Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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iamsoandso

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Who was he speaking to when he made the comments?

Your doing the same thing without realizing you even are but Trump specifically went to the Hood as the press called it when he should have went to that city and invited every race of people if he thinks we are all the same. Take a magnifying glass and look real close at the photos of the crowd of Jan. 6th,,look real hard and see how many Hispanics, Blacks,orientals ect. are in that crowd of protestors carrying the stars and bars.
 

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I wonder why he didn’t think that they were coming here to replaced white people?IMO he’s letting us know that he feels that black people are lower than white people.
The area I live at Farmers would not be able to do 70% of what they get done without Latinos. The Caucasian sons and daughters can't wait to move to the city [go to college and move but not all], most farm areas you do not see Black People anywhere. It's typically old generation Caucasian brothers still operating family farms. Without Latino workers these people would be forced into a new way of life.

And once you get to know them they are good humble people wanting to support their families. Probably 100 of them work on the farms in my area. Running irrigation, combines, tractors, weeding, general labor, mechanic work, really good hard workers. I know several who ended up marrying the farmers daughter and have families. Every year the families of old Caucasian farmers seem to keep getting bigger.

I know for a fact they aren't stealing anyone's job because most people raised in the position to do them keep leaving. And I guess they could be Black People's jobs but you never see Black People asking for work around these parts.

So, good question.
 

iamsoandso

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It's as though they've done it for so long they for the life of them cant figure out what they're even doing,lol
 

Cameron143

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Your doing the same thing without realizing you even are but Trump specifically went to the Hood as the press called it when he should have went to that city and invited every race of people if he thinks we are all the same. Take a magnifying glass and look real close at the photos of the crowd of Jan. 6th,,look real hard and see how many Hispanics, Blacks,orientals ect. are in that crowd of protestors carrying the stars and bars.
By asking a question I'm doing what in your opinion? Trump went to a traditionally black area and specifically spoke to a black audience. He did so so purposefully, and addressed a particular issue with a particular race. I'm surprised people haven't come out and said he was racially appropriated the voting process.
Trump is not a racist. Under his administration, all races of people were helped. The Democrat party is the party of racism. At the time of the Civil War there were no Republicans who owned slaves. Democrats were for segregation and separate but equal. It was Republicans who pushed through civil rights legislation. It was Democrats who opposed integration. It was Democrats who set up abortion clinics to kill black unborn babies. It was Democrats who elected former Ku Klux Klan leaders to the Senate. It is Democrats who continue to undereducate black inner city kids. It is Democrats who continue to push government programs to destroy the family.
No doubt there is racism still exists in America. But the racists are still the same people they have always been. I like that Trump had the audacity to broaden the base and take the message of prosperity for all to places the Republican party has abandoned and the Democrat party has brought great harm to.
If you want to cry racism go ahead. But actually call out the real racists while you are at it.
 

iamsoandso

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By asking a question I'm doing what in your opinion? Trump went to a traditionally black area and specifically spoke to a black audience. He did so so purposefully, and addressed a particular issue with a particular race. I'm surprised people haven't come out and said he was racially appropriated the voting process.
Trump is not a racist. Under his administration, all races of people were helped. The Democrat party is the party of racism. At the time of the Civil War there were no Republicans who owned slaves. Democrats were for segregation and separate but equal. It was Republicans who pushed through civil rights legislation. It was Democrats who opposed integration. It was Democrats who set up abortion clinics to kill black unborn babies. It was Democrats who elected former Ku Klux Klan leaders to the Senate. It is Democrats who continue to undereducate black inner city kids. It is Democrats who continue to push government programs to destroy the family.
No doubt there is racism still exists in America. But the racists are still the same people they have always been. I like that Trump had the audacity to broaden the base and take the message of prosperity for all to places the Republican party has abandoned and the Democrat party has brought great harm to.
If you want to cry racism go ahead. But actually call out the real racists while you are at it.
I already did there was not one Black,Hispanic ect.(Minority) holding the confederate flag in their hand in any of the Jan. 6 photos. If you look at the photos real close you would realize they were not even there.
 

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I already did there was not one Black,Hispanic ect.(Minority) holding the confederate flag in their hand in any of the Jan. 6 photos. If you look at the photos real close you would realize they were not even there.
I am sure there was a least one, com'on now!!! :D
 

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I already did there was not one Black,Hispanic ect.(Minority) holding the confederate flag in their hand in any of the Jan. 6 photos. If you look at the photos real close you would realize they were not even there.
What does that have to do with the question I posed?
 

Cameron143

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You insinuate that someone is a racist by going to a particular race of people and addressing an issue that affects them. If he were a racist, don't you think men like Tim Scott, Ben Carson, and Thomas Sowell would know? Do you think men of integrity would associate with a racist?
 

iamsoandso

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What does that have to do with the question I posed?
And see that's what I was thinking of your post because I'm talking about the present Republican/MAGA and your response is about the 1860's. The real issue is how and by whom in 2024 and it's the Republicans/MAGA that's doing it not the folks who were alive in 1860.
 

Cameron143

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And see that's what I was thinking of your post because I'm talking about the present Republican/MAGA and your response is about the 1860's. The real issue is how and by whom in 2024 and it's the Republicans/MAGA that's doing it not the folks who were alive in 1860.
So MAGA is a racist organization?
And I showed you the history of racism in this country from the Civil War to its current iterations today. Hardly just in the past.
 

ZNP

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Even a billionaire could not afford to spend $500 million on a presidential campaign where you may or may not get elected.

Also, imagine you were applying for a job and it costs you money for a resume, a suit, etc. The president is paid $400,000 a year, why would you spend $500 million to get a job that pays you $400k a year for four years? You are not even going to make 1% of the money you spend on the campaign.

Also, no one can possibly have all the skills and know how for this. There are thousands of jobs to appoint if you are elected. Once elected you would need to make about 10-20 appointments per day up until inauguration and I suspect the briefings that go on probably take up half your day every day of that time (by half a day I don't mean 4 hours).

My point is the candidate is simply the tip of the spear. This is why as soon as someone wants to be a third party candidate it is a joke. If you don't have the machine behind you then you really have no chance.

Which brings me to the real point, the US election is two very big machines running everything. It is like going to McDonalds and you have a choice between the Big Mac and the Quarter pounder with cheese.

Now you may rightly feel that this election is far more acrimonious than that would be, and that is true. It isn't because of the machine, it is because within the political system there are people who have a conscience and are taking a stand for Jesus. If that were not true you wouldn't see any of this. Jesus said that a house divided cannot stand and Satan cannot cast out Satan. We saw that, RINOs could not cast out Democrats because they are all part of the same block of cheese. Any success we are seeing at exposing the corruption in the US government is because you have people standing against all odds for righteousness. Because of that Satan is no longer able to maintain the illusion of democracy. But pulling away the curtain from the little man behind the curtain is not the same thing as defeating the wicked witch of the West.
 

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I wonder why he didn’t think that they were coming here to replaced white people?IMO he’s letting us know that he feels that black people are lower than white people.
"Black Jobs" was awkward phrasing for sure; but the bottom line is that illegal labor displaces legal workers- and some of those workers are black. In politics they're always looking at demographics- Unemployment among black Americans has been higher than the overall average in recent decades.
 

ZNP

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"Black Jobs" was awkward phrasing for sure; but the bottom line is that illegal labor displaces legal workers- and some of those workers are black. In politics they're always looking at demographics- Unemployment among black Americans has been higher than the overall average in recent decades.
Maybe it was his adenoids, you know when he was trying to say "Big League" and it came out "Bigly"?

Maybe what he was saying is that the illegal immigrants are all taking the "black ops jobs", you know the advance team to the invading force to overthrow America.
 

iamsoandso

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So MAGA is a racist organization?

They are in Texas that's for sure and if their not that way in the rest of the US Trump sure needs to blow his dog whistle and call them off. And not just the law(or I would hope not all of them) but especially the younger(20's-40ish) in the smaller populated counties. They quite often drive around in their trucks with confederate flags,Trump flags ect. in the holes in the truck beds on the weekends looking for minorities or Democrats to harass. To them as soon as Trump wins they are going to round us all up and ship us all out of Texas.
 

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They are in Texas that's for sure and if their not that way in the rest of the US Trump sure needs to blow his dog whistle and call them off. And not just the law(or I would hope not all of them) but especially the younger(20's-40ish) in the smaller populated counties. They quite often drive around in their trucks with confederate flags,Trump flags ect. in the holes in the truck beds on the weekends looking for minorities or Democrats to harass. To them as soon as Trump wins they are going to round us all up and ship us all out of Texas.
Appreciate the discussion.
 
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I wonder why he didn’t think that they were coming here to replaced white people?IMO he’s letting us know that he feels that black people are lower than white people.
consider that white people already believe the great replacement is real and trump has the white vote however, black americans voted against him in 2016 and 2020 soo it would make sense that he speaking directly to black voters hence the language of what he said….

if all you hear in that quote is “racism” then you’ve missed the point completely and will vote for your own demise…
 
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Be careful with the guy your speaking with he just referred to Hispanics/Latinos as "cockroaches" in another thread(guess he thinks Trump's going to declare open season on minorities as soon as he wins)...
the people being funneled into the country are cockroaches, the countries they are coming from are hundreds of years behind the civilized world, we all are a part of the communities we live in, these people haven’t gotten it right in hundreds of years because they reject the values that we especially hold fast to as christians and they reject our God , God has set his face against every nation that has rejected him.

i call them cockroaches because of how they live, because of the false gods they serve and if we actually cared about the success of our nation we wouldn’t force people to assimilate into our belief system and our morals when it’s obvious they don’t belong here

facts… if you see that as being racist then you are part of the problem
 
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They are in Texas that's for sure and if their not that way in the rest of the US Trump sure needs to blow his dog whistle and call them off. And not just the law(or I would hope not all of them) but especially the younger(20's-40ish) in the smaller populated counties. They quite often drive around in their trucks with confederate flags,Trump flags ect. in the holes in the truck beds on the weekends looking for minorities or Democrats to harass. To them as soon as Trump wins they are going to round us all up and ship us all out of Texas.
if your voting for the demonic system that replaced celebration of the day that jesus christ rose from the dead with sodomite day then your part of the cancer thst needs to be removed from our society.