundation of the world will not worship the beast.

Its not something that we might take by mistake. You know that you know that you know your saying no to GOD and yes to Satan, the antichrist.

It is best if all three accounts are read and studied together.

Current tech even allows for "invisible" marks (but that can be seen with ultraviolet light) that are machine readable.

The Quantum Dot

What was the world patient number for that?

Psalms:125:1
They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.”

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Isaiah 52:1
Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

I remember when first sharing these revelations here that some people didn't believe and would even get mad when I was talking about how we are liken to mountains, and how it is like Moses coming down Mount Sinai all over again when we repented.Or the Word coming down and made flesh again when the Holy Spirit was given to us.And even how it is like New Jerusalem coming down to earth like in the book of revelation.
There was someone asking back then if this revelation came from power on high, and I really didn't understand what he even meant by that.Not even sure if he did either.
If someone who never believed in God became a believer in anyway,that would be considered power on high,right?
Because it came from the spirit of God.Power on high.

A lot of things that I've shared have come from Visions, and dreams from years back when even I didn't have understanding of.But the Holy Spirit reveals while I search.
And those Revelations from back then have opened up doors,and God would put in my heart new things and later I'd find them as truth because the Word testifies of them.

How does it happen though? it came down from the mountain top of Zion, and into the Holy Place.In this temple not made by mans hands.
It started as a thought.Remember the Ark in our head?.The brain is the two cherubim.That's a sign that the Word of God is his Two Witnesses of Revelation which is the water,and the blood.
And the Spirit of the Lord is the pineal gland which sits on the mercy seat.
The pineal gland does what God created it to do.
So when that thought came down from the top of Mount Zion in heavenly Jerusalem,that is like New Jerusalem coming down to earth, or the Word being made flesh and dwelling among us.
That thought started from the head, and went to the heart.

Same thing happens to the unbeliever, only its not the Spirit of the Lord sitting on the mercy seat,but the abomination of desolation sitting on the mercy seat, declaring himself as god.
And he does what God does.The serpents lies comes down from the heavens and into the heart/flesh.
That's why you need to have a renewing of the mind.
Everything starts from a thought and when it reaches the heart that's when actions, or words come out of your mouth.

This is what good food, and honey taste like.Even if some don't believe me,down the road it will come to mind,and they will taste it.

Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

By saying 'push', I mean the folks who will not rest until they are certain they have convinced you that it cannot possibly be an actual physical mark in the hand or forehead (like the plain reading of scripture indicates) - that it can only be "spiritual" in nature - and nothing else...

Assume for the moment all of the "spiritual" meanings people attach to the 'hand' and 'forehead' - in a very physical End Times Scenario on earth - involving very physical people - what if the very physical [evil presence] perpetrated a very physical mark on the very physical people that is/was representative of those "spiritual" meanings ascribed to the 'hand' and 'forehead' - as a measure of allegiance to the very physical [evil presence] - and, as a practical use method of identification for the purpose of buying and selling?

Exactly. With chip technology and computer capabilities, all that the Antichrist has to do is order everyone to take a chip implant in order to buy groceries.

Elon Musk has already been playing with this. His Neuralink connects brains directly to computers with a brain chip. Totalitarian regimes are being established everywhere, even in the UK and USA. The EU had already become totalitarian. So this will be a worldwide totalitarian regime in which Satan is directly involved. Then he will order worldwide idolatry upon pain of death. Those who already worship idols will have no problem with this.