The hatred of Jews

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HeIsHere

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Remarks like this can be interpreted as a hallmark of the conspiracy theorists. They have always been studying and the blinders have been removed.
One does not study "theories" to know the facts of history.
 

HeIsHere

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You’re deflecting what I said. I don’t know the real story behind the USS Liberty incident, but the aftermath was a political matter. Sometimes that gets ugly. You, however is at liberty to tell them what they really should have done.

Anyhow, on October 7, Hamas attacked a soft target without prior warning. That is an indisputable fact.
Oh the IDF was informed, they could see Hamas doing training exercise and actually women soldiers reported what they saw and their reports were not acted upon.

Just so you now the IDF obtained Hamas's plan of attack more than a year prior, documents, emails etc., everything the Palestinians do is monitored, every movement of the people in the cage is monitored.

I think a year in advance is sufficient warning.
So much for your fact.
 

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Oh the IDF was informed, they could see Hamas doing training exercise and actually women soldiers reported what they saw and their reports were not acted upon.

Just so you now the IDF obtained Hamas's plan of attack more than a year prior, documents, emails etc., everything the Palestinians do is monitored, every movement of the people in the cage is monitored.

I think a year in advance is sufficient warning.
So much for your fact.
I guess you have valid sources for this claim?
 

Magenta

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Hamas started a war, surely they weren't dumb enough to think Israel was going
let them rape, brutally murder and take hostages and it not start a war?
They read the stupidity of the populace. Haven't you heard? Islam is a religion of peace!

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ThereRoseaLamb

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I do not deny that the Jews/Israelites lived there originally, and I do not deny that they should have a homeland not based on prophecy but because it seems right just like how Italians have a homeland.
Not "a" homeland, their homeland. Which is Israel.

What I do not accept is their innocence in acquiring the land and their underhanded methods, it did not have to be done that way, the documents show clearly the plan to ethnically cleanse the indigenous population, that is unjustifiable.
Well ,there can't be any more primary source than a photograph. The Al-Aqsa Mosque before 1948. Mark Twain said of his visit there "Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince… Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone… Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise?… Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition — it is dream-land. "






And I still maintain that only a direct word from God ensures it was a move of God.
How do you get any more direct than God himself saying He would bring it to pass?!
 

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Soft target?

Why did Israel choose to attack the USS Liberty and kill 34 Americans and wound 171 crew members?

Why did the USA order the recall of the planes that had been sent to rescue the Liberty? Why did Navy leadership order the surviving crew to be silent regarding the attack on the Liberty?

Why in the Great March of Return did Israeli snipers deliberately target disabled people and murdered them, those in wheel chairs 300 meters shot in the head, on crutches (300 meters) shot dead?

Why did Israel decide they could put up a wall and block them in and then control their food, water and electricity?

Why did Israel decide it could just take over the land and murder, rape and kill the inhabitants (some of them Christians) and force them to leave their homes at gun point? All well documented in the historical record not You Tube garbage.

Oh right the Arabs/Palestinians are evil people less than human in fact, they are the Amalek that is what Netahayoo is on record as saying.
I get you brother. No point talking to people who have made up their minds to take an unfair political stance on this war. Wars on both sides are ugly. To justify and say one is in the right and the other deserves it is so wrong.

It doesn't matter who started it. And it wasn't like Palestine started something new. This has been going on for a long long time. For decades now.

But right now, it is the Palestinians who are suffering. Women, Children and people who do not fight. Those who aren't soldiers. Infants. And it is ongoing. It is present day news.

I just can't believe that there are people this cold blooded in this thread. Anyway.

I just pray that God give them a heart of flesh instead of the stones that they have where there is supposed to be one.

I feel sad for the people, the women and children. Especially the children who don't even know what it is to live or be loved by parents and family that they should go through what they are going through.

It makes sense to hurt adults. But to kill young infants and kids. It is just so wrong. I've nothing more to say. God have mercy on Palestine. They too are God's children.
 

HeIsHere

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Not "a" homeland, their homeland. Which is Israel.



Well ,there can't be any more primary source than a photograph. The Al-Aqsa Mosque before 1948. Mark Twain said of his visit there "Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince… Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone… Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise?… Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition — it is dream-land. "








How do you get any more direct than God himself saying He would bring it to pass?!
Not "a" homeland, their homeland. Which is Israel.



Well ,there can't be any more primary source than a photograph. The Al-Aqsa Mosque before 1948. Mark Twain said of his visit there "Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince… Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone… Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise?… Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition — it is dream-land. "








How do you get any more direct than God himself saying He would bring it to pass?!
I guess that is why Jesus stated "weep for yourselves"

I respect your passion and I know it is well meaning but it will not solve the problems because there is lots of blame to go around
and I fear its resolution will not be at the negotiating table.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You keep repeating that, but I get the impression that there is an amount of bias in the way you are expressing yourself.

You still haven’t said anything about October 7.

As soon as someone brings out the USS Liberty trope out, I know there is bias. It took longer this time round, but there it is.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I guess that is why Jesus stated "weep for yourselves"

I respect your passion and I know it is well meaning but it will not solve the problems because there is lots of blame to go around
and I fear its resolution will not be at the negotiating table.

I don't see a solution until Christ returns. They have tried this many years, it's the sword that every president has fallen on. Everyone wants to be the one that has solved the issue, but alas, no one has yet come near to having the answer.
 

HeIsHere

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As soon as someone brings out the USS Liberty trope out, I know there is bias. It took longer this time round, but there it is.
I suppose attacking an American Food Convoy will be a trope in a few years as well.

Oops sorry, yes we knew you were there and yes you told us about your mission and yes we conversed every hour but we are just that

sloppy that we could not see the bright signs all over your vans.

Sorry it was an error, the investigation will proceed fore-with, and if in the meantime a few more people can starve as we implement

our plan of collective punishment.

What you say, it is against international law, are you sure, we are the most moral army on the planet our AI never targets innocent

children and women, we have it set so it kills two Hamas and the collateral damage of 100 civilians per military target is perfectly

acceptable because our AI is infallible and plus they are all guilty each and every one anyway!