Are we the believers in the risen Son secure?

Has God secured us in Son as forever forgiven through Son for us, is that done as said
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

What next is needed? is it to believe God and trust God to work out our own salvation or is it of ourselves?

James 1:15
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

How does lust get conceived to lead us to not get it, the truth of God?

1. Romans 7:8
   But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sinwas dead.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Romans 7:9
   For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
3. Romans 7:11
   For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
4. Romans 7:13
   Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Did Son do what was needed for us the people or not? Is all sin by God Father through Son taken away or not (John 1:29). Might, it be time to turn to God in belief to God it is done for us the people to ask God for the new life offered in the risen Son to teach us new in love and mercy as done by God first through Son on that cross?
All that is left is: To believe God in Son is risen after he took all sin away for us in his one time willing death first. To be born new in God's Spirit and Truth, being given the risen Jesus to lead us in God's Holy Spirit too!
Thank you, Psalm 100:4, 103:12

the ones called and chosen by the Father, justified by the Son, born again of the Holy Spirit are targets of God's eternal love and care. they have passed from death to life, part of God's family and their eternal destiny is in the secure hands of God and they can confident that God will finish the work He started with them.

Philippians 1:6
being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

As for me this has taken a lifetime, here on this earth to not quitting belief to God who simply continues to love us all.
Blows me away as I see God taking sin away by his done work of Son for me and others as well
No longer under Law, now upholding Law as David did in Psalm 1:1-4

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FAQ: Why do conventional Christians insist it is necessary to believe Jesus'
crucified dead body was restored to life?

REPLY: None of the Old Testament sacrifices were restored to life. Their
bodies all remained deceased, and some of them were even used for food.
So it's logical to expect that Jesus' body would remain deceased.

However; one difficulty in that respect is consistency. Every resurrection
recorded in the Bible-- both the New Testament and the Old --restored
people's dead body to life: Jonah's too, which is especially important
because Jesus related his own experiences to Jonah's.

But there is another matter of far more consequence to consider.

● Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered up for the sake of our trespasses, and was
raised up for the sake of declaring us righteous.

The first half of that verse speaks of Isa 53:6

"We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way;
and The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all."

However, though Jesus' crucifixion satisfies retribution for people's sins, the
people remain guilty; similar to when speeders pay a fine for going too fast.
Their payment satisfies retribution for speeding, but the broken law stays on
the books. In other words: a paid fine clears no one of the crime.

● 1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you
are still in your sins.

Were Jesus' body to remain dead, people's sins would remain on the books
as a criminal record with which they would be confronted later on down the
line at Rev 20:11-15. In other words: forgiveness obtained via the death of
a sacrifice is merely a reprieve, viz: a dead sacrifice allows God to forgive
but doesn't allow Him to forget. (Ex 34:6-7)

The second half of Rom 4:25 speaks of righteousness: translated from the
Greek word dikaiosis (dik-ah'-yo-sis) which means acquittal; defined as an
adjudication of innocence due to a lack of sufficient evidence to convict.

In other words; it's by means of Christ's physical resurrection that people
can get themselves cleared of all wrongs so that on the books it can be as
though they've never been anything but 100% innocent.

● Rom 8:33-34 . . Who will file accusation against God’s chosen ones? God is
the one who declares them righteous. Who is he that will condemn? Christ
Jesus is the one who died, yes, rather the one who was raised up from the
dead, who is on the right hand of God, who also pleads for us.

* Were I the Devil, I would make it my mission in life to invalidate Christ's
physical resurrection because by means of its acceptance sinners have the
opportunity to obtain an acquittal. Failure to believe his crucified dead body
was restored to life will result in their loss of the one God-given opportunity
to wipe the books; and thus they'll remain on a downhill path to the wrong
side of things.
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A little hard to grasp, yet I get it, thank you
We are saved by the life, the resurrected life of Jesus, the death cleared the deck for us first, in order to be saved as new, in trust to God's Holy Spirit lead through us, the risen Son
That is what I hear you saying, please let me know, thanks

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● Rom 5:10 . .We shall be saved by his life.

Folks unified with Christ are not only reckoned joint principals with him in his
crucifixion but also joint principals with him in his resurrection. (Rom 6:3-11)

In a nutshell: Jesus went to the cross laden with sin but came back from the
cross completely free of sin. The same goes for folks unified with him, to wit:
they went to the cross laden with sin but came back from the cross
completely free of sin.

Also: Jesus went to the cross with mortality but came back from the cross
possessing immortality. The same goes for folks unified with him, to wit:
they went to the cross with mortality but came back from the cross
possessing immortality.

Seeing as how folks unified with Jesus are completely free of sin, then it
would be futile to put them on trial at the great white throne event depicted
by Rev 20:10-15 because it would be equivalent to putting Jesus on trial.

Also; seeing as how folks unified with Jesus possess immortality, then it
would be futile to toss them into the lake of fire because it would be
equivalent to throwing Jesus in there.

All in all, his life is a very valuable asset because of the benefits he makes
possible for those who possess it.
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It would be saying, hey Jesus your sacrifice for us was and is not good enough!
As I read, no flesh but Son's flesh could ever please God

Hebrews 10:1-10
Authorized (King James) Version


10 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 in burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
James 1:15
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

This topic almost inspires me to start another topic.

How secure is your Salvation? 10% 20% 70% 100%
And then follow it with some text and almost make it like an insurance commercial.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

saved by the risen Life, not the death of Jesus, (reconciled only in the death) saved in the risen Life given to us each from Father, if not got that in you, then you not in, not yet anyways, go to Father personally in prayer, not your priest, friend or anyone else but God and you. And no one can earn their way in ever. Re-read the First (Old) Testament to see what God revealed through out it all before Son came to take it all away (John 1:29) and give new life in his risen Life for all that are sincere in belief, will see and be rested in this done work for them, not able to harm others ever again, ever on purpose

John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.

Any doubt to what is done for us the people through Father and Son, keeps anyone from being established
Just have a modicum of doubt in being reconciled as done for us in Son to us. Either it is done by Son or it is not. If not then there is more forgiveness to get, Jesus' shed blood did or did not cover it all. (Hebrews 10)
yet, his last sacrifice and shedding of blood did that, took it away in his Farther's sight, (not this worlds sight) it is done. So you, you, me and all others can have the new life, right here right now in thanksgiving and praise, while even in troubles. All sin by Son is taken away Psalm 103:12 Either one will believe this 100% or not, those that do not, do not get established in truth from God by Son for them

Isaiah 1:1-9
Authorized (King James) Version


1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth:
for the Lord hath spoken,
I have nourished and brought up children,
and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib:
but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity,
a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters:
they have forsaken the Lord,
they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger,
they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more?
ye will revolt more and more:
the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head
there is no soundness in it;
but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores:
they have not been closed,
neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire:
your land, strangers devour it in your presence,
and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard,
as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers,
as a besieged city.
9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant,
we should have been as Sodom,
and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

Isaiah 7:1-9
Authorized (King James) Version


7 And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it, but could not prevail against it. 2 And it was told the house of David, saying, Syria is confederate with Ephraim. And his heart was moved, and the heart of his people, as the trees of the wood are moved with the wind. 3 Then said the Lord unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shear-jashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller’s field; 4 and say unto him, Take heed, and be quiet; fear not, neither be fainthearted for the two tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with Syria, and of the son of Remaliah. 5 Because Syria, Ephraim, and the son of Remaliah, have taken evil counsel against thee, saying, 6 Let us go up against Judah, and vex it, and let us make a breach therein for us, and set a king in the midst of it, even the son of Tabeal: 7 thus saith the Lord God, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass. 8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people. 9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah’s son.
If ye will not believe, surely ye shall not be established.

Jesus came to earth to fulfill the Law and Prophets that prophesied about his coming to take away sin from his Father's sight for us. Matthew 5:17
Then we have verse 18, no the Law is not taken away, the Law stays in place for the unbelievers. The believers are free from under Law to uphold Law as good and these willingly abide in God's Law of Love and mercy to all.

Then he does all he does here on earth in love and mercy. Boldly tells the truth to those that went against him, the Pharisees.
Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
So Jesus completed the entire law perfectly, got crucified willingly, the turns out it was for us all to turn to Father in belief to love and have mercy, and not be a tyrant as man has been that, not God ever as is interpreted as has in the Old Testament, Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God does not desire for anyone to perish, so beleive God in Son as risen for you to be new in God's Spirit and Truth and see self as dead to the flesh self, to be alive too the risen Son in Father for you to love and do as called by God, nt the religious people
Mark 7:11
But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
Read that one in context?

Healed the others in need as we are called to do that for each in not harming others over Law as is done today and has harmed many a people still. Accusing and excusing each other, Not good, at least for me, I need God to lead not me or anyone else but God.

Then when Jesus got taken to the cross, he goes willingly in pain, much pain. And even says forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
Amazing grace y'all, so give the same, yet be aware when and how, there is a time for everything as in the book of Ecclesiastes.
Be wise as serpents and remain harmless as doves Matthew 10:16-20) trusting God to do whatever work is needed to get done through you, (Luke 21:14-15)

Understand
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Is the Law and Prophets fulfilled in Jesus? You decide, I have and am elated over adversities now as I wasn't before seeing this truth from God to me, not to y'all too.

Fulfill Matthew 5:17, fulfilled John 19:30, is risen where new life is given from Father to us the kids in beleif to this does work of Son.
Then one might see Hebrews 9:14-17
Hoping and trusting Father to reveal this truth or not as God knows when. and when not to yet.

How does lust concieve y'all?

1. Romans 7:8
   But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sinwas dead.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Romans 7:9
   For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
3. Romans 7:11
   For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
4. Romans 7:13
   Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
5. Romans 7:10
   And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Even though death was still from Adam the first to Moses, without Law. Yet Law was there in the Hearts of man, to either listen and do or not. Joseph listened, and did right, is the king of dreams, who saved the first chosen in that famine that happened before ever being put under Law. Then the slavery came in on them. As Abraham was never put under Law, and was counted for righteousness from God, by belief to God, Faith is belief to God. That has gotten messed up to the point that we the people are trying to do what God has already proven, man is not perfect and needs God, yet God will not enter anyone until one is willing to listen to God over it all in themselves to do right and forsake evil to anyone.
read the story of Joseph and the troubles he went through and still put God first in his life. Amazing to stand in belief to God the creator of all, no matter what troubles happen to you

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I was thoroughly catechized by my childhood religion, but not once did
someone tell me that belief in Christ not only makes it possible to share in
his crucifixion, but also possible to be credited with his righteousness.

In other words: were Jesus subpoenaed to appear before the great white
throne depicted by Rev 20:11-15, he would walk away acquitted because
Jesus never once committed a personal sin of his own to answer for. (John
8:29, 2Cor 5:21, Heb 4:15, 1Pet 2:22)

In point of fact, it was impossible for Jesus to commit personal sins of his
own.

● 1John 3:9 . . No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed
abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Now; I haven't a clue how God pulls this off, but according to Rom 5:12-21
He has a way to credit folks with His son's sinless perfection so that they
too can walk away from the great white throne acquitted.

There are men going about identifying as women so they can compete with
women in women's sports. Of course they are not really women, i.e. they're
artificial women, viz: fakes. Well; in a manner of speaking, folks unified with
Christ have a God-given right to identify with His son as 100% perfectly
sinless creatures though on a personal level they are definitely not so.

● 1John 1:8-10 . . If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we
have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

NOTE: The pronouns "we" & "ourselves" & "us" include the epistle's author
as those who would be fooling themselves were they to claim personal
perfection; plus he would be insinuating that God is a person of marginal
integrity who cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
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Yet, the people, me included, have and do sin and continue why?
Romans 7:10
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Now I see, under Law under the curse of the Law, the is used to bring out sin in the people, has caused much mischief. The Law itself is perfect, it is the first born flesh and blood that is not able to be perfect ever. Romans 8:3
Therefore, ask Father and trust to hear truth over the errors of this world we are in presently
Be born new in Father and Son for you too, thank you

You right, those in belief to God learn to leave sin, unrighteousness behind them, through trust to God it is done for them by Son as risen to them, at least me
God trains each person, personally in his love and mercy given them, wow, Thank you lord. (Sealed, accepted and forgiven) Eph 1:13,6,7
If you are one that claims to believe and if you not growing new and learning new in agreement to God, and have not or are not leaving stuff you know that is not good for you behind you. Then maybe ask God to be sealed by God to see this truth and be new in humility, not any pride as have been in past, when you ever thought you got it.
Ephesians 1:13
in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

1. Philippians 1:6
   being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Philippians 1:14
   and many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.

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FAQ: Does 1John 3:9 apply to Christians born of God per John 1:12-13 and
John 3:3-8?

REPLY: No.

FAQ: Why not?

REPLY: Because Christ is God's one and only paternal child. (John 1:14,
John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, and 1John 4:9)

FAQ: Where do born-again Christians fit in?

REPLY: Born-again Christians sometimes like to think of themselves as God's
paternal children but they aren't even close. No; they are God's handiwork,
i.e. creations. (2Cor 5:17, Eph 2:10, Eph 2:24, Gal 6:15, Col 3:10)

And whereas Jesus is God's natural child-- so to speak --born-again Christians
are adopted. (Rom 8:15, Gal 4:5, Eph 1:5)

* There are important differences between adopted kids and foster kids.

The latter have no inheritance rights, they have no right to be known by a
foster father's name, they have no right to a foster father's love, they have
no right to address their foster father with a filial vocative like dad, pop, or
papa; and they have no right to a place in his genealogy.

Plus, foster care is temporary. Older kids eventually age out of the foster
system and the State ceases to assist foster fathers to continue providing for
them. At 18 the older kids are legally adults in my country, and the
responsibility for their providence is upon themselves. Ouch!

Adopted kids' circumstances are so, so much better. They are legally just as
much an adopted father's children as his natural children. Ergo: adopted kids
have inheritance rights, they have a right to be known by their adopted
father's name, they have a right to their adopted father's love, they have a
right to address their adopted father by a filial vocative, and they have a
right to a place in his genealogy.

Plus, adoption is permanent. Older kids don't age out of their adopted homes
so they always have a family support base to fall back on should their
circumstances become difficult. (cf. Luke 15:11-24)
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