SPEAKING TONGUES

As I stated, the answer is found in the word. Speaking in unknown tongues was the sign that confirmed people had received the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2, 10, 19 and alluded to in Acts 8)

Okay, you do as you do then, yet not with men, thank you, I will stand in trusty to God over out all and make no law to have to do. I will do as lead by God to do
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Under Law, any Law any man makes over and even with God supposedly as if know God. This God you are preaching is not the God, of the risen Christ
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I disagree with your legs;ism, that you use to get people under you or the Church you attend

Why?
Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

What is a Speaking Tongues?
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The apostles were the first to speak in tongues on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2. The people who heard them were from all nations but each could hear the message in their own language. It was a miraculous gift given by the Holy Spirit when He fell on the apostles in a miraculous way. 1 Corinthians 14:22 says that “tongues” are for a “sign” to unbelievers. The Jews there that day were unbelievers. Many of them had just killed the Son of God just 50 days earlier. The tongues got their attention and proved to them that these men were from God. The speaking in tongues was a miracle because every nation of people there that day heard them speak in their own language. So the tongues were languages—not jibberish! I Corinthians also tells us that they could be interpreted to those who did not speak that language. In fact, God plainly tells the church in 1 Cor. NOT to speak in tongues unless there is an interpreter that can interpret. 1 Cor. 14:27-28. Also, the person with the gift of tongues could CONTROL that gift! Paul says that there should only be 2 or 3 at the most and they were to take turns. Verse 28-“ But if there is no interpreter let him KEEP SILENT in the church!” This is all very different than what you see among people and churches today who still want to practice this. All spiritual gifts were for a purpose. They were “signs” and were necessary to prove and confirm the word of God. See Mark 16:20 and Hebrews 2:3-4. They were REGULATED by God. And 1Cor. 13 tells us that when they had the complete will of God revealed to them and written down as in our Bible—they would CEASE! They served a purpose for the early church, when they were not able to hold a copy of the completed, perfect revelation from God. As the scripture says, “ For now we know IN PART…”. They only had “part” of God’s complete will. But once they had all of God’s word there was no longer any need for prophecy, miraculous revelation, and all the rest of the spiritual gifts of the Spirit.
The apostles were the only ones who could lay their hands on people and give them a “spiritual gift.” The person who received the gift from an apostle could not “pass it on” to someone else. You could only get it from an apostle. The apostles controlled who got the gifts. Therefore, when the last apostle died, spiritual gifts ceased. You don’t have people today who have had this gift passed down from the first century.

...In fact, God plainly tells the church in 1 Cor. NOT to speak in tongues unless there is an interpreter that can interpret. 1 Cor. 14:27-28. Also, the person with the gift of tongues could CONTROL that gift! Paul says that there should only be 2 or 3 at the most and they were to take turns. Verse 28-“ But if there is no interpreter let him KEEP SILENT in the church!”

This is all very different than what you see among people and churches today who still want to practice this. All spiritual gifts were for a purpose. They were “signs” and were necessary to prove and confirm the word of God. See Mark 16:20 and Hebrews 2:3-4. They were REGULATED by God. And 1Cor. 13 tells us that when they had the complete will of God revealed to them and written down as in our Bible—they would CEASE! They served a purpose for the early church, when they were not able to hold a copy of the completed, perfect revelation from God. As the scripture says, “ For now we know IN PART…”. They only had “part” of God’s complete will. But once they had all of God’s word there was no longer any need for prophecy, miraculous revelation, and all the rest of the spiritual gifts of the Spirit.
The apostles were the only ones who could lay their hands on people and give them a “spiritual gift.” The person who received the gift from an apostle could not “pass it on” to someone else. You could only get it from an apostle. The apostles controlled who got the gifts. Therefore, when the last apostle died, spiritual gifts ceased. You don’t have people today who have had this gift passed down from the first century.

I promote nothing but the word. What people do after they have been shown the truth from scripture is between them and God.

Study Acts 2 and 1 Cor 12, 14. The word "tongues" was commonly used in the 17th century to denote languages. And the word "unknown" was inserted by the KJB translators but does not belong in the Greek text.

@Beckworth your post to @Godswilling
Many fail to see that the purpose for Spiritual gifts has not changed. They still manifest for the purpose of proving the existence of God, as well as being the means of direct communication between God and His people.

The apostles laid hands upon people to assist in their receiving the Holy Ghost/Spirit not to impart the gifts. And at times as scripture attests the Holy Ghost comes to dwell within individuals without any assistance from others. The flow of Spiritual gifts originate directly from the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost/Spirit.


Scripture reveals the manifestation of tongues serves different purposes: Evidence of the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost, personal edification through prayer in unknown tongues, and the gift of tongues and gift of interpretation for edification of church members and/or guests.


Note the distinction made by the Apostle Paul:

"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1 Cor 14:2

"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. 1 Cor 14:18-19

"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. (this indicates quiet praying in unknown tongues to God) 1 Cor. 14:27-28

What is a Speaking Tongues?
Is it necessary to speak in tongues in our times?

Thanks Godswilling for your relevant question. It is relevant because many groups professing Christianity have popularized the idea of speaking in tongues. Unfortunately, what is called speaking in tongues in these groups is not particularly what is meant by scripture in that regard in my opinion. When scripture speaks about tongues in the Bible it has to do with the fact that those who hear the gospel and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ then find themselves with a new spirit and indeed a new outlook if you will. If they once used their normal language (English in my case) to discuss things, they only did so from the perspective which humans, in their fallen condition found to speak. But once they have believed the good news, they speak in their normal language (still English in my case) but they do so from a new spirit, a new perspective. You will hear them say things like: thanks God, or praise God, or God can help you, or should we ask God about that, and so forth. They never used to think or speak like that. So, the Bible calls this speaking with new tongues, because they speak in the tongue they are accustomed to but it comes from the new perspective, the new spirit that God has graciously given them.

Sometimes the Bible calls these new tongues or other tongues. The Bible does so because these tongues are other than what they used to have before being saved. They are other in the sense that they are different in spirit than previous - previous to being saved. They are not new or other in the sense that they are some made up language or babbling or something that sounds like Kingon or anything weird. If you speak Spanish before you are saved, you will still speak Spanish after you are saved. But you have a new spirit now, with a love for the Lord and for others.

The Bible also talks about people speaking in an unknown tongue. This does not mean that people speak in a supernatural gibberish language that is not common to earth. Rather, it means that a saved person is speaking the good things about God and sharing the gospel, and from the perspective of an unsaved person, this is an unknown. They do not understand the gospel, so to them it is an unknown language.

Paul wants people to understand the gospel and to be saved, so he says to pray that the people listening will understand, that the spirit will interpret the gospel into their hearts, so that they will be saved.

Paul would rather speak a very few words to someone that they understand to convert them to salvation, than to speak a large number of words to someone and they are still unconverted.

So, don't worry, if you are saved, because if you are you already are speaking in new tongues, in other tongues even though it is the same tongue (of English in your case and mine).

Finally, I might note that people love to bring up Pentecost in relation to speaking in tongues. They think that the spirit suddenly gave some people the ability to speak in languages of other countries that they never could speak before. Like if I always speak English but suddenly the spirit gives me the ability to speak Lithuanian. Further, the reason for this would be because there were a bunch of Jewish people from all over the world standing by at least one of which was Lithuanian. And he heard me and marvelled. This is fun-sounding, and it's not that God can't do this, but the thing that is overlooked, in my opinion, is that the Bible is written in parable form (Psalm 78:1-2, Mark 4:34). Jews on the day of Pentecost in the Acts scripture are called Jews because they are a picture of saved persons. When the spirit causes others to be saved by the outpouring of the spirit, they marvel in that others understand about God as they do. It is not about someone speaking a new international language supernaturally. It is rather about those who become saved can share in their normal language with others, particularly those from their own language area, since they too are now saved.

Thanks Godswilling for your relevant question. It is relevant because many groups professing Christianity have popularized the idea of speaking in tongues. Unfortunately, what is called speaking in tongues in these groups is not particularly what is meant by scripture in that regard in my opinion. When scripture speaks about tongues in the Bible it has to do with the fact that those who hear the gospel and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ then find themselves with a new spirit and indeed a new outlook if you will. If they once used their normal language (English in my case) to discuss things, they only did so from the perspective which humans, in their fallen condition found to speak. But once they have believed the good news, they speak in their normal language (still English in my case) but they do so from a new spirit, a new perspective. You will hear them say things like: thanks God, or praise God, or God can help you, or should we ask God about that, and so forth. They never used to think or speak like that. So, the Bible calls this speaking with new tongues, because they speak in the tongue they are accustomed to but it comes from the new perspective, the new spirit that God has graciously given them.

Sometimes the Bible calls these new tongues or other tongues. The Bible does so because these tongues are other than what they used to have before being saved. They are other in the sense that they are different in spirit than previous - previous to being saved. They are not new or other in the sense that they are some made up language or babbling or something that sounds like Kingon or anything weird. If you speak Spanish before you are saved, you will still speak Spanish after you are saved. But you have a new spirit now, with a love for the Lord and for others.

The Bible also talks about people speaking in an unknown tongue. This does not mean that people speak in a supernatural gibberish language that is not common to earth. Rather, it means that a saved person is speaking the good things about God and sharing the gospel, and from the perspective of an unsaved person, this is an unknown. They do not understand the gospel, so to them it is an unknown language.

Paul wants people to understand the gospel and to be saved, so he says to pray that the people listening will understand, that the spirit will interpret the gospel into their hearts, so that they will be saved.

Paul would rather speak a very few words to someone that they understand to convert them to salvation, than to speak a large number of words to someone and they are still unconverted.

So, don't worry, if you are saved, because if you are you already are speaking in new tongues, in other tongues even though it is the same tongue (of English in your case and mine).

Finally, I might note that people love to bring up Pentecost in relation to speaking in tongues. They think that the spirit suddenly gave some people the ability to speak in languages of other countries that they never could speak before. Like if I always speak English but suddenly the spirit gives me the ability to speak Lithuanian. Further, the reason for this would be because there were a bunch of Jewish people from all over the world standing by at least one of which was Lithuanian. And he heard me and marvelled. This is fun-sounding, and it's not that God can't do this, but the thing that is overlooked, in my opinion, is that the Bible is written in parable form (Psalm 78:1-2, Mark 4:34). Jews on the day of Pentecost in the Acts scripture are called Jews because they are a picture of saved persons. When the spirit causes others to be saved by the outpouring of the spirit, they marvel in that others understand about God as they do. It is not about someone speaking a new international language supernaturally. It is rather about those who become saved can share in their normal language with others, particularly those from their own language area, since they too are now saved.