The hatred of Jews

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HeIsHere

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I've had to report this post. I did not harrass, I don't appreciate being threatened for the crime of having an opinion, and I most certainly am not a "hyper nut". Perhaps you should re-evaluate your own post against your three accusations?
That is absolutely right. You have never once harassed.

On the other hand we get call Jew haters and anti Semites for stating facts.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I've had to report this post. I did not harrass, I don't appreciate being threatened for the crime of having an opinion, and I most certainly am not a "hyper nut". Perhaps you should re-evaluate your own post against your three accusations?

"Yes, I admit it, I have Jewish roots." I think that's a very clear statement. She certainly doesn't need me to defend her. No one threatened you, chill out. When someone gives a solid reason like she did and yet you come back with "You don't seem to be very concerned about the hatred of these "Jews"? Could it be 'cause your claim has really nothing to do with hatred of Israelis (or "Jews"), and everything to do with politics, as has become a tell-tale mark of Communists these past few years?" Sounds harassing to me. I can have THAT opinion. That is my opinion of your comment. She told you her stand and why. Respect it. Report whatever you want, it's nonsense.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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That is absolutely right. You have never once harassed.

On the other hand we get call Jew haters and anti Semites for stating facts.

You're not stating facts. That's the issue. And yes, there are comments here that have been anti-Semitic. No one stopped for a minute to think there may be actual Jewish people here. smh It's a hot issue in the country right now. But it looks like voters will right it. America doesn't stand with Hamas, they stand with Israel. It was good to see Bowman fail. Now Biden better get off the pot and pick a side.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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So if Benjamin Netanyahu stands trial for war crimes, will you concede that America does not support Israel committing genocide and war crimes? Or will that be a case of America turning against Israel? See, I don't think you can even stick to a constant definition of who or what Israel is, let alone decide what supporting Israel looks like.

I highly doubt he will stand trial for war crimes. I keep going back to my comment I've made the entire time. If your idea is to commit genocide, why would you inform people you were coming? Why would you tell them to get to safety? Why would you tell them where it's safe to go? Why bother if your intent is genocide?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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If that's the case, why are you keen to shut down this thread? Do you even hear yourself? :p

Ummm, I never asked for the thread to be shut down. And yes, I do hear myself, but I don't listen. :oops: Which is why I'm still here in this thread.
 

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What about the hatred of the Israelis who are vocally opposed to the State of Israel's war crimes? Apparently, they're being coerced and threatened by roaming gangs not to speak out. Some democracy indeed - sounds just like Putin's Russia, and little different to the Nazi brown shirts of WW2.

You don't seem to be very concerned about the hatred of these "Jews"? Could it be 'cause your claim has really nothing to do with hatred of Israelis (or "Jews"), and everything to do with politics, as has become a tell-tale mark of Communists these past few years?
What you are saying here is not accurate, to put it very mildly. My concerns are about Jews in general, not only what has happened since 10/7/23. This is not the first time I have raised my voice for the Jews.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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i agree with you except that these people are not the hebrews

Let's you and I take a walk back in time. God puts Abe in a deep sleep and He makes and everlasting, unconditional covenant with Abe and his descendants. He makes a land promise, He even expands the borders. He names the borders. Now, if this land promise was to Christ, pretty sure He would know what the borders are. So where do you go from this starting point? No one has yet explained why everlasting means till the NT.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Looking to shut the thread down now so many have exposed there is no hatred toward Jews, just a few of the old guard crying "hatred" because so many have gotten wise to this tactic for attempting to whitewash the war crimes of the fascist state of Israel?

Why is no one talking about the war crimes of Hamas, who started this whole thing in the first place? Where do they get held accountable for decapitating bodies? Where do they get held accountable for shooting women in their genitals after they are done raping them?! Where do they get held accountable for slaughtering children in the beds in front of their parents, and parents in front of children??? Where do they get held accountable for taking an infant hostage? Or taking any hostages, but certainly children and woman, elderly women and raping and abusing them?? They broke a ceasefire and now they demand one? smh They started this mess. You can get to Israels crimes later. But first we deal with Hamas and any Palestinian that stands with them.
 

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Why is Hamas not being criticized for using civilians as human shields? Why are they hiding like little bunnies in their tunnels while the civilians take the heat? Why don’t other Islamic countries want to have anything to do with Hamas, except from Iran? Why don’t they take in refugees from Palestine?
 

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Agree, they do not want to know the other side or the full story.
Same narrative over and over again, "Israel born in a day" hearkening back always to the Old Testament, how does that even make sense.
The Old Testament was fulfilled. Period!
seriously? Is there really anything more you have to say? If so start another thread. It has always been that the person who starts a thread can close it. Why are you whining about this now?
 

Mem

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It bugs me when someone repeats an adopted error. In this case, quoting Trump as using the term "bigly" which the media made fun of and Trump felt it better to let ride than to appear petty by explaining, "I didn't say that...I have stuffy adenoids and said, 'big league.' No worries, I'm petty enough to make the difference! :cool:

Anyway... that there doesn't seem to be exception to those claiming to 'actually' be 'true' Israel, i.e. there's the replacement Christians, black Hebrew Israelites, and I'd heard of a theory that considered Buddha to actually be one of Abraham's sons, I think, Buz or something I can't recall exactly atm, and of course, the Palestinians and Islamists in general. Israel very much seems to be a Cinderella story wherein she will be found to fit the glass slipper.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It bugs me when someone repeats an adopted error. In this case, quoting Trump as using the term "bigly" which the media made fun of and Trump felt it better to let ride than to appear petty by explaining, "I didn't say that...I have stuffy adenoids and said, 'big league.' No worries, I'm petty enough to make the difference! :cool:
Actually, thank you for pointing that out! I don't know that! I know he now uses it as humor himself but I did not know that story!

Anyway... that there doesn't seem to be exception to those claiming to 'actually' be 'true' Israel, i.e. there's the replacement Christians, black Hebrew Israelites, and I'd heard of a theory that considered Buddha to actually be one of Abraham's sons, I think, Buz or something I can't recall exactly atm, and of course, the Palestinians and Islamists in general. Israel very much seems to be a Cinderella story wherein she will be found to fit the glass slipper.
It annoys me considering 6 million people were killed horribly for being Jews. There was no doubt as to who was a Jew. They slapped a yellow star on you and you lost all your rights, likely your life. They were Jews, there were signs everywhere about what they could do and where they could go, they were sealed into the ghettos. No one had to ask what a Jew was, you knew. They were the ones in the ghettos with the yellow star. The Holocaust took 6 million of their innocent lives. But the moment they stepped back onto their homeland, Israel, they stopped being Jews. Somebody explain that please.
 

Mem

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Actually, thank you for pointing that out! I don't know that! I know he now uses it as humor himself but I did not know that story!
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. I'd have to ask Trump, directly, whether that were the truth or not but, yeah, my ear heard, "big league' and so when 'bigly' began to trend, I was like, ":rolleyes:".

I had earlier noted the distinction between Envy and Jealousy, and I sure that the phenomenon stems from a root of envy, that is wishing that one had what (rightly) belonged to another. Jealousy, on the other hand, is begrudging the possession of a thing that (rightly) belongs to you. And this is what Paul(?), scripture at any rate, spoke toward in declaring God's jealous nature and, relative to the Jews, a desire to 'provoke them to jealousy.'
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. I'd have to ask Trump, directly, whether that were the truth or not but, yeah, my ear heard, "big league' and so when 'bigly' began to trend, I was like, ":rolleyes:".

I had earlier noted the distinction between Envy and Jealousy, and I sure that the phenomenon stems from a root of envy, that is wishing that one had what (rightly) belonged to another. Jealousy, on the other hand, is begrudging the possession of a thing that (rightly) belongs to you. And this is what Paul(?), scripture at any rate, spoke toward in declaring God's jealous nature and, relative to the Jews, a desire to 'provoke them to jealousy.'

Yes, Romans 11 makes a point of that. They strayed away from they were chosen for. And they have been punished for it. When I think of God's mercy, I think of the Jews. That is the most beautiful picture of mercy, along side the cross. We cannot understand it, we can only thank Him for it.
 

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Actually, thank you for pointing that out! I don't know that! I know he now uses it as humor himself but I did not know that story!
It is supposed to be hard to say big league, if it was easy everyone would say it right, that's what makes it the big league. (Adapted from A League of their own)
 
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Let's you and I take a walk back in time. God puts Abe in a deep sleep and He makes and everlasting, unconditional covenant with Abe and his descendants. He makes a land promise, He even expands the borders. He names the borders. Now, if this land promise was to Christ, pretty sure He would know what the borders are. So where do you go from this starting point? No one has yet explained why everlasting means till the NT.
im not sure what you mean. i don’t want to respond blindly,
 

Yahshua

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It is what the Scripture says. Israel is the nation that was born in a day. There is no denying that. It is a part of history
Here's what scripture says:

Isaiah 66:7-12 {brackets mine}
7 “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a manchild.

{Prophecy of Messiah's birth. Fulfilled.}


8 Who hath heard such a thing? Who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.


{ZION! It's a prophecy of ZION and the birth of ZION'S CHILDREN; those who are like The MESSIAH. The premise of the Son of Yah being born first is established in verse 7 and then the prophecy of the Children of Yah being born afterward (mirroring Paul's 1 Corinthians 15:23 - "each in their own order: Christ the first fruits, and then those at His coming."). This is about the resurrection/transformation when believers become like The Messiah. It's the same moment in Ezekiel 37. Messiah is called "Firstborn from the DEAD"}


9 Shall I bring to birth and not cease to bring forth?” saith the Lord. “Shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb?” saith thy God.

10 “Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her; rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her;

11 that ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.

12 For thus saith the Lord, “Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream; then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.


Question: Has "The State of Israel" been at peace...at all...since 1948?


"A national spiritual regeneration by turning to Jesus is not a biblical prerequisite for a major movement of Jewish people returning to and possessing the Land of Israel. ...(Zech.12:10; 13:1). Likewise,... (Ezek. 36:24). The passage continues,... (Ezek. 36:25–26). Note that the spiritual regeneration of Israel follows the restoration of the Jewish people to the Land. Thus regathered, Israel will, as a nation, turn in faith toward the promised Messiah."
All scripture must harmonize not contradict otherwise it makes The Almighty a liar.

Ezekiel 36:23-28 [Brackets Mine}
23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

24 “‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land.

{^Verse 24^ is a summary statement. The detailed order of operation follows it:}

25 {1} I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.

26 {2} I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

27 {3} And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

28 {4} Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God.


Not only is this typical language structure but the order of operation perfectly harmonizes with the word given in Deuteronomy 30:1-5 and Romans 11:23. The Almighty Yah is not a liar.

The dry bones represent Israel in exile, without hope. The process of the bones coming together with sinew, flesh, and skin refers to the successive waves of returning Jews before Israel’s rebirth.
Here is my post summarizing Ezekiel 33 to 39.

Ezekiel 38 describes the people living in peace in "unwalled villages".
Ezekiel 39 describes Gog of Magog looking to invade before being destroyed by The Almighty.
Ezekiel 40-48 describes the eternal temple with the presence of Almighty there.

Question 2: Clearly, Ezekiel 33-39 summarizes a prophetic order of events, ending with the Almighty's presence on Earth. If Ezekiel 37 is the birth of the State of Israel in stages, where in the summary is the resurrection of the dead?

Third, the Bible predicts Israel would return to her Land through persecution. The Hebrew Scripture says of Israel, “For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers” (Jer. 16:15).
Where does it say through persecution?

The Palestinians are Arabs. And they are not innocent.
I'm not sure if this is meant as a derogatory statement or what...

There's a reason why DNA testing is illegal in Israel without approval. John Hopkins genome study proves that we'll over 90% of modern Israelis have no genetic ties to ancient Israelites while also proving that 80% of Palestinians have genetic ties to ancient Israelites.

https://veteranstoday.com/2022/01/31/new-genome-research-reveals-the-true-ancient-israelites/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNNf8jkY/

...and this would harmonize with both recorded history and biblical prophecy. Recorded history proves that the poor of the land never left (because they couldn't afford to) but converted when the Islamic Caliphate took over the land. Biblical prophecy says that the punishment was that many would be killed, many would be scattered to the nations, but all would forget who they are and worship false gods. Islam is a false religion (Apollyon). Even Jeremiah 13 you reference says again that they would serve false gods.


Israel has a right to live on their own land and defend it.
Even if we assume for argument that they're legitimately descendants. No. if one is evicted from their home for failing to follow the contract grandkids don't get to kill current occupants to reclaim the forfeited property. That's a reality of temporal/secular law. Why is it so difficult to understand that a heavenly contract with terms to follow is even more strict?

David was promised the throne but refused to kill Saul at multiple opportunities because it was out of order. Israel is supposed to be in exile until Messiah comes. Devout Rabbis who study the scriptures know this. Secular Zionists/Nationalists who do not study the scriptures or even their own religion do not.


They sit on 1% of the land in the ME. Palestinians as they are known today are nothing more than a political invention to try to push Israel into the sea.
This is a video of former prime minister, Golda Meir, speaking on Palestine:
"I'm a Palestinian. From [19]21 to [19]48, I carried a Palestinian passport."
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNjCXKFv/

Picture of Jewish people in Germany posing under a sign saying "Palestine transit camp" before migrating to Palestine.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNjCT2Q1/

You have been propagandized terribly. Satan is deceiving you. It's not Palestine that is the invention it's the notion that it never existed. They're even pushing to rewrite American history books to erase the name.

Whatever crime that state accuses others of chances are they are the first perpetrators of the crime.

They chant it themselves.
"The Likud Party, in their 1977 political platform, denied any possibility of a two-state solution and called for only Israeli sovereignty 'between the Sea and the Jordan'.”

The State of Israel chanted it first. Whatever crime that state accuses others of...

Israel has tried for peace at least 4 times and every single time they were turned down. Even Bill Clinton said the Palestinians were impossible to please.
It's because it's Palestinian land, not the land of European religious converts. Imagine me coming into your home, claiming most of it, offering you less than half (while I continue to take more behind your back), and then having the gall to claim you're being unreasonable because you won't take the deal.

By the way, all while they continued attacking Gaza, Israel was taking more land from the West Bank.
 
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The Jews in the “state of israel” are canaanites or edomites, however you want to look at it, either way they are right where they are supposed to be to receive their judgement when God cleanses the land to prepare it for Jacob to dwell in
 

Yahshua

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That will happen only after the Second Coming of Christ. So why do you even ask this question?
Because there's an order of operation, Nehemiah, as written. The Almighty shows His sovereignty by describing what will happen in order. There is no Israel in any form without The Messiah. The kingdom is established under the King ("and the government will be upon His shoulders."; "Thy kingdom come...").

I ask the question to prove that the modern state of Israel isn't a fulfillment of prophecy regarding restored Israel.

"study to show thyself approved. rightfully dividing the word of truth."