Ukraine the bad guy?

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The implications are obvious. In the tribulation wars, the beheadings can be cause by drones with small charges.
It seems to me to be a highly probable scenario.

Pray for the rapture our blessed hope.

You not scared are ya?



As for "if we don't stop Putin he will keep going" that is an argument for Poland, France and Germany to shoulder the load, not the US.

Exactly. They need to step up since this is all going on in their back yard.

We got our own problems in our back yard to deal with.
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet...

The most interesting revelation to come out of the Russian/Ukrainian war is the corruption of the Russian Orthodox Church. Without Kirill's support it's likely Putin never invades.

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Not surprisingly, Putin's "unification" language sounds very similar to the pre-WW2 German declaration of a "Fatherland" (Vaterland). This is a different side of the same beast (politics mixed with religion) that has ravaged the earth since the fall.
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet...

The most interesting revelation to come out of the Russian/Ukrainian war is the corruption of the Russian Orthodox Church. Without Kirill's support it's likely Putin never invades.

Link to more

Not surprisingly, Putin's "unification" language sounds very similar to the pre-WW2 German declaration of a "Fatherland" (Vaterland). This is a different side of the same beast (politics mixed with religion) that has ravaged the earth since the fall.
Ironic that what the Soviet Union fought so hard against (fascism) is what Putin now embraces. Not that there's a lot of difference between that and communism. They're two sides of the same coin.
 

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Ironic that what the Soviet Union fought so hard against (fascism) is what Putin now embraces. Not that there's a lot of difference between that and communism. They're two sides of the same coin.
Indeed.

We helped a family escape Kiev before the bombing started. They were able to get to the states (near their son) through Poland. (He and his wife were on the team that recently produced the Ukrainian Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek. Previous versions were poor translations from the Russian version.) The Russians have been killing and raping Ukrainians indiscriminately since the war began. Prisoners of war are just show for the cameras.

This is supported by their version of the pope: Patriarch Kirill the 1st. It's really the crusades in a different package.
 

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(He and his wife were on the team that recently produced the Ukrainian Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek. Previous versions were poor translations from the Russian version.)
I included this to show that the work of the Great Harlot is already in the world. She showed up first with the murder of Abel, she continued as Jerusalem, and she is alive in the Harlot churches of the world; always seeking to shed the blood of the true saints. In this case, the Russian Orthodox Church commissioned and promoted the indiscriminate killing of the saints in Ukraine.

"I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement."
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet...

The most interesting revelation to come out of the Russian/Ukrainian war is the corruption of the Russian Orthodox Church. Without Kirill's support it's likely Putin never invades.

Link to more

Not surprisingly, Putin's "unification" language sounds very similar to the pre-WW2 German declaration of a "Fatherland" (Vaterland). This is a different side of the same beast (politics mixed with religion) that has ravaged the earth since the fall.
This turf war is one group of evil mob bosses vs another group of evil mob bosses.
All under the headship of the ultimate mob boss who is also the puppeteer.
He is the one who applauds every needless death and all of the destruction.

To postulate that one party are the good guys......is absurd.

By the way Satan always destroys his own in the end.

And pleading the blood of Jesus and believing in His name is the only way to victory over the evil one. And this has nothing whatsoever to do with a nationalist policy. Or politics. Or politicians.
Because it is an eternal supernatural work of the heart and soul outside of time and anything of this world.

Furthermore when "the lie", the son of perdition, the Satan-man, the evil thing finally appears after the rapture, and THEN is indwelt by Satan, THEN all the kings of the Earth will give him their power. And THEN the mark of the beast is offered. And THEN the persecution of the Saints begins in earnest........those who refused the mark of the beast.

Moral of the story: never ever take sides in any of these earthly wars or politics.
Our primary mandate is to fulfill the great commission.
 
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet...

The most interesting revelation to come out of the Russian/Ukrainian war is the corruption of the Russian Orthodox Church. Without Kirill's support it's likely Putin never invades.

Link to more

Not surprisingly, Putin's "unification" language sounds very similar to the pre-WW2 German declaration of a "Fatherland" (Vaterland). This is a different side of the same beast (politics mixed with religion) that has ravaged the earth since the fall.
Which is why I support western aid to Ukraine. I just don't want us to needlessly accelerate our national debt (US's) and just throw money at Zelensky without some kind of strings. From what I understand, there are strings.
 

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Which is why I support western aid to Ukraine. I just don't want us to needlessly accelerate our national debt (US's) and just throw money at Zelensky without some kind of strings. From what I understand, there are strings.
The unrest in that region is concerning. The United States sees it as an opportunity to damage Putin's ambition erstwhile getting live-fire testing of their military technology. Most of the money is going to the war machine.
 
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I wonder what the deal is tho, I mean it took months for a bill to be passed to find Ukraine, just recently a bill for 61 billion was passed, with biden apologizing to Ukraine for it taking so long.

My question is if the funding is free why has it took so long to pass the bill 🤔
 

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The unrest in that region is concerning. The United States sees it as an opportunity to damage Putin's ambition erstwhile getting live-fire testing of their military technology. Most of the money is going to the war machine.
I said this on another thread and I'll say it here. Sending a to Ukraine sends a message to the world that a dictator doesn't get to just invade a sovereign country with no consequences. It's worth every penny
 

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The thing is; that really doesn't "constitute his victory" at all. Ukraine was never getting those territories back to begin with.

NATO stipulations was always the real battle/negotiation.

Actually; I bet the best chance for Ukraine to get SOME of that territory "back" would be some agreement like "No NATO for at least 20 years, and Ukraine reverts to the Minsk agreement"; in that case, I could see them getting back some territory; but probably not.
 

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I said this on another thread and I'll say it here. Sending a to Ukraine sends a message to the world that a dictator doesn't get to just invade a sovereign country with no consequences. It's worth every penny
This is nothing to do with reality.

The reality is the fat generals who run NATO know that sooner or later Russia and China are set to overtake the US economically. They made a strategic decision to goad Russia into war to weaken Russia to give them a shot at defeating China at a later stage.

They cannot defeat China and Russia together.

They are quite happy to fight Putin to the last Ukrainian boy and girl. Sitting in their situation room across the Atlantic.
 

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I said this on another thread and I'll say it here. Sending a to Ukraine sends a message to the world that a dictator doesn't get to just invade a sovereign country with no consequences. It's worth every penny
I also have said this before that sending Dude653 to fight in Ukraine would also be worth every penny.