Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Tamarisk

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I'm tempted to vote for Harris/Walz just to help Trump lose. But there are a couple of reasons I wouldn't.

One, and probably the most important, there really are some things they support which I just can't get behind and which I can't support in all good conscience.

Second, I live in a solidly red state and it wouldn't matter if I did vote for Harris, Trump is still going to win here.

Fear that I'm not really a Christian if I did isn't even on the radar. I've been accused of not really being a Christian for any number of reasons: Not agreeing with someone; having my own opinion; not saying "praise the Lord" enough; not endorsing KJVO; calling out Christian nationalism; or for believing that making Jesus Lord of my life is necessary for salvation. Pretty much anything anyone disagrees with can make you a target for the accusation of not really being Christian. It's the big gun that's always dragged out when all else fails.
Trump is going to deport millions of illegals. The American people will protest and project 2025 has been linked directly to trump and we know that he is going to try and use the military on American soil against Americans that protest.

This election is about Continuing the American experiment or ending it and forming a theocracy.

No matter the color of my state or my political views. When America, as we know it is dead. I cannot have it on my conscious that I voted to end the American experiment. The guilt would be unbearable.
 

Jimbone

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disregard the top part just a technical error.

So are you claiming to be the final judge over me? Do you believe yourself to be God?

She’s actually slightly left of center. It would serve trumps campaign better if they would focus on that and how she plans to maintain the status quo.

I would much rather vote for a sensible Republican. However, the party has been Infiltrated by nationalist.


VP Harris says she’s ‘glad’ Trump agreed to a debate
https://apnews.com/video/kamala-har...ona-national-5a38e8f4c5d14db5bd69353536e82f13
This comment didn't age well. Kamala is a full blown communist now and openly states her communist policies that WILL finish the job they started and destroy the US completely while putting the government boot on our necks. "Slightly left of center". How did we get so ignorant of basic facts here in the US? We just believe what the TV tells us? Still? Yea this comment did not age well at all.
 

PennEd

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Trump is going to deport millions of illegals. The American people will protest and project 2025 has been linked directly to trump and we know that he is going to try and use the military on American soil against Americans that protest.

This election is about Continuing the American experiment or ending it and forming a theocracy.

No matter the color of my state or my political views. When America, as we know it is dead. I cannot have it on my conscious that I voted to end the American experiment. The guilt would be unbearable.
No.

You’d rather have on your conscious the mutilation of babies in the womb, and the mutilation of their bodies to change their sex, because one day Johnny was seen playing with a doll.

And why the heck would you oppose sending lawbreakers back to where they came from?

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1825308301677985968
 

Jimbone

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Trump is going to deport millions of illegals. The American people will protest and project 2025 has been linked directly to trump and we know that he is going to try and use the military on American soil against Americans that protest.

This election is about Continuing the American experiment or ending it and forming a theocracy.

No matter the color of my state or my political views. When America, as we know it is dead. I cannot have it on my conscious that I voted to end the American experiment. The guilt would be unbearable.
GOOD they should be deported. Paying for them is killing our country. I WANT Trump to deport them, and it will be Biden's fault for opening it up and telling them to "come". We are supposed to accept paying billions and billions a year for illegal's while we can't even take care of our veterans, or homeless, or mentally ill?

I also agree 1000% with using the military to deal with the "protesters" that are burning down cities like they did last time. Stop ALL the illegal crap. I know you mean this as an attack against Trump, but you couldn't make a better ad "FOR him".
 

Cameron143

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Trump is going to deport millions of illegals. The American people will protest and project 2025 has been linked directly to trump and we know that he is going to try and use the military on American soil against Americans that protest.

This election is about Continuing the American experiment or ending it and forming a theocracy.

No matter the color of my state or my political views. When America, as we know it is dead. I cannot have it on my conscious that I voted to end the American experiment. The guilt would be unbearable.
It's odd...the very thing you profess to be against you give consent to. Hmmm.
 

Smoke

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I wonder, if in an effort to target Americans illegally hiring illegal immigrants, if we should offer a financial reward for any tips leading to an arrest and/or conviction of an employer knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. Similar to Crime Stoppers? Perhaps slap on a minimum 5-year sentence, no possibility of parole, and I think we would drastically reduce illegal immigration in a very cost-effective way.

Of course, this is assuming that both parties want to stop illegal immigration... which ISN'T the case, even if most here feel Republican politicians really want to stop it. They do everything to perpetuate it, especially Democrats.
 

Tamarisk

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This comment didn't age well. Kamala is a full blown communist now and openly states her communist policies that WILL finish the job they started and destroy the US completely while putting the government boot on our necks. "Slightly left of center". How did we get so ignorant of basic facts here in the US? We just believe what the TV tells us? Still? Yea this comment did not age well at all.
Has it been stated that she will use the military on American soil against protesters exercising their right to protest?

When the government uses violence against its citizens to stop them from speaking up against that government then we will stop being the free America that our for fathers envisioned.

Somehow propaganda has infiltrated a portion of the American public and they are so upset about there moral and political concerns that they are willing to end the American experiment.
 

HeIsHere

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I wonder, if in an effort to target Americans illegally hiring illegal immigrants, if we should offer a financial reward for any tips leading to an arrest and/or conviction of an employer knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. Similar to Crime Stoppers? Perhaps slap on a minimum 5-year sentence, no possibility of parole, and I think we would drastically reduce illegal immigration in a very cost-effective way.

Of course, this is assuming that both parties want to stop illegal immigration... which ISN'T the case, even if most here feel Republican politicians really want to stop it. They do everything to perpetuate it, especially Democrats.
There is only one game in town, divide and conquer, and then the oligarchs can usher in their oligarchy.

But one oligarch, feigning to be a populist, has them convinced he is one of them.
 

Cameron143

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Has it been stated that she will use the military on American soil against protesters exercising their right to protest?

When the government uses violence against its citizens to stop them from speaking up against that government then we will stop being the free America that our for fathers envisioned.

Somehow propaganda has infiltrated a portion of the American public and they are so upset about there moral and political concerns that they are willing to end the American experiment.
Your conclusion is what you are guilty of.
 

Cameron143

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There is only one game in town, divide and conquer, and then the oligarchs can usher in their oligarchy.

But one oligarch, feigning to be a populist, has them convinced he is one of them.
If Trump is as you suppose, he would have been protected and never put on trial.
 

Tamarisk

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No.

You’d rather have on your conscious the mutilation of babies in the womb, and the mutilation of their bodies to change their sex, because one day Johnny was seen playing with a doll.

And why the heck would you oppose sending lawbreakers back to where they came from?

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1825308301677985968
My biggest concern is that thier would be a nationwide abortion ban and the people would protest and Trump would order the military to use force against them. Your intelligent, I know you are aware that this would be the end of America.

How do you rationalize it? How can you sleep at night?
 

Cameron143

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Please explain. I have been wrong so many times in my life that I might be wrong now. Please enlighten me.
Your last post...#411...is a good example. Trump sent abortion back to the states, thus guaranteeing it will not go away. Since that time, more abortions, not less have been performed. Your fear is baseless in light of the facts.
Further, Trump will not use military troops against American citizens. He never has and has never said he would. You have listened to propaganda. Further, unlike liberals who have no problem going against the Constitution, conservatives wouldn't allow Trump to break our laws.

You have been brainwashed into believing lies, and dumbed down in your use of critical thinking. You should investigate matters for yourself. Perhaps you might even try getting information from a variety of sources. Just a thought.
 

HeIsHere

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Develop your critical thinking skills.
I will say one more thing, making him the beleaguered national figure creates sympathy, people consolidate, creates a bond, just read these threads.

Seems to be working perfectly.
 

HeIsHere

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Hmmmm...if this were the case you wouldn't be wrong as often as you are.
Sure like the discriminate bombings and Irag etc. etc.,

Its okay you are American comes with the territory.
Up to you to dig much deeper and follow the money.
We disagree so carry on, I see no reason to engage you further on this.
 

Cameron143

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I will say one more thing, making him the beleaguered national figure creates sympathy, people consolidate, creates a bond, just read these threads.

Seems to be working perfectly.
We have a binary choice. One choice continues the demise of the nation. The other choice at least offers the nation a chance. It's not a difficult choice.