Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

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MerSee

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NASA claims there are upwards of 20,000 satellites floating around Earth’s upper-atmosphere sending us radio, television, GPS, and taking pictures of the planet. All these supposed satellite pictures, however, are admittedly “composite images, edited in photoshop!” They claim to receive “ribbons of imagery” from satellites which must then be spliced together to create composite images of the Earth, all of which are clearly CGI and not photographs. If Earth were truly a ball with 20,000 satellites orbiting, it would be a simple matter to mount a camera and take some real photographs. The fact that no real satellite photographs of the supposed ball Earth exist in favor of NASA’s “ribbons of composite CG imagery,” is further proof we are not being told the truth.
 

Sculpt

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No - I don't have to prove anything - I merely inferred from your statement that - if your statement is true (if the stated coverage is real) - then, one of the three things in the list I posted must be true.


Nor do I need to...

I know of no one on earth who has ever proven the existence of "outer space" satellites - how about you prove that they actually exist.

And - because some "authority" says so is not proof.

Also - not-a-true-photograph "artist-rendering"/"cartoon" images of "satellites" are not proof.

Just because they [have been made to] appear to exist does not mean it is real-and-true.
@GaryA @NightTwister

OK, can you please do one thing then? Can you tell us WHY you think/say there are no satellites?

I can post, "I just came back from Illinois." And you reply, "There is no Illinois." Okay... why do you say there's no Illinois?

At the very least, can you tell us why are you saying there are no satellites orbiting earth?

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@GaryA @NightTwister

OK, can you please do one thing then? Can you tell us WHY you think/say there are no satellites?

I can post, "I just came back from Illinois." And you reply, "There is no Illinois." Okay... why do you say there's no Illinois?

At the very least, can you tell us why are you saying there are no satellites orbiting earth?

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I never said there are no satellites. I said quite the contrary.
 
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so...
Help me out here flat earthers ,
Does the International Space Station exist?
 

Gideon300

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NASA claims there are upwards of 20,000 satellites floating around Earth’s upper-atmosphere sending us radio, television, GPS, and taking pictures of the planet. All these supposed satellite pictures, however, are admittedly “composite images, edited in photoshop!” They claim to receive “ribbons of imagery” from satellites which must then be spliced together to create composite images of the Earth, all of which are clearly CGI and not photographs. If Earth were truly a ball with 20,000 satellites orbiting, it would be a simple matter to mount a camera and take some real photographs. The fact that no real satellite photographs of the supposed ball Earth exist in favor of NASA’s “ribbons of composite CG imagery,” is further proof we are not being told the truth.
Perhaps you can explain how to take a single photo of a massive object from a short distance. Try getting a giant beach ball and take a photo from a foot away. How much will you see? Once more, you display your ignorance. I guess logic and reason were hiding behind the door when you were born.
 

MerSee

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Perhaps you can explain how to take a single photo of a massive object from a short distance. Try getting a giant beach ball and take a photo from a foot away. How much will you see? Once more, you display your ignorance. I guess logic and reason were hiding behind the door when you were born.
ISS Hoax - The International Fake Station?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EHY31rAd75VC
 

Sculpt

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I never said there are no satellites. I said quite the contrary.
Sorry, NT, I was just asking GaryA the question. But I @'d you to include you, cause I figure you'd want to know why Gary doesn't think satellites can be in orbit.
 

NightTwister

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Sorry, NT, I was just asking GaryA the question. But I @'d you to include you, cause I figure you'd want to know why Gary doesn't think satellites can be in orbit.
Maybe he can tell us about Sasquatches that he's met too.
 

Dino246

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Your actions prove there are no satellites. :D
Your statement equally proves you are stupid.

And to the rest of you, don’t bother posting a ‘dislike’ until you understand my assertion.
 
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mersee,
do you believe the U.S.A. landed men on the moon?

Also, mersee are you an A.I. bot?
 

Romans34

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Perhaps you can explain how to take a single photo of a massive object from a short distance. Try getting a giant beach ball and take a photo from a foot away. How much will you see? Once more, you display your ignorance. I guess logic and reason were hiding behind the door when you were born.
That giant beach ball would only be about 4.2 inches in diameter at one foot away. Modern cameras can take pictures of most any object at a distance of 2.8 times the diameter of the object. The geosynchronous satellites are said to be at least 35780 km (22232 miles) from the earth's surface. The earth's equator is estimated to be 40,075 km (24,901 mi). If you do the simple math, they (satellites) are in orbit above the earth at about 2.8 times the diameter of the earth. So it shouldn't be difficult to take a picture of the entire earth from a geostationary satellite.
 

Sculpt

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That giant beach ball would only be about 4.2 inches in diameter at one foot away. Modern cameras can take pictures of most any object at a distance of 2.8 times the diameter of the object. The geosynchronous satellites are said to be at least 35780 km (22232 miles) from the earth's surface. The earth's equator is estimated to be 40,075 km (24,901 mi). If you do the simple math, they (satellites) are in orbit above the earth at about 2.8 times the diameter of the earth. So it shouldn't be difficult to take a picture of the entire earth from a geostationary satellite.
"Modern cameras can take pictures of most any object at a distance of 2.8 times the diameter of the object." What's your source for this information? Have a link?

The cost of building and placing a satellite in orbit is about $200 million. There is no financial nor military purpose in an obviously undetailed shot of the entire earth... specifically nothing that can't be duplicated by multiple composite shots of more useful resolution/detail. As it has no practical use, nobody is going to spend $200 mil to do it... except politicians wasting money.

Through Al Gore's pushing, over decades there was a satellite launched into a far enough orbit (93,606,069 miles) to take pictures of earth, as it does today. It's called DSCOVR. It has some other scientific purposes, but Trump tried to close it. You can see them here: https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/ And learn about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory
 

Romans34

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"Modern cameras can take pictures of most any object at a distance of 2.8 times the diameter of the object." What's your source for this information? Have a link?
My source is the distance between earth and the satellites and the circumference of the earth at the equator (probably on an hundred difference websites, but I believe I used Nasa's), pi (3.1415927), and a little math (22232 satellite distance / 7926 earth diameter = 2.8).

The cost of building and placing a satellite in orbit is about $200 million. There is no financial nor military purpose in an obviously undetailed shot of the entire earth... specifically nothing that can't be duplicated by multiple composite shots of more useful resolution/detail. As it has no practical use, nobody is going to spend $200 mil to do it... except politicians wasting money.
According to this NOAA website, "Since 1975, NOAA's Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellites (GOES) have provided continuous imagery and data on atmospheric conditions and solar activity (space weather)." I wouldn't make sense NOT to put a camera on a $200 million project. Besides, they could shut up all the Flat Earthers . . . if they would only take the shot and publish it, instead of making up all the excuses why they cannot. Only, there's one problem . . . they really cannot do it (because nothing that far away exists to do it)!
Through Al Gore's pushing, over decades there was a satellite launched into a far enough orbit (93,606,069 miles) to take pictures of earth, as it does today. It's called DSCOVR.
How did they do this while telling us they couldn't figure out how to get past the Van Allen belts? This distance is almost four times the distance to the moon.
 

Romans34

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My source is the distance between earth and the satellites and the circumference of the earth at the equator (probably on an hundred difference websites, but I believe I used Nasa's), pi (3.1415927), and a little math (22232 satellite distance / 7926 earth diameter = 2.8).


According to this NOAA website, "Since 1975, NOAA's Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellites (GOES) have provided continuous imagery and data on atmospheric conditions and solar activity (space weather)." I wouldn't make sense NOT to put a camera on a $200 million project. Besides, they could shut up all the Flat Earthers . . . if they would only take the shot and publish it, instead of making up all the excuses why they cannot. Only, there's one problem . . . they really cannot do it (because nothing that far away exists to do it)!

How did they do this while telling us they couldn't figure out how to get past the Van Allen belts? This distance is almost four times the distance to the moon.
In other words, if the Van Allen Probes came along in 2012, how did we figure out how to do this between 1975 and 2012.