God's Wll is NOT Complicated

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JJGS

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‭1 Thessalonians 5:5-18 AMPC‬
[5] For you are all sons of light and sons of the day; we do not belong either to the night or to darkness. [6] Accordingly then, let us not sleep, as the rest do, but let us keep wide awake (alert, watchful, cautious, and on our guard) and let us be sober (calm, collected, and circumspect). [7] For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who are drunk, get drunk at night. [8] But we belong to the day; therefore, let us be sober and put on the breastplate (corslet) of faith and love and for a helmet the hope of salvation. [9] For God has not appointed us to [incur His] wrath [He did not select us to condemn us], but [that we might] obtain [His] salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) [10] Who died for us so that whether we are still alive or are dead [at Christ's appearing], we might live together with Him and share His life. [11] Therefore encourage (admonish, exhort) one another and edify (strengthen and build up) one another, just as you are doing. [12] Now also we beseech you, brethren, get to know those who labor among you [recognize them for what they are, acknowledge and appreciate and respect them all]–your leaders who are over you in the Lord and those who warn and kindly reprove and exhort you. [13] And hold them in very high and most affectionate esteem in [intelligent and sympathetic] appreciation of their work. Be at peace among yourselves. [14] And we earnestly beseech you, brethren, admonish (warn and seriously advise) those who are out of line [the loafers, the disorderly, and the unruly]; encourage the timid and fainthearted, help and give your support to the weak souls, [and] be very patient with everybody [always keeping your temper]. [Isa. 35:4.] [15] See that none of you repays another with evil for evil, but always aim to show kindness and seek to do good to one another and to everybody. [16] Be happy [in your faith] and rejoice and be glad-hearted continually (always); [17] Be unceasing in prayer [praying perseveringly]; [18] Thank [God] in everything [no matter what the circumstances may be, be thankful and give thanks], for this is the will of God for you [who are] in Christ Jesus [the Revealer and Mediator of that will].

https://bible.com/bible/8/1th.5.5-18.AMPC
 

Lynx

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#2
Life sure can get complicated though...
 

JJGS

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#3
Life sure can get complicated though...
Yes, but God is not the Author of confusion. And He gives us wisdom when we ask Him in Faith. :)

‭James 1:2-8 NKJV‬

[2] My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, [3] knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. [4] But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. [5] If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. [6] But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. [7] For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; [8] he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

https://bible.com/bible/114/jas.1.2-8.NKJV
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Life sure can get complicated though...
Yes, but God is not the Author of confusion. And He gives us wisdom when we ask Him in Faith. :)

‭James 1:2-8 NKJV‬

[2] My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, [3] knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. [4] But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. [5] If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. [6] But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. [7] For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; [8] he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

https://bible.com/bible/114/jas.1.2-8.NKJV

I certainly agree that God's will isn't necessarily complicated.

But I can also certainly testify to the things that make it hard to hear God or know what His will is.

For instance.

You to go work, it's a normal day. You come, and notice part of the house is extraordinarily neat. But suddenly... Your heart floods with panic, because you know something is wrong. You run to the closet and find... Half of it is empty.

Your husband has left, in the middle of the day while you were at work, without so much as a word of warning. Several months later, you get papers that say, "You Are Being Sued For Divorce" in the mail.

You fast, you pray, you stay up for nights on end because you are physically so distressed that you can't sleep. You have a choice to not legally grant him the divorce, but something in you says, "Let him go." And you don't know why. Isn't this a sin? Doesn't God want marriages to be held together no matter what?

But something in you says to sign the papers and let him have his wish. You are left not only with an empty home and heart, but all the bills. You decide, after praying with your family, to leave the area for a full-time job, even though you're very close to getting a Master's Degree.

Half a year later, one of your friends calls you at 2 AM in the morning. Up until this point, your husband never gave you a reason as to why he left. Your friend finally gives you the answer.

Your husband was recently spotted, in the old area where you used to live, hand-in-hand with his girlfriend. They had gotten together even when you were married, but they were able to keep it under wraps until now, and had decided to go public since you are no longer living in that area.

This whole time, the church and its members, not knowing any of this, was telling you that you had no Biblical reason to divorce, you terrible sinner, and that at age 25, I could never marry anyone else again.

Finally, you know why, in the midst of all the confusion over keeping a marriage together no matter what, the Holy Spirit, and your family, had been nudging you to let him go.

His heart already belonged to someone else.

What was the will of God?

For him to change his mind, to leave this girl, to go back to his marriage, and for me to forgive all. But God already knew what was going on and what would happen (he eventually married someone else, though not this girl,) and He was leading me forward, complete wreck that I was.

Yes, the will of God isn't complicated.

But as Lynx said, life itself throw more than a few wrenches into the mix, and they're not just easily dealt solved with just another repetition of Bible verses we all know. And the damage, even though God heals, is permanent. Some things won't be healed until we get to heaven.

I do know that you mean the best, @JJGS, and you seem like a very sincere person.

Blessings to you and wishing you all the best.
 

JJGS

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#5
I certainly agree that God's will isn't necessarily complicated.

But I can also certainly testify to the things that make it hard to hear God or know what His will is.

For instance.

You to go work, it's a normal day. You come, and notice part of the house is extraordinarily neat. But suddenly... Your heart floods with panic, because you know something is wrong. You run to the closet and find... Half of it is empty.

Your husband has left, in the middle of the day while you were at work, without so much as a word of warning. Several months later, you get papers that say, "You Are Being Sued For Divorce" in the mail.

You fast, you pray, you stay up for nights on end because you are physically so distressed that you can't sleep. You have a choice to not legally grant him the divorce, but something in you says, "Let him go." And you don't know why. Isn't this a sin? Doesn't God want marriages to be held together no matter what?

But something in you says to sign the papers and let him have his wish. You are left not only with an empty home and heart, but all the bills. You decide, after praying with your family, to leave the area for a full-time job, even though you're very close to getting a Master's Degree.

Half a year later, one of your friends calls you at 2 AM in the morning. Up until this point, your husband never gave you a reason as to why he left. Your friend finally gives you the answer.

Your husband was recently spotted, in the old area where you used to live, hand-in-hand with his girlfriend. They had gotten together even when you were married, but they were able to keep it under wraps until now, and had decided to go public since you are no longer living in that area.

This whole time, the church and its members, not knowing any of this, was telling you that you had no Biblical reason to divorce, you terrible sinner, and that at age 25, I could never marry anyone else again.

Finally, you know why, in the midst of all the confusion over keeping a marriage together no matter what, the Holy Spirit, and your family, had been nudging you to let him go.

His heart already belonged to someone else.

What was the will of God?

For him to change his mind, to leave this girl, to go back to his marriage, and for me to forgive all. But God already knew what was going on and what would happen (he eventually married someone else, though not this girl,) and He was leading me forward, complete wreck that I was.

Yes, the will of God isn't complicated.

But as Lynx said, life itself throw more than a few wrenches into the mix, and they're not just easily dealt solved with just another repetition of Bible verses we all know. And the damage, even though God heals, is permanent. Some things won't be healed until we get to heaven.

I do know that you mean the best, @JJGS, and you seem like a very sincere person.

Blessings to you and wishing you all the best.
I deeply appreciate the completeness of your detailed scenario. That has the sting of betrayal, deception, infidelity, shame, and a whole lot more! My heart goes out to whoever that happened to because I agree it was evil and downright not fair!!! But I also know the grace, love, and truth of God and His gospel has enough power to heal every broken heart completely. Since He raised Jesus from the dead, is there anything too difficult for Him to accomplish??? I'm feeling that the story you shared is actually yours, but I could be wrong too. If it is your story, my heart truly goes out to you and I would love to talk with you further about it if you feel it would help you. Please let me know either way! I declare RESTORE to all broken hearts because the Spirit of the Lord has anointed Christ to heal the brokenhearted! And I for one choose to believe Him! I pray you will join me and receive the mending of your broken heart as a testimony that will glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! Below are 3 prayers and Scriptures that have the potential to help you overcome all hurt and hate that has ever been expressed. The Lord bless you and keep you! IJNIP, Amen!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

A Prayer for People Who’ve Hurt Me: God, I forgive them: the people who’ve caused me pain... the people who’ve wronged and betrayed me. I forgive them, because You forgave me. Please bless those people, Lord. Transform their lives and bless them like You have blessed me. In Jesus’ name, Amen.

A Prayer to Reflect Your Love in my Relationships: Father, thank You for the relationships that You have blessed me with. I ask You to teach me Holy Spirit, how to believe and behave as the Son you created me by only saying what I hear You say, and doing what I see You do. Thank You I reflect a loving husband, father, friend, and employee because that is who I am as You created me. Let me receive more of Your love, and choose to stay in Your love, that I may reflect it to everyone around me. Let Me show Your love in a form that people can receive and know that it comes from You. In Jesus' name I pray, amen!

New, You Make All Things!: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more; and I, John, saw the holy city — new Jerusalem — coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband; and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, ‘Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them — their God, and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be any more, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.’

And He who is sitting upon the throne said, ‘Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, ‘Write, because these words are true and stedfast;’ and He said to me, ‘It hath been done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; I, to him who is thirsting, will give of the fountain of the water of the life freely; he who is overcoming shall inherit all things, and I will be to him — a God, and he shall be to me — the son,

Revelation 21:1‭-‬7 YLT98

https://bible.com/bible/821/rev.21.1-7.YLT98
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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I deeply appreciate the completeness of your detailed scenario. That has the sting of betrayal, deception, infidelity, shame, and a whole lot more! My heart goes out to whoever that happened to because I agree it was evil and downright not fair!!! But I also know the grace, love, and truth of God and His gospel has enough power to heal every broken heart completely. Since He raised Jesus from the dead, is there anything too difficult for Him to accomplish??? I'm feeling that the story you shared is actually yours, but I could be wrong too. If it is your story, my heart truly goes out to you and I would love to talk with you further about it if you feel it would help you. Please let me know either way! I declare RESTORE to all broken hearts because the Spirit of the Lord has anointed Christ to heal the brokenhearted! And I for one choose to believe Him! I pray you will join me and receive the mending of your broken heart as a testimony that will glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! Below are 3 prayers and Scriptures that have the potential to help you overcome all hurt and hate that has ever been expressed. The Lord bless you and keep you! IJNIP, Amen!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

A Prayer for People Who’ve Hurt Me: God, I forgive them: the people who’ve caused me pain... the people who’ve wronged and betrayed me. I forgive them, because You forgave me. Please bless those people, Lord. Transform their lives and bless them like You have blessed me. In Jesus’ name, Amen.

A Prayer to Reflect Your Love in my Relationships: Father, thank You for the relationships that You have blessed me with. I ask You to teach me Holy Spirit, how to believe and behave as the Son you created me by only saying what I hear You say, and doing what I see You do. Thank You I reflect a loving husband, father, friend, and employee because that is who I am as You created me. Let me receive more of Your love, and choose to stay in Your love, that I may reflect it to everyone around me. Let Me show Your love in a form that people can receive and know that it comes from You. In Jesus' name I pray, amen!

New, You Make All Things!: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more; and I, John, saw the holy city — new Jerusalem — coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband; and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, ‘Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them — their God, and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be any more, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.’

And He who is sitting upon the throne said, ‘Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, ‘Write, because these words are true and stedfast;’ and He said to me, ‘It hath been done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; I, to him who is thirsting, will give of the fountain of the water of the life freely; he who is overcoming shall inherit all things, and I will be to him — a God, and he shall be to me — the son,

Revelation 21:1‭-‬7 YLT98

https://bible.com/bible/821/rev.21.1-7.YLT98
Yes, it was my story, and I greatly appreciate your compassion, willingness to listen, and prayers. Thank you. :giggle:

I had noticed a while back that in another post you had wrote to someone else here on the forum, you asked them, "How can I serve you today?" which really touched my heart, and is why I've been trying to read your threads.

The majority of people here (myself included,) are often the ones asking for prayer, advice, or something from others.

It is incredibly rare to find someone who has their heart set on serving and giving to other people instead.

Thank you for that, @JJGS.

We are glad to have you here, and please tell us how we can pray for you and your family as well.

God bless you.
 

JJGS

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#7
Yes, it was my story, and I greatly appreciate your compassion, willingness to listen, and prayers. Thank you. :giggle:

I had noticed a while back that in another post you had wrote to someone else here on the forum, you asked them, "How can I serve you today?" which really touched my heart, and is why I've been trying to read your threads.

The majority of people here (myself included,) are often the ones asking for prayer, advice, or something from others.

It is incredibly rare to find someone who has their heart set on serving and giving to other people instead.

Thank you for that, @JJGS.

We are glad to have you here, and please tell us how we can pray for you and your family as well.

God bless you.
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