Do i have to Keep the Sabbath or was it only for Israel?

Yes. That is true. Which further testifies to the fact that the old Jewish law was only for the Jews— not the gentiles. There needed to be a law for ALL PEOPLE and that is what the New Testament law of Christ is—a law for all of His followers, both Jews and gentiles. Called the law of Faith. Romans 3:27.
Sabbath keeping and “tithing” are not part of Christ’s law. That old law was “nailed to the cross@. Colossians 2:14.

The !0 Commandments are for all people worldwide. They existed before written on stone. All men will be judged by the 10 commandments. Heb4:9 says there remains the keeping of a sabbath[lords day].
We are not under the Mosaic commandments , but rather Jesus Commands now.

Hebrews 4

Easy-to-Read Version



4 And we still have the promise that God gave those people. That promise is that we can enter his place of rest. So we should be very careful that none of you fails to get that promise. 2 Yes, the good news about it was told to us just as it was to them. But the message they heard did not help them. They heard it but did not accept it with faith. 3 Only we who believe it are able to enter God’s place of rest. As God said,
“I was angry and made a promise:
‘They will never enter my place of rest.’”
But God’s work was finished from the time he made the world. 4 Yes, somewhere in the Scriptures he talked about the seventh day of the week. He said, “So on the seventh day God rested from all his work.”[a] 5 But in the Scripture above God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.”
6 So the opportunity is still there for some to enter and enjoy God’s rest. But those who first heard the good news about it did not enter, because they did not obey. 7 So God planned another special day. It is called “today.” He spoke about that day through David a long time later using the words we quoted before:
“If you hear God’s voice today,
don’t be stubborn.”
8 We know that Joshua did not lead the people into the place of rest that God promised. We know this because God spoke later about another day for rest. 9 This shows that the seventh-day rest for God’s people is still to come. 10 God rested after he finished his work. So everyone who enters God’s place of rest will also have rest from their own work just as God did. 11 So let us try as hard as we can to enter God’s place of rest. We must try hard so that none of us will be lost by following the example of those who refused to obey God.
12 God’s word[c] is alive and working. It is sharper than the sharpest sword and cuts all the way into us. It cuts deep to the place where the soul and the spirit are joined. God’s word cuts to the center of our joints and our bones. It judges the thoughts and feelings in our hearts. 13 Nothing in all the world can be hidden from God. He can clearly see all things. Everything is open before him. And to him we must explain the way we have lived.
Jesus Christ Is Our High Priest
14 We have a great high priest who has gone to live with God in heaven. He is Jesus the Son of God. So let us continue to express our faith in him. 15 Jesus, our high priest, is able to understand our weaknesses. When Jesus lived on earth, he was tempted in every way. He was tempted in the same ways we are tempted, but he never sinned. 16 With Jesus as our high priest, we can feel free to come before God’s throne where there is grace. There we receive mercy and kindness to help us when we need it.
Footnotes

1. Hebrews 4:4 Quote from Gen. 2:2.
2. Hebrews 4:9 seventh-day rest Literally, “Sabbath rest,” meaning a sharing in the rest God began after he created the world.
3. Hebrews 4:12 God’s word God’s teachings and commands.

Exodus 20:1-4

Darby Translation



20 And God spoke all these words, saying,
2 I am Jehovah thy God, who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.


Deuteronomy 5

Darby Translation



5 And Moses called to all Israel, and said to them, Hear, Israel, the statutes and the ordinances that I speak in your ears this day, and learn them, and keep them to do them.
2 Jehovah our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 Not with our fathers did Jehovah make this covenant, but with us, [even] us, those [who are] here alive all of us this day.
4 Face to face on the mountain from the midst of the fire Jehovah spoke with you
5 (I stood between Jehovah and you at that time, to declare to you the word of Jehovah; for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up to the mountain), saying,
6 I am Jehovah thy God who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
7 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

No Christians there!!!!!!! clearly written on tablets for Israel

Sorry...The translation is not accurate, try this instead;
Sabbath Rest (ligonier.org)

In speaking of this rest (Heb. 3:18; 4:1, 3-6, 8) the author consistently used the same word for “rest” (katapausis). Suddenly, in speaking about the “rest” that remains for the people of God, he uses a different word (sabbatismos, used only here in the NT) meaning specifically a Sabbath rest. In the context of his teaching, this refers fundamentally to the “Sabbath rest” which is found in Christ (“Come . . . I will give you rest,” Matt. 11:28-30). Thus we are to “strive to enter that rest” (Heb. 4:11).

9 there doth remain, then, a sabbatic rest to the people of God,

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4520/kjv/tr/0-1/
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange....e-have-for-defining-sabbatismos-in-hebrews-49

Yes, the law was our teacher. But it is what was learned from it, not the specifics that are significant. Therefore the Sabbath can be any time you set apart from work. For example, it can be Wednesday because that happens to be your day off, or an hour you set apart each day.

I must say there are some good replies to this thread right off the bat. The Sabbath was the first issue I ever examined in the Bible for myself, and having been raised in a strict Sabbath-keeping church, the verses that changed my mind are all here between the two of you.

In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from God's law, but in order to free us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is the way to believe in what Jesus spent his ministry teaching by word and by example and in what he accomplished through the cross (Acts 21:20) while returning to the lawlessness that he gave himself to redeem us from is the way to reject everything that he accomplished through his ministry and through the cross. If Gentiles had no obligation to obey God's law, then Gentiles would have no need for the Gospel of the Kingdom, no need to refrain from doing what it reveals to be sin, no need for Jesus to have given himself to redeem us from all lawlessness, and no need of salvation, so the position that Jesus came to die for everyone contradicts the position that God's law is only for the Jews. God's law was given to Israel in order to equip them to be a light and a blessing to the nations by turning the nations from their wickedness and teaching them to obey in accordance with the promise and with the Gospel of the Kingdom. In Isaiah 56, keeping the Sabbath is also for Gentiles. It is contradictory for Gentiles to want to follow Christ while arguing that following God's law is only for Jews.

The law against committing murder is an example of a law that is for our own good while a sign that announced that someone had been changed with committing murder that was nailed to their cross is an example of a handwritten ordinance that was against them. The purpose of the brutality of crucifixion was to act as a deterrent, so the Romans wanted to make sure that everyone knew why someone was being crucified, which is why they would nail a sign to their cross that listed the charges that were against them, such as the charge that was against Jesus that he was the King of the Jews (Matthew 27:37). This fits perfectly with the list of the sins that we have committed being nailed to Christ's cross and with him dying in our place to pay th penalty for our sins, but has nothing to do with nailing the laws themselves to the cross. The Romans didn't need to legislate new laws to replace the old ones every time they crucified someone.

Colossians 2:16 leaves room for two possibilities:

1.) The Colossians were not keeping God's feasts, they were being judged by Jews because they were not, and Paul was encouraging them not to let anyone judge them for not keeping them.

2.) The Colossians were keeping God's feasts, they were being judged by pagans because they were keeping them, and Paul was encouraging them not to let anyone judge them for keeping them.

In Colossians 2:16-23, Paul described the people who were judging the Colossians as promoting human teachings and precepts, self-made religion, asceticism, and severity to the body, which means that they were being judged by pagans and that the second scenario is the case. Those promoting asceticism and severity to the body would not have been judging people for refraining from celebrating feasts.

Nowhere did Christ say anything about giving us a new day to honor. In Mark 7:6-9, Jesus criticized the Pharisee as being hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God in order to establish their own traditions, so there is nothing wrong with someone following their own tradition of honoring Sunday in addition to obeying God's command to keep the 7th day holy, but they should not hypocritically set aside God's commands in order to establish their own traditions. Someone trying to honor the resurrection by disobeying God's law would be like a husband trying to honor his wife by committing adultery.

Days start in the evening for Jews, which means that the 1st day of the week starts on Saturday night at sundown. Jews have a longstanding tradition of meeting at the close of the Sabbath for Havdalah to mark the transition to the work week, so Paul did not speak from morning until midnight, but rather he spoke from sundown until midnight and then left on Sunday morning to travel. So this does not establish that they met on Sunday morning, and even if they had, then it does not establish that this was the start of a new tradition, and even if it was, the it does not establish that they were hypocritically doing that instead of obeying God's command to keep the 7th day holy, and even if they were doing that, it does not establish that we should follow their example of sin.

All throughout the Bible, God wanted His people to repent and to return to obedience to His law, and even Christ began his ministry with that Gospel message, so it would be absurd to interpret Galatians 5:4 as Paul warning us against obeying God and saying that we will be cut off from Christ if we follow Christ. Moreover, in Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, and he chose the way of faith by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith and this is what it means to be under grace, not the way to fall from it. It would again be absurd to interpret that as him wanting God to be gracious to him by teaching him how to fall from grace. The way to follow Christ is not by refusing to follow him and Galatians should not be I interpreted as speaking against following Christ.

God could have commanded to rest once a week if that was what He had wanted His people to do, but He wanted His people to rest on the 7th day in memorial of when He rested after Creation, so He commanded that instead. There are no examples anywhere in the Bible of God permitting people to choose whatever day of the week they wanted as their Sabbath or an hour each day. The 7th day is holy to God regardless of whether or not anyone keeps it holy and what is holy to God should not be profaned by man.

There is plenty of room for people to try turn God's word against obeying God's word, but it is unwise to try do that.

summary of verses that changed my mind please

Colossians 2:16-17
"16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

Romans 14 Here is an excerpt, though it is better in context.
"Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. ..One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord."

Those verses by themselves leave room for two possible scenarios:

1.) The Colossians weren't keeping God's feasts, they were being judged by Jews because they were not, and Paul was encouraging them not to let any man judge them for not keeping them.

2.) The Colossians were keeping God's feasts, they were being judged by pagans because they were, and Paul was encouraging them not to let any man judge them for keeping them.

In Colossians 2:16-23, Paul described the people who were judging the Colossians as promoting human teachings and precepts, self-made religion, asceticism, and severity to the body, which means that they were being judged by pagans and that the second scenario is the case. Those promoting asceticism and severity to the body would not have been judging people for refraining from celebrating feasts, so it is ironic when people try to use verses where Paul was encouraging the Colossians not to let anyone prevent them from obeying God's commands to justify their refusal to obey God's commands.

In Romans 14:1, the topic of the chapter is in regard to how to handle disputable matters of opinion in which God has given no command, not in regard to whether followers of God should follow God's commands, so nothing in the chapter should be interpreted as speaking against obeying God. For example, in Roman 14:2-3, they were judging and resenting each other over whether or not someone ate only vegetables even though God gave no command to do that.

In Romans 14:4-6, it is speaking about those who eat or refrain from eating unto the Lord, so it is speaking about those who esteem certain days for fasting as a disputable matter of opinion. For example, in the 1st century it had become a common practice to fast twice a week even though God gave no command to do that and people were judging and resenting each other based on whether or not they chose to do that (Luke 18:12). The reason why were are to keep the Sabbath holy is not because man esteemed it as a disputable matter of opinion, but because God rest on it, blessed it, sanctified it, and commanded His people to keep it holy in memorial of when He rested. Paul was not suggesting that we are free to break the Sabbath or disobey God's commands against committing murder, theft, idolatry, adultery, rape, kidnapping, favoritism, or any of God's other commands as long as we are convinced in our own minds that it is ok to rebel against God, but rather that was only said in regard to disputable matters of opinion in which God has give no command.

Colossians 2:16-17

You have quite the mental gymnastics there to 'prove' your point. I was just reading for the plain text meaning because I was in a circumstance to look with fresh eyes. Nonetheless, it is Holy Spirit's job to interpret and teach us, and we are responsible for following God as He shows us.

I have my suspicions about this person's integrity (too?), but at least at this point I think I will leave them to God to judge (I haven't read much of the discussion but I see no future in getting into divisive arguments). God doesn't care about doctrine since he isn't after intellect and knowledge (1 Corinthians 1). Really all denominations have their errors (ex. I left strict Sabbath-keeping and clean & unclean meat doctrines only to find my more mainstream Christian college forbade drinking and dancing), and I know of many cases where God clearly led someone to a denomination that other Christians despised as cults and heretics. Two separate people I know of even knew those groups were off but also that God was calling them to them.

I think you are trying hard there but struggling to wrap your head around some things. Please allow me to throw some concepts and verses at you.

You referenced Hosea 4:6 (although also Isaiah 5:13) which says:

"6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." (Emphasis added.)

There is a difference between rejecting knowledge and God having never given it. Essentially everyone is in the God having never given it category on somethings (1 Cor. 13:8-12, especially 12a), and God uses this to test us as we are presented with more truth (prophetic word).

As for the differences Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians 11:19 ("For there must also be factions among you, so that those who are approved may become evident among you"), they are all evidential differences of the Holy Spirit's working in a person or body, or the lack thereof, and I would say knowledge is a much lesser evidence that is secondary to other traits. (But still in there per 1 John 2:27. See below.) I speak from experience because I have identified people that were an extreme surprise that they didn't have Holy Spirit (ex. went to church weekly, studied their Bible regularly, etc.), but because of the difference in things more related to what is discussed in 1 John, the truth eventually became evident.

1 John 2:4
"The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;"

1 John 2:9-11
"9 The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now. 10 The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause for stumbling in him. 11 But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes."

1 John 2:27
"27 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. "

1 John 3:3
"3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. "

1 John 3:6-8
" No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning."

1 John 3:9-10
"9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother." (Emphasis added.)


Also, there are the fruit of the flesh and the Spirit as discussed in Galatians 5. Note that knowledge is not mentioned.

"19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. "