What can you do if you’re a non-elect?

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Nehemiah6

Nehemiah6

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selahsays said:
First of all, don’t study Calvinism; study the Bible. Dig out the truth on your own. Ask God to help you; He will.
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And when you study the Bible you will discover that Calvinism or TULIP or Reformed Theology is presenting a FALSE GOSPEL from start to finish. Just one verse in John chapter three will refute this nonsense.
 
MikeF

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Burn1986 said:
According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell?

What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect?

Should non-elects be put to death?
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While it is true that God predestines some to heaven, I personally don’t believe in double pre-destination, meaning that God predestines some to hell. While the elect are empowered by the Holy Spirit to believe, those who are ultimately damned are damned I believe by their free choice to reject salvation. God doesn’t tell us who the elect are, so we are to preach the gospel to all mankind. When God gives the effectual call, the elect will definitely respond with saving faith, but like I said, we don’t know who the elect are. So we give the gospel to everyone, even if they ultimately reject it!
 
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MikeF said:
While it is true that God predestines some to heaven, I personally don’t believe in double pre-destination, meaning that God predestines some to hell. While the elect are empowered by the Holy Spirit to believe, those who are ultimately damned are damned I believe by their free choice to reject salvation. God doesn’t tell us who the elect are, so we are to preach the gospel to all mankind. When God gives the effectual call, the elect will definitely respond with saving faith, but like I said, we don’t know who the elect are. So we give the gospel to everyone, even if they ultimately reject it!
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Read post #3
 
Lynx

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MikeF said:
While it is true that God predestines some to heaven, I personally don’t believe in double pre-destination, meaning that God predestines some to hell. While the elect are empowered by the Holy Spirit to believe, those who are ultimately damned are damned I believe by their free choice to reject salvation. God doesn’t tell us who the elect are, so we are to preach the gospel to all mankind. When God gives the effectual call, the elect will definitely respond with saving faith, but like I said, we don’t know who the elect are. So we give the gospel to everyone, even if they ultimately reject it!
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'Allo Mike me lad, and welcome to the forum.

These predestination threads have been popping up like mushrooms the last few days. Most of them are in Bible Discussion Forum but a few sprouted in other forums.
 
Lynx

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Burn1986 said:
This was really directed at the Calvinists whacks.
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Yes... Yes, we could tell that. Yes, it was quite evident.

There have been a LOT of these threads directed at the Calvinist whacks lately. And a lot of threads have recently been started by the whacks too.
 
hornetguy

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Would a Calvanist whack be considered out of whack, or in whack?
These spiritual discussions get so confusing......
 
Lynx

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hornetguy said:
Would a Calvanist whack be considered out of whack, or in whack?
These spiritual discussions get so confusing......
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I picked up a few extra cans of whack at Walmart the other day. It's on the next aisle past the elbow grease, just to the left of the headlight fluid. If the Calvinist is out of whack I can help a brother out.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Just ignore all this nonsense. If you have heard the Gospel, repented and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, and receive Him as you Lord and Savior, then you are justified by grace through faith. And anyone and everyone can respond to and obey the Gospel. "Whosoever" means whosoever.
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I'm partially Calvinist, Arminian, and Provisionist, and, even in my experience, if we wait around all day to become elect, we might be sorely disappointed. Been there, done that. Very wise answer, Brother!
 
selahsays

selahsays

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Burn1986 said:
According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell?

What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect?

Should non-elects be put to death?
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….but what would make a person a non-elect?
 
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Burn1986

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Nehemiah6 said:
Just ignore all this nonsense. If you have heard the Gospel, repented and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, and receive Him as you Lord and Savior, then you are justified by grace through faith. And anyone and everyone can respond to and obey the Gospel. "Whosoever" means whosoever.
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Yep, stated this thread to be sarcastic. Now it looks like it come around to bite me in the b-tt.
 
Lynx

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Burn1986 said:
Yep, stated this thread to be sarcastic. Now it looks like it come around to bite me in the b-tt.
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These predestination threats always do. No matter how blatant you try to make the sarcasm, some people will take it seriously and start arguing with you.
 
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