June 6, 1944: D-Day In Memoriam

Yup, that is the way it goes the powerful oppress .. just like how the Palestinians have been oppressed since 1947.

You even had to go whataboutism on this one too? Well, whatever floats your boat.

This isn't a debate, logical fallacies do not apply, this is an open discussion.

While having experienced it first hand as my parents did in Europe is valuable and I have learned a lot from them, I think that while we may not like a certain country or leader we cannot deny the documented effort and manpower the Soviet Union put in to the defeat the Nazi's on the eastern front.

I can understand it from that point of view but you have to realize that in my family mine own family members were in different theaters of the war. My immediate family was in the US but others were still living in Spain,Holland,Ukraine ect.... On my fathers side they had migrated from Palatinate on the Rhine to the US in the mid 1700's but a lot of our family were still there at that time and many of them were in one army or the other. Many of my family members immigrated to both the US and Mexico but for the ones who did not being of Hebrew/Jewish decent was not a good situation(neither in Germany nor Russia). I think it's a "my war" thing where depending on where the person happened to be during the war they will probably see it different than others. To bee truthful I watch people speak of their experiences of it and compare it to the ones told to me by my family members and it's like watching the movie Noah and trying to figure out how Hollywood ended up with Tubal-Cain on the Ark. Anyway this many years later it's just rather odd watching how the WW2 stories have evolved over time and comparing them with mine own memories of then,lol...

I can understand it from that point of view but you have to realize that in my family mine own family members were in different theaters of the war. My immediate family was in the US but others were still living in Spain,Holland,Ukraine ect.... On my fathers side they had migrated from Palatinate on the Rhine to the US in the mid 1700's but a lot of our family were still there at that time and many of them were in one army or the other. Many of my family members immigrated to both the US and Mexico but for the ones who did not being of Hebrew/Jewish decent was not a good situation(neither in Germany nor Russia). I think it's a "my war" thing where depending on where the person happened to be during the war they will probably see it different than others. To bee truthful I watch people speak of their experiences of it and compare it to the ones told to me by my family members and it's like watching the movie Noah and trying to figure out how Hollywood ended up with Tubal-Cain on the Ark. Anyway this many years later it's just rather odd watching how the WW2 stories have evolved over time and comparing them with mine own memories of then,lol...

Yes I understand this and saw it in my own family.
Studying history is a different thing I think.

Yep but who's history books they all say different things,lol

Without getting into the details too much here, i completely understand the sentiment of "Victor writes history".
For example from an American historian POV, USA liberated Europe from Nazis and from a Russian historian POV, it was the Russians who liberated the Europe from Nazis.
So, who liberated Europe?
Nobody knows.

I can relate. Two of my great grandparents were from Finland. Some of my relatives were fighting for the nazi regime, while others were fighting for the allies. Some of my forefathers were fighting for the Union and others were fighting for the Confederate States.

I have fought in several wars over the last 30 years, and it’s hard for me to adjust to a normal life. It’s like a family curse. But if you’re growing up dirt poor in Texas, a military career is a way out of the shacks.

Maybe it was the aliens who liberated Europe?

It looks like we are losing sight of our history, an alarming trend in our culture.

Not just losing sight. Making that history DISAPPEAR, and replacing it with hateful things.

WWII must be losing its historical significance in this generation, and that's hard for me to understand.

This is why a lot of people think that the holocaust didn't happen, due to the long gap in generations and most importantly due to the nature of the internet which is a minefield.
History is always doomed to repeat itself in a lot of cases but the internet is speeding things up perhaps.

And some things are never even taught, like the forced migration/ethnic cleansing of 12 to 14 million Germans at the end of WWII.

An amazing portion of the speech, when leaders spoke intelligently before the advent of Idiocracy, he warned and yet here we are.

The Communists and Fascists in the Western world have taken over, and most people do not even know it. The Revisionists are writing their own histories and history books, and erasing actual history.

So much irony.

Which group do you belong to -- Communist or Fascist? There is no irony there.