Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

That is not the point, the point is if you don't have the full faith and confidence that it is not fraudulent you are undermining the governments authority and credibility. The audit needs to restore the confidence and faith in the process, that is the point.




That is false. There is evidence. There are 2,000 sworn affidavits, there is video evidence. What they have not done is proven it in court. Not the same thing as not having enough evidence to warrant an audit.

When people say they don't have evidence you are spitting in the face of the 2,000 signed affidavits. It is insulting and rather than causing a reconciliation you are causing the split to get worse and for people to trust you less.

That is not the point, the point is if you don't have the full faith and confidence that it is not fraudulent you are undermining the governments authority and credibility. The audit needs to restore the confidence and faith in the process, that is the point.

That is false. There is evidence. There are 2,000 sworn affidavits, there is video evidence.

What they have not done is proven it in court.

Not the same thing as not having enough evidence to warrant an audit.

When people say they don't have evidence you are spitting in the face of the 2,000 signed affidavits. It is insulting and rather than causing a reconciliation you are causing the split to get worse and for people to trust you less.

Who wrote those affidavits before they were signed? I guess they’re pretty much the same “handwriting”.

Again, the audits have been done, multiple times. The 2020 election was probably the most scrutinized in recent US history, and every examination showed the same results. The outcome was legitimate and valid.

You'd think if there was enough fraud to actually flip the outcome, at least one of the audits and investigations would have turned up something.


Examples?


Why not? Why are Trump and Republicans going around making claims they can't prove?


As you've been made aware, multiple audits were conducted and every one showed the same result. The election was legitimate and the outcome valid.


What affidavit do you find so compelling?

To my knowledge the dominion machines have never been audited.

What you call an "audit" is simply a recount, like I said, a joke.

The more you and others keep telling people this has been done the more people don't trust you and know that it hasn't been done.

There is a way to conduct an audit so that you restore confidence. You take the loudest voices calling for it, people like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and you let them observe the process. You can have people from both Biden and Trump's campaign also observe the process. This has never been done.

So MSNBC and CNN can tell us it has but the more they don't do what everyone knows should be done and would resolve the issue the more they look like liars and cheats.

At this point Biden had four years to prove the election was not stolen and never once did he do it. That speaks volumes. It is not just what people do but also what they don't do that reveals what is going on behind the scenes.

To my knowledge the dominion machines have never been audited. I also am not aware of a canvass being done in any but a very few counties, hardly a nationwide job. Nor have I heard of any concerted effort to clean up voter registration rolls in 50 states.

What you call an "audit" is simply a recount, like I said, a joke.

The more you and others keep telling people this has been done the more people don't trust you and know that it hasn't been done.

There is a way to conduct an audit so that you restore confidence. You take the loudest voices calling for it, people like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and you let them observe the process. You can have people from both Biden and Trump's campaign also observe the process. This has never been done. So MSNBC and CNN can tell us it has but the more they don't do what everyone knows should be done and would resolve the issue the more they look like liars and cheats.

At this point Biden had four years to prove the election was not stolen and never once did he do it. That speaks volumes. It is not just what people do but also what they don't do that reveals what is going on behind the scenes.

The @JayBird person defers all judgement to "authorities" and sources of his own choosing. A very effective propaganda strategy when directed at hapless sheeple smooth brain types. But not the wise guys.

Contrarily, I have conducted MY OWN "audit" of the 2020 election. And massive, vast, epic overwhelming election fraud was the rule rather than the exception......in every critical state and county. Dominion machine security breaches were COMMONPLACE, intentional, part of a criminal conspiracy, and easily reproducible in a controlled test environment. And proven as fact beyond all doubt.

The Dem election fraud posse and Bidenista mafia were running hot and heavy at every critical node. Fact.

To my knowledge the dominion machines have never been audited. I also am not aware of a canvass being done in any but a very few counties, hardly a nationwide job. Nor have I heard of any concerted effort to clean up voter registration rolls in 50 states.

What you call an "audit" is simply a recount, like I said, a joke.

The more you and others keep telling people this has been done the more people don't trust you and know that it hasn't been done.

There is a way to conduct an audit so that you restore confidence. You take the loudest voices calling for it, people like Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and you let them observe the process. You can have people from both Biden and Trump's campaign also observe the process. This has never been done. So MSNBC and CNN can tell us it has but the more they don't do what everyone knows should be done and would resolve the issue the more they look like liars and cheats.

At this point Biden had four years to prove the election was not stolen and never once did he do it. That speaks volumes. It is not just what people do but also what they don't do that reveals what is going on behind the scenes.

This is a joke, right?

Did they arrest Ruby and hold her feet to the fire? No.

And they could have arrested DOZENS of these pathetic street-level conspirators if they chose. All caught red handed on video tape. Prima facie evidence galore.

There were ENTIRE WAREHOUSES full of election fraud evidence in Georgia. Did the state police know? Yes. Did they arrest anybody? No. But evidently some folks did get whacked as a warning though.

The list of 2020 election fraud evidence is endless, prolific, vast, and could fill a dozen library shelves.

Take a look at yourself in the shaving mirror fella. There would be the joke.

Rots of ruck and happy landings bub. Believe me you are gonna need it.

Are you aware of what happened? Ruby and her daughter sued Rudy Giuliani for falsely accusing them, and won. Not only that, but they got an apology from RG and a rather large cash award.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/15/giuliani-georgia-election-workers-verdict-00132099

Simply put, Rudy Giuliani was lying.


So if any of those serious (but so far, empty) claims are true, why couldn't Trump and his legal team prove a single bit of it in court? And since Trump was President until Jan 20, 2021, why didn't he do anything about it?

The state audits included audits of the outputs of Dominion machines.


That's simply incorrect. They were full statewide audits, some conducted by firms hand-picked by Republicans, and some states (like GA) had multiple audits.


Again, that's simply not true. The facts are there, multiple states conducted multiple full independent audits and all of them reached the same conclusion that the election and outcome were valid.

If you have specific info showing the audits' results were incorrect, please provide it.


Again, that's just not true. The Trump campaign hired a firm to look for fraud and other problems, and instead the firm ended up disproving the "stolen election" claims.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-hire...ound-2020-fraud-claims-were-all-false-1797178


The facts are there for all to see. Multiple states conducted full audits, multiple firms conducted detailed investigations (including firms hand-picked by the Trump campaign), and no one from the Trump campaign has ever been able to prove any of their claims.

Together, those all paint a very clear picture. The election results were legitimate and valid. If you have info showing otherwise, please present it.

Well first, I'll ask again. Can we not trust the conclusions of firms hired by Trump?

Also, since you apparently are actually saying you conducted a national audit of the 2020 election, can we see your methods?

The question is has the trust in the election been restored? that has not been done, on the contrary the lack of trust is much worse today than when Biden took office.

Did she or anyone else get prosecuted?

No. Because Bidens corrupt DOJ only attacks conservatives.

For what?


FYI, any prosecution would have been from the State of Georgia, which has a Republican Governor and Secretary of State.