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He definitely has a problem with kryptonite.

Imagine your punch being able to turn a planet into dust but all of a sudden a little green rock is in front of you and all of a sudden you punch like a toddler and collapse from exhaustion.

Imagine your punch being able to turn a planet into dust but all of a sudden a little green rock is in front of you and all of a sudden you punch like a toddler and collapse from exhaustion.

Now now, to be fair, you would turn back at the mere site of a porkchop...

Or this:

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* Do you have problems sleeping? Was there anything in particular that seems to have brought it on?

* What have you done in order to try to diagnose, treat, and cope with your lack of sleep? How long have you been struggling?

* Does living with/around other people make a big difference? Do you think you'd sleep better if you lived alone? Do you have a spouse with sleeping problems that literally keep you awake?

* What things have you tried that both have and haven't worked? Were there any times when you felt God intervened to change or heal your sleeping?

Yes, I know. But still... Huh?


You used many words to say very little. The only thing you really said was "It can take time to see physical results."

The "Huh?" was about all the rest. What in tarnation were you talking about?

Sigh. (But with love and grace for you.)

Ok, first off, there was the fact that my roommate and I again sought the truth of the matter in the spirit. Then there was the clarification that the belief issue was with another party and not Stingray72 himself. Then there was the fact that a real step was taken in the spirit to get the issue resolved. Then there was the tempering of possible expectations with timing of physical manifestation.

If all you got from it was "It can take time to see physical results," then maybe you are a big picture person with no interest in the details or steps along the way. For me personally, though, I am a teacher and helping people come to understand the process was on my radar. I also was opposed to unexpressed love, when expression can be helpful to the edification of others. And even if we were essentially just confirming what was already said, confirmation can be needful. However there was a real change from "someday this will happen," to "a real step was taken and get ready because it's coming."

this is something certain Christian groups do...including a good number of Pentecostals

they believe that the 'gift of prophecy' can be used to give people information directly from God (through His Spirit I presume)

I call it 'Christian fortune-telling' and I have seen it used where people will line up and the speaker will go from person to person supposedly speaking words from God over them

I have also seen the results of some of these 'words/prophecies' end very badly...as an example: a woman I later counselled had been told by one of these people that she should marry so and so. She did and the man was very cruel to her physically, emotionally and spiritually. She left him; she could not take it anymore...it was absolute abuse. Ultimately, she did meet a Christian man and married him (the other was divorced and rightfully so IMO) and was very content and he was very kind to her.

I have a long list of such outcomes and frankly I am perturbed that someone on this site is now handing out words and saying they are from God.

I do not believe this is God. You won't find it in the Bible and people should remember that we have the Holy Spirit in us now and do not need a 'Moses' to speak to us on behalf of God.

That being said, I do believe a person can have insight into another but not as directives from God. This can and does result in people putting faith in other people rather than God

Hmm... Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. God has sent a word through somebody else for me multiple times. Each time it was something very specific, something the person could never have known, and was exactly on point.

But each time, it was also private. Sometimes the person telling me didn't really know what it meant, just told me what was on his or her heart and hoped it was useful to me, and there was no way I was going to enlighten them because it would have embarrassed the crap out of me. God knows how to get a message to you without airing your dirty laundry in front of everyone.

This thing about setting oneself up as a prophet and making a big show of it, I have seen it before in church and it never has been accurate or profitable. For that matter it has never been accurate or profitable when I have seen it on the forum either.

Yes, one of my first encounters with prophecy was while helping a schizophrenic friend church shop while she was distraught over delusions. I was amazed to see how God used a person to comfort her without disgracing her.

And yeah, anyone setting themself up as a Prophet is going to have some serious repercussions from God. It is no small infraction to claim to speak for God falsely. But there are real ones too; Satan likes to make counterfeits to discredit the true. It takes spiritual discernment and humbly seeking God to know the difference.

Realize, though, that it isn't a Prophet's job to convince you, but your responsibility to test. It simply doesn't work the other way. God's messages would never get spoken if His Prophets were always on the defensive to prove themself. And it wouldn't produce the right relationship or what God is after in mankind.

"19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise prophetic utterances. 21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 22 abstain from every form of evil."
1 Thessalonians 5:19-22

Yes, one of my first encounters with prophecy was while helping a schizophrenic friend church shop while she was distraught over delusions. I was amazed to see how God used a person to comfort her without disgracing her.

And yeah, anyone setting themself up as a Prophet is going to have some serious repercussions from God. It is no small infraction to claim to speak for God falsely. But there are real ones too; Satan likes to make counterfeits to discredit the true. It takes spiritual discernment and humbly seeking God to know the difference.

Realize, though, that it isn't a Prophet's job to convince you, but your responsibility to test. It simply doesn't work the other way. God's messages would never get spoken if His Prophets were always on the defensive to prove themself. And it wouldn't produce the right relationship or what God is after in mankind.

"19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise prophetic utterances. 21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 22 abstain from every form of evil."
1 Thessalonians 5:19-22

by the way did someone pray from me for sleep yesterday because i feel asleep really early on my couch reclining and woke up at 5 am haha. I even feel asleep again later today twice.

Wonderful news!

God bless you, Stingray! ❤️🙂

How bout you have you slept any better?

Hmm... Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. God has sent a word through somebody else for me multiple times. Each time it was something very specific, something the person could never have known, and was exactly on point.

But each time, it was also private. Sometimes the person telling me didn't really know what it meant, just told me what was on his or her heart and hoped it was useful to me, and there was no way I was going to enlighten them because it would have embarrassed the crap out of me. God knows how to get a message to you without airing your dirty laundry in front of everyone.

This thing about setting oneself up as a prophet and making a big show of it, I have seen it before in church and it never has been accurate or profitable. For that matter it has never been accurate or profitable when I have seen it on the forum either.

That being said, I do believe a person can have insight into another but not as directives from God. This can and does result in people putting faith in other people rather than God

Yes, one of my first encounters with prophecy was while helping a schizophrenic friend church shop while she was distraught over delusions. I was amazed to see how God used a person to comfort her without disgracing her.

And yeah, anyone setting themself up as a Prophet is going to have some serious repercussions from God. It is no small infraction to claim to speak for God falsely. But there are real ones too; Satan likes to make counterfeits to discredit the true. It takes spiritual discernment and humbly seeking God to know the difference.

Realize, though, that it isn't a Prophet's job to convince you, but your responsibility to test. It simply doesn't work the other way. God's messages would never get spoken if His Prophets were always on the defensive to prove themself. And it wouldn't produce the right relationship or what God is after in mankind.

"19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise prophetic utterances. 21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 22 abstain from every form of evil."
1 Thessalonians 5:19-22

But each time, it was also private. Sometimes the person telling me didn't really know what it meant, just told me what was on his or her heart and hoped it was useful to me, and there was no way I was going to enlighten them because it would have embarrassed the crap out of me. God knows how to get a message to you without airing your dirty laundry in front of everyone.

This thing about setting oneself up as a prophet and making a big show of it, I have seen it before in church and it never has been accurate or profitable. For that matter it has never been accurate or profitable when I have seen it on the forum either.