Tonight's Presidential Debate

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ZNP

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You laugh but that is pretty scary to think the best version of these senators, vice presidents and presidents is when they have dementia.
 

Nehemiah6

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If the Congress deems acts perpetrated by the President is a high crime or misdemeanors, they can impeach him.
And yet the feckless RINOs failed to do this to Biden over and over again. Why go after Mayorkas, when Biden is directly responsible for Mayorkas' criminality? So no matter what one may say about the Democrats, without the support of the RINOs they could not have succeeded in keeping Biden in power.

Not once did anyone show any leadership, and bring all senators and congressmen together and say: "It is us Republicans who have allowed the Democrats to control the agenda. But we are paid to do what the principles and platform of the Republican party demand. And we have failed in our duty to the Constitution and the USA. So either we should all resign, or we should all stand together and impeach Biden immediately."

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"Republicans believe in liberty, economic prosperity, preserving American values and traditions, and restoring the American dream for every citizen of this great nation. As a party, we support policies that seek to achieve those goals.

Our platform is centered on stimulating economic growth for all Americans, protecting constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms, ensuring the integrity of our elections, and maintaining our national security. We are working to preserve America's greatness for our children and grandchildren.

The Republican Party's legacy -- we were originally founded in 1854 for the purpose of ending slavery -- compels us to patriotically defend America's values. As the left attempts to destroy what makes America great, the Republican Party is standing in the breach to defend our nation and way of life...
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And yet the feckless RINOs failed to do this to Biden over and over again. Why go after Mayorkas, when Biden is directly responsible for Mayorkas' criminality? So no matter what one may say about the Democrats, without the support of the RINOs they could not have succeeded in keeping Biden in power.

Not once did anyone show any leadership, and bring all senators and congressmen together and say: "It is us Republicans who have allowed the Democrats to control the agenda. But we are paid to do what the principles and platform of the Republican party demand. And we have failed in our duty to the Constitution and the USA. So either we should all resign, or we should all stand together and impeach Biden immediately."

OUR PLATFORM
"Republicans believe in liberty, economic prosperity, preserving American values and traditions, and restoring the American dream for every citizen of this great nation. As a party, we support policies that seek to achieve those goals.

Our platform is centered on stimulating economic growth for all Americans, protecting constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms, ensuring the integrity of our elections, and maintaining our national security. We are working to preserve America's greatness for our children and grandchildren.

The Republican Party's legacy -- we were originally founded in 1854 for the purpose of ending slavery -- compels us to patriotically defend America's values. As the left attempts to destroy what makes America great, the Republican Party is standing in the breach to defend our nation and way of life...
About Our Party | GOP
Although I certainly think Biden should’ve been impeached several times over, I think we can give the GOP the benefit of the doubt, as we all know it would be a fruitless endeavor.

Yes it would draw attention to Biden’s treachery, but most would see it as purely political, and it would have absolutely zero percent chance of success in the Democrat controlled Senate.
 

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To be honest the DOJ has put themselves in a position where the SCOTUS had no other choice than to grant immunity. The charges against Trump could possibly carry prison time and a president incarcerated is economically and logistically disastrous. It cannot be done and if Trump had been convicted, the DOJ would have a very big problem on their hands.

So what to do about a DOJ which is unable to foresee the consequences of its actions? Luckily the SCOTUS has aided the DOJ in their helplessness, but also the ruling potentially could lead to consequences that the sitting president could take advantage of.
 

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They allowed Biden to get an omnibus spending bill, they have increased the debt so that interest on the debt is now the biggest line item on the budget. Congressmen like Jim Jordan and Senators like Rand Paul are powerless to get information about the NIH, and Merrick Garland because Congress has not frozen their budgets so they ignore them.

If the house is controlled by the Republicans why are they acting like it is controlled by the Democrats?
Actually, I'm not much of a fan of either party. Tremendous amount of wasteful spending, content to live on borrowed time.

I'm a Republican because that party is, for the most part, pro-life. I will not vote for anyone, regardless of party, that promotes and enables the killing of the unborn.
 

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Although I certainly think Biden should’ve been impeached several times over, I think we can give the GOP the benefit of the doubt, as we all know it would be a fruitless endeavor.

Yes it would draw attention to Biden’s treachery, but most would see it as purely political, and it would have absolutely zero percent chance of success in the Democrat controlled Senate.
The odds would be less than zero.
 

Nehemiah6

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The charges against Trump could possibly carry prison time...
Are you still under Leftist delusion? "Prison" time for nothing burgers? It's a wonder that the DOJ was not severely rebuked by SCOTUS for their weaponization of the entire justice system.

The DAs and prosecutors even said plainly that "We want to GET TRUMP". Not because he had committed any crimes, but because Biden could not fight him fair and square in a free and fair election.

Every "lawfare" case was totally bogus, so how come you did not see that? Or did you choose not to see that? Just like all those on the Left, who ignored everything about all this insanity from day one?

BREAKING: Supreme Court Ruling Destroys Deep State Lawfare Against Trump, Says Top Lawyer
BREAKING: Supreme Court Ruling Destroys Deep State Lawfare Against Trump, Says Top Lawyer (infowars.com)
 

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Are you still under Leftist delusion? "Prison" time for nothing burgers? It's a wonder that the DOJ was not severely rebuked by SCOTUS for their weaponization of the entire justice system.

The DAs and prosecutors even said plainly that "We want to GET TRUMP". Not because he had committed any crimes, but because Biden could not fight him fair and square in a free and fair election.

Every "lawfare" case was totally bogus, so how come you did not see that? Or did you choose not to see that? Just like all those on the Left, who ignored everything about all this insanity from day one?

BREAKING: Supreme Court Ruling Destroys Deep State Lawfare Against Trump, Says Top Lawyer
BREAKING: Supreme Court Ruling Destroys Deep State Lawfare Against Trump, Says Top Lawyer (infowars.com)
I’m saying that the courts could convict, which they have already done, and they could have sent him to prison wasn’t it for the SCOTUS ruling. Furthermore he could have been convicted in the other cases and gotten prison sentences, wasn’t it for the ruling.

Please don’t just start screaming “lefty” when someone says something you fail to comprehend.
 

Nehemiah6

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I’m saying that the courts could convict, which they have already done, and they could have sent him to prison wasn’t it for the SCOTUS ruling. Furthermore he could have been convicted in the other cases and gotten prison sentences, wasn’t it for the ruling.
Except that this was ALL BOGUS. How come you did not carefully see what was being done. Cases were "manufactured" out of thin air. How would you like a bogus case to be brought against you simply because you are running as a candidate for some political position and your opponent cannot beat you fair and square?

What you should now do is carefully examine all the bogus charges, the DAs , the prosecutors, the corrupt Leftist judges, the lying media which never presented the truth, and all the other enemies of true justice.
 

Susanna

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Except that this was ALL BOGUS. How come you did not carefully see what was being done. Cases were "manufactured" out of thin air. How would you like a bogus case to be brought against you simply because you are running as a candidate for some political position and your opponent cannot beat you fair and square?

What you should now do is carefully examine all the bogus charges, the DAs , the prosecutors, the corrupt Leftist judges, the lying media which never presented the truth, and all the other enemies of true justice.
It has nothing to say whether they are bogus or not. They happened and would go on happening regardless of your opinion. Please start putting your mind to use before you lash out.
 

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I’m saying that the courts could convict, which they have already done, and they could have sent him to prison wasn’t it for the SCOTUS ruling. Furthermore he could have been convicted in the other cases and gotten prison sentences, wasn’t it for the ruling.

Please don’t just start screaming “lefty” when someone says something you fail to comprehend.
he could yet be sentenced to prison. SCOTUS didn't rule it can never happen. that's what makes, especially, the NY case so complicated, now.

his lawyers have made a motion, essentially, for the jury verdict to be set aside since the judge allowed testimony concerning his acts as the POTUS along with the hush money business. it all has to be combed through now and i'm thinking this is why sentencing has been delayed?
 

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So if they control the house they have the power of the purse and no spending bills can be passed without them and they can freeze the money from all the various government agencies if they do not provide them with whatever they ask.
doesn't Schumer have a tremendous amount of power over the flow of bills in and out of the House?

for that matter, even the wording of them?
 

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he could yet be sentenced to prison. SCOTUS didn't rule it can never happen. that's what makes, especially, the NY case so complicated, now.

his lawyers have made a motion, essentially, for the jury verdict to be set aside since the judge allowed testimony concerning his acts as the POTUS along with the hush money business. it all has to be combed through now and i'm thinking this is why sentencing has been delayed?
I don’t think he would have done prison time anyway. The Secret Service would have had to be his cell mates then. My point is that there would be an uproar over a conviction that normally should lead to prison time and then Trump not being incarcerated. In my opinion the SCOTUS ruling is a mitigation of the processes that the DOJ has started. They should have been more careful about this.
 

ZNP

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doesn't Schumer have a tremendous amount of power over the flow of bills in and out of the House?

for that matter, even the wording of them?
The house can stop the funding, not forever, but long enough to cause some real pain, independent of the Senate.
 

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They allowed Biden to get an omnibus spending bill, they have increased the debt so that interest on the debt is now the biggest line item on the budget. Congressmen like Jim Jordan and Senators like Rand Paul are powerless to get information about the NIH, and Merrick Garland because Congress has not frozen their budgets so they ignore them.

If the house is controlled by the Republicans why are they acting like it is controlled by the Democrats?
$109 billion in one day. Oooops
 

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Catch Up

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Veteran journalist Carl Bernstein reports that Biden suffered 15-20 incidents of alleged mental decline over the past year, and that there was an incident when he was "stiff almost like rigor-mortis."
 

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The CNN poll posted on air showed that 67% of debate watchers felt that Trump won the debate compared to 33% who believe Biden won the debate.
It wasn't just Biden's inability to complete a sentence that made him look so bad. If you watched his face, he looked just like a kid who was caught with his hand in the cookie jar!...........................
 

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Veteran journalist Carl Bernstein reports that Biden suffered 15-20 incidents of alleged mental decline over the past year, and that there was an incident when he was "stiff almost like rigor-mortis."
I think the biggest problem is the guys who are wearing these Biden masks are not allowed to go off script so they can't respond to what Trump or others are saying on the fly. It works great when you are doing a state of the union address, but during the debate it was a fiasco. Obviously MSNBC and others know how bad the situation is with the real Biden but they thought the CIA would be able to do a much better job and that is why they were so upset.