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You cast it down by changing focus, by giving attention to truth over what the carnal mind is speaking. It will speak, and the more you focus/ pay attention to it the louder it will get... Romans 8:7 talks about how the carnal mind is hostile to God, and how it does not submit itself to God's law, and that it cant. Praying and fasting is a good way to get built back up in a way that will make that voice less relevant in your life... Also Constantly renewing your mind to the truth of God is a good practice too because you become more grounded in truth over anything, so when the carnal mind starts to speak you will be easily able to identify it, and know how to react accordingly... and one final thing.. don't be ashamed.. this issue is normal, and it is your flesh/ carnal mind that is speaking, not the real you, and it is a growing process.
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Apparently, they did not learn how to cast down wicked imaginations an thoughts quick enough.
Anybody got this person's phone number? We could give them a ring on the tele
Anybody got this person's phone number? We could give them a ring on the tele
I know now what I needed to know and trust myself to know who to take advice from. Thanks for showing me that. tc
This is not a strange phenomenon involving only you, it happens to everyone- it's called "temptation." Satan CAN introduce thoughts to our minds- that's why the Bible uses the phrase "things taught by demons." Who here went to demon school? No, they tempt us in our minds, and if we don't immediately flick them away, we accept the thought, and own it.
"Resist the devil and he will run away from you." He'll be back, but I learned to immediately dismiss the thought, and replace it with another thought. Change the subject in your mind (a happy memory, or a scripture, etc.). Deprive the temptation of time- flick it away the very instant it arrives- like bouncing off of repellent. Satan is not a patient soul, he gives up quickly. You just have to out-stubborn him. Be stubborn and don't accept his thoughts as your thoughts.
"Resist the devil and he will run away from you." He'll be back, but I learned to immediately dismiss the thought, and replace it with another thought. Change the subject in your mind (a happy memory, or a scripture, etc.). Deprive the temptation of time- flick it away the very instant it arrives- like bouncing off of repellent. Satan is not a patient soul, he gives up quickly. You just have to out-stubborn him. Be stubborn and don't accept his thoughts as your thoughts.
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thanks for understanding and not jumping to any conclusions about my faith in Christ. These OCD thoughts were and still are thorn in my side and has made me lose confidence before God by making me feel guilty and ashamed to speak to Him. It has remained with me from the day I became a believer until today. It doesnt seize with replacing thoughts of above or the word because it is a trigger for these intrusive voices.
Please dont get me wrong.. I have been freed from this problem before through prayer..but I had a moment of relapse into sexual sin. I was released from alot of addictions such as, smoking, drugs, alcohol, partying and the occult which I thank God for because I never thought it would ever happen. Even to this day those things cross my mind and am tempted, but am strong in the Lord and know not to give in because it no longer is a weakness of mine. Sexual sin on the other hand is because I give in from time to time and not always. It was my biggest struggle before becoming a believer because I was exposed to porn at very early age and was molested many times as a youngster by family members. It eventually grew into an addiction that became a part of my life because it was my way of coping with the abuse and loneliness. I want nothing more than to be freed from this and to just walk with my God and to please Him with my mind, body, soul and spirit.. but with thoughts like these, I don't know how. I will though look into getting some professional help because I need all the help I can get. Thank you! God bless you!
Please dont get me wrong.. I have been freed from this problem before through prayer..but I had a moment of relapse into sexual sin. I was released from alot of addictions such as, smoking, drugs, alcohol, partying and the occult which I thank God for because I never thought it would ever happen. Even to this day those things cross my mind and am tempted, but am strong in the Lord and know not to give in because it no longer is a weakness of mine. Sexual sin on the other hand is because I give in from time to time and not always. It was my biggest struggle before becoming a believer because I was exposed to porn at very early age and was molested many times as a youngster by family members. It eventually grew into an addiction that became a part of my life because it was my way of coping with the abuse and loneliness. I want nothing more than to be freed from this and to just walk with my God and to please Him with my mind, body, soul and spirit.. but with thoughts like these, I don't know how. I will though look into getting some professional help because I need all the help I can get. Thank you! God bless you!
HEB. 4:12.
For The Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
it's God's Word that can destroy any power that the evil one tries to destroy us with...
READ-READ-READ, MEMORIZE THE HOLY WORD, this will always render him helpless...
For The Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
it's God's Word that can destroy any power that the evil one tries to destroy us with...
READ-READ-READ, MEMORIZE THE HOLY WORD, this will always render him helpless...
Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Here's another bit of wisdom on the subject of disciplining thoughts....keep your mind occupied with good/constructive things....
"The way to chastity is not to struggle directly with incontinent thoughts but to avert your thoughts by some employment... by reading or meditating on other things. For he who is always thinking of chastity will always be thinking of women" - Sir Isaac Newton
Here's another bit of wisdom on the subject of disciplining thoughts....keep your mind occupied with good/constructive things....
"The way to chastity is not to struggle directly with incontinent thoughts but to avert your thoughts by some employment... by reading or meditating on other things. For he who is always thinking of chastity will always be thinking of women" - Sir Isaac Newton
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No, Satan can't read minds but he has been around a very long time to know how to manipulate us. He will even play multiple sides against us at once. For example, I've had him get me into a vulnerable state on one front and then use someone else to say the hurtful thing on another, without them even knowing it. He works through deception (mixing truth and error) rather than overt action most of the time, so he often tries to get us to take responsibility for his evil thoughts. The fact that you don't want them means you aren't in agreement with them. At the worst, you are trying to repent of agreement with them, which means you are worthy of forgiveness.
So what to do about all this? Rebuke the evil spirits. Just proclaim something like "I command all unclean spirits to leave me and my property, and I forbid replacement by other spirits." The last part is because they work in teams to deceive you. Note that I use the word 'proclaim' because God's ways don't work by magic words but by truth - You have to mean it. You can also kick them out from anyone you have real spiritual authority over - wife, kids, students, congregants, pets etc. Also consider covering all the bases, like I kicked one out of the house that then attacked me when I was out weeding the front yard. There might also be a place for rebuking by function, like "I rebuke the spirit of pride" or whatever you are experiencing; this takes spiritual discernment to identify. And you can always ask God for help if you aren't getting there by yourself, but learn to do your part where you can.
Add: Per the last poster's comments, there are behaviors that attract or repel them. The Bible says "Resist the devil and he will flee from you" though that is often easier said than done when they know our weak points. Evil things like ouiji boards, Halloween, fear or pride based media are examples of attractants. Christian music and worship are examples of repellents.
So what to do about all this? Rebuke the evil spirits. Just proclaim something like "I command all unclean spirits to leave me and my property, and I forbid replacement by other spirits." The last part is because they work in teams to deceive you. Note that I use the word 'proclaim' because God's ways don't work by magic words but by truth - You have to mean it. You can also kick them out from anyone you have real spiritual authority over - wife, kids, students, congregants, pets etc. Also consider covering all the bases, like I kicked one out of the house that then attacked me when I was out weeding the front yard. There might also be a place for rebuking by function, like "I rebuke the spirit of pride" or whatever you are experiencing; this takes spiritual discernment to identify. And you can always ask God for help if you aren't getting there by yourself, but learn to do your part where you can.
Add: Per the last poster's comments, there are behaviors that attract or repel them. The Bible says "Resist the devil and he will flee from you" though that is often easier said than done when they know our weak points. Evil things like ouiji boards, Halloween, fear or pride based media are examples of attractants. Christian music and worship are examples of repellents.
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The devil may not be able to read thoughts but he can see actions and hear words. And the more you turn to Christ the more he will fight against you.
But like the old saying goes, what a man thinketh so is he, or so will he become. The best way to fight intrusive thoughts is to constantly fill the stage of your mind with good things. For me, when my thoughts are empty I tend to whistle church hims. Usually starting with primary songs. The tunes are simple and they can help draw the Spirit in. And when the Holy Ghost is present the devil can't stand because that light casts out darkness.
But like the old saying goes, what a man thinketh so is he, or so will he become. The best way to fight intrusive thoughts is to constantly fill the stage of your mind with good things. For me, when my thoughts are empty I tend to whistle church hims. Usually starting with primary songs. The tunes are simple and they can help draw the Spirit in. And when the Holy Ghost is present the devil can't stand because that light casts out darkness.
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