Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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selahsays

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There is no righteous man on earth who never sins (Ecc 7:20).

And we were talking about receiving gospel truth, were we not? The dead will never receive that truth until they are raised from their spiritual tombs.
Would the dead be the tares, like Cain?
 

selahsays

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Another poster suggested there were some here who were devil pleases. I was just wondering who they were.
Ah, okay. That’d be the tares. Those whose father is the devil.
"Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. "But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

- John 8:43-45
 

Cameron143

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Ah, okay. That’d be the tares. Those whose father is the devil.
"Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. "But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

- John 8:43-45
He was referring to some here.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Is it true that one must be a doer to become a hearer?
I said, and you quoted it already.

If you do not do you are either not listening, which doesn't mean you're not a hearer just only not listening.
And I said if you're are listening but not doing then you are just choosing to reject God.
Either way, you make the choice.