Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"
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Anyway, as I started to share a thought that occurred to me but I'm not sure this is the right place in order to keep it relevant to the topic...
but on further thought, it is relevant...
If I had not known up until now exactly why it occurred to me exactly why saying anything like, "g*d--mned such and such" would be offensive toward God where it might not seem that it should be if indeed God had damned any such and such.
would it be more 'politically' (my repertoire in vocabulary has great needs) correct to fight against these erroneous expletives by expressing such thought as, "no, but bob- (or Joe or Sue) damned it." That is, self-damned people.
but on further thought, it is relevant...
If I had not known up until now exactly why it occurred to me exactly why saying anything like, "g*d--mned such and such" would be offensive toward God where it might not seem that it should be if indeed God had damned any such and such.
would it be more 'politically' (my repertoire in vocabulary has great needs) correct to fight against these erroneous expletives by expressing such thought as, "no, but bob- (or Joe or Sue) damned it." That is, self-damned people.
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Okay, even though you offered psuedo-answers to my question, which you here escape by implying it was a fake question, which is somewhat insulting to me, I'll answer your 'real' question... because I believe the truth is worth repeating.
re: Eph 2:*
Firstly, I've been saved by grace, in which a gift is characteristically given. Nobody ever says of anyone, "he graciously allowed me to pay for my meal."
Secondly, that is through this, faith. And that is, that I have been saved, and that not of myself; it is the gift of God.
re: Php 1:29 is letting believers know that suffering with Him will accompany believing in Him and this is granted on behalf of Christ as much as your righteousness is also granted on His behalf, as Abraham's righteousness is, through faith.
re: Act 18:27 those who had believed through grace, are seen as those who believed in the grace of God that would go as far as to extend salvation to them through faith in Christ.
re: Eph 2:*
Firstly, I've been saved by grace, in which a gift is characteristically given. Nobody ever says of anyone, "he graciously allowed me to pay for my meal."
Secondly, that is through this, faith. And that is, that I have been saved, and that not of myself; it is the gift of God.
re: Php 1:29 is letting believers know that suffering with Him will accompany believing in Him and this is granted on behalf of Christ as much as your righteousness is also granted on His behalf, as Abraham's righteousness is, through faith.
re: Act 18:27 those who had believed through grace, are seen as those who believed in the grace of God that would go as far as to extend salvation to them through faith in Christ.
I also don’t believe in limited atonement.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
- John 3:16-17
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
- John 3:16-17
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Right. Everyone who:
-responds in repentance to the call of the Lord
-and everyone who asks
-and everyone who is thirsty and drinks freely
-and everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord
-and everyone who picks up their axe head
is appointed to the gift of salvation and gift of saving faith through the gift of grace.
Because God is omnibenevolent, good, always good and gives good gifts even to the undeserving and unjust and unbelieving.
Mat 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Rom 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Just to let you know, your perception of time, your perception of cause and effect, your perception of sequence and motion as regards events.....
Does not necessarily apply to the Lord God Who is outside of time and created time.
-responds in repentance to the call of the Lord
-and everyone who asks
-and everyone who is thirsty and drinks freely
-and everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord
-and everyone who picks up their axe head
is appointed to the gift of salvation and gift of saving faith through the gift of grace.
Because God is omnibenevolent, good, always good and gives good gifts even to the undeserving and unjust and unbelieving.
Mat 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Rom 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Just to let you know, your perception of time, your perception of cause and effect, your perception of sequence and motion as regards events.....
Does not necessarily apply to the Lord God Who is outside of time and created time.
Where is that rule of debate in the Bible, Mr. Sola Scriptura. Or where is that rule of debate anywhere stated.
This is what comes up when I Google "What is the first rule of debate?"
He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate. So, what you asserted, can you prove?
NightTwister said:
No idea where you got that idea. It's not accurate. 99% of the arguments against reformed doctrine (which I prefer to call it) are Strawmen.
This is what comes up when I Google "What is the first rule of debate?"
He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate. So, what you asserted, can you prove?
NightTwister said:
No idea where you got that idea. It's not accurate. 99% of the arguments against reformed doctrine (which I prefer to call it) are Strawmen.
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