What did Christ mean by John 3:17?

Matthew 9:13 ~ I desire mercy, not sacrifice.

We have to be very careful to NOT be in our flesh and make the same judgements that the brother made towards his brother and father when the prodigal son came home in humility and received His Father’s Mercy and Restoration to Sonhood….

It’s life changing to read God’s Word through His eyes of Love.

If caps and font size were to represent tone and volume. It seems as though a lot of this is screaming. Honey will attract more than vinegar. Remember everyone here has different levels of understanding and scriptural education, when you speak to others, keep galatians 5:22-26 in mind.

Very true, and more than that, and who the parable was actually focused on, was the older son, and his judgement towards the younger son. While we always seem to relate with wasteful son than ended up in the troth with the pigs who the father forgives, Jesus was telling this in a place where the Pharisees were looking down their noses at Him and His disciples in judgement. The parable of the prodigal was aimed at them, and while the younger and ridiculously sinful one did get forgiveness from His father, it never mentions if the older son ever does, on purpose. So I'm not sure this was completely about "sonhood" because the older son may not have made it, it never mentions if he ever humbles himself. Just like the Pharisees there listening.

Amazing grace given, amazing there is no works of us involved, yet work as a response to this gift is serving not working to me at least, thanks for your short answers, that say a lot to me at least

Those pharisees ( not fair you see) were, very self-righteous as in Luke 18:9-14 talks of the two that went to the Temple, one justified the other not. I do hope for all, as I see from Peter God hopes for not one person to perish. Thus being the reason it is not all done yet. waiting for all to be under Son's feet according to Hebrews 1
Amazing grace given us to appreciate and be humbled in for me at least
I mean this jealousy, of the religious leaders then got Jesus put on that cross that turned out to be good for us the people to be made new in love and mercy as given us to start with. given now to all, being aware of those that are wanting it for thier own self gain, includes our self. As is why I see Phil 3 to be aware of
Thanks for this information seeing a different view, which those there in charge as Levites took offense to this truth given them. They plotted then to kill Jesus, to get rid of him. only to see him risen as in Col 2 tells us about this truth. Wow, woe is me

Pilgrimshope said:
when you say this

“I love how God’s Mercy triumphs over His Judgment. God greatly desires to save us from our sins and clean us up… what a wonderful Papa God! ”

“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s referring to this law of freedom

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬
“condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven……with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”

speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy;

Jesus shedding his blood is why he can give us this law of mercy for the merciful . Which means our judgement will be merciful wheras if we refuse to be merciful to others then we also can expect this judgement without mercy for our deeds

because all of us have sinned Jesus came to give us a word that we can live by

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s a law governed not by sinlessness but they are all already a sinners we are or we’re all sinners . So in order to save those already guilty of sin you can’t have a death sentance for each sin like the law . You have to govern sinners with a law created from Mercy and grace.

Mercy has triumphed over judgement but we have to receive it as he’s given he said to hear and believe him and we would be saved and it’s also true that he shed his blood those two things go together the word spoken by God and then the bloodshed makes the covenant the word spoken to the people and blood shed for the people who accept the covenant word

If caps and font size were to represent tone and volume. It seems as though a lot of this is screaming.

Honey will attract more than vinegar. Remember everyone here has different levels of understanding and scriptural education, when you speak to others, keep galatians 5:22-26 in mind.

I wouldn't say that mercy trumps judgement. Because mercy can't rob justice. But there definitely is a perfect balance where through the atonement of Christ mercy is given while he pays the demands of justice. As we have all sinned and come short of the glory of God, through the blood of Christ though our robes may be as scarlet they are washed clean through the blood of the lamb. (I know I'm blending verses but they tie together).