Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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Cameron143

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Nehemiah6 said:
Unfortunately at this time in history, no one resembles those who stood against tyranny in the 18th century. As a matter of fact there are more traitors in the USA than patriots. So the 2nd Amendment is doing no one any good. The whole Constitution has been thrown away. Even vandalized.
US Constitution encasement vandalized with red powder at National Archives
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/us/constitution-encasement-vandalized-powder-climate/index.html
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We're along way from done. The tide is turning. Sometimes things need to be taken from people for a time for their value to be realized. The good guys always win in the end.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The 2nd Amendment is what ensures all the other rights. Take it away and the rest will soon follow.
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Your 1st amendment rights of free speech, press, assembly and free association are the wisest tools to use to protect our 2nd amendment rights. :) But yes, the 1st and 2nd amendments are the co-pillars of our God given freedoms. (y)
 
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gb9 said:
so, it seems that haystack news shows different news stories from multiple sources.

so, my guess would be it is from mostly left leaning media, so by default you do watch mainstream media, so there is that...
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So are you saying that right leaning media Is the correct media to watch and left leaning media Is the wrong media to watch?
IMO whether they are pro choice or whether the leader of their party Is Immoral( cheated on his wife while she was pregnant) and a liar they both are bad and no one can say that one Is worse than the other and be taken serious.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
So are you saying that right leaning media Is the correct media to watch and left leaning media Is the wrong media to watch?
IMO whether they are pro choice or whether the leader of their party Is Immoral( cheated on his wife while she was pregnant) and a liar they both are bad and no one can say that one Is worse than the other and be taken serious.
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" right leaning " media tells more actual truth that the " left wing " does.
 
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gb9 said:
" right leaning " media tells more actual truth that the " left wing " does.
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You should definitely get news from a range the sources. Some stories take two sides to get the picture. Most legacy media (abc/nbc/cbs) just give crumbs of the most basic news. PBS News Hour will give the most comprehensive general news (no commercial ad time), though it trends Dem party partisan perspective.

Fox/msnbc/cnn have some shows with guests that give a little more, but it's mostly opinion, hit piece, insult, partisan, echo-chamber, junk food. A myriad of online sources (most you can find on youtube) give deeper comprehensive news and long-form interviews of subject experts (Jordan Peterson/Joe Rogan/Tucker Carlson). Not to mention youtube is a world library on every subject.

For instance, Frontline has some detailed docs on subjects like "Democracy on Trial (full documentary) | FRONTLINE" that digs into the details of what Trump and colleagues did regarding Trump asking GA Sec of State to find votes and Jan 6 behavior. Forbes youtube channel has all lengths of important congressional hearings. A number of online/youtube sources will give details/interviews on the important Matt Taibbi' Twitter Files detailing how the Biden Admin/state apparatus asked Twitter, Facebook, etc to kill/censor stories (Hunter laptop pay-to-play, COVID issues) that Biden admin didn't like. Glenn Greenwald is always on top of buried issues (famously US State global surveillance/Edward Snowden. Democracy Now has always done a good job with traditional buried news.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The 2nd Amendment is what ensures all the other rights. Take it away and the rest will soon follow.
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I've said this a billion times here but I guess I can make it a billion and one.
Repealing the second amendment would require a majority Senate and House vote .
This is about as likely to happen as my marrying Oprah Winfrey, winning the lottery, being inducted into the NBA, and being struck by lightning 22 times in one day
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
So are you saying that right leaning media Is the correct media to watch and left leaning media Is the wrong media to watch?
IMO whether they are pro choice or whether the leader of their party Is Immoral( cheated on his wife while she was pregnant) and a liar they both are bad and no one can say that one Is worse than the other and be taken serious.
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Ms Daniels signed her name to a document where she said the relationship never took place. Now she testified and says she did. So who's the liar, yes, Ms Daniels.
 
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Dude653 said:
I've said this a billion times here but I guess I can make it a billion and one.
Repealing the second amendment would require a majority Senate and House vote .
This is about as likely to happen as my marrying Oprah Winfrey, winning the lottery, being inducted into the NBA, and being struck by lightning 22 times in one day
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Sorry Dude, but innocent people have lost their freedoms in countries they never thought was possible.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
So are you saying that right leaning media Is the correct media to watch and left leaning media Is the wrong media to watch?
IMO whether they are pro choice or whether the leader of their party Is Immoral( cheated on his wife while she was pregnant) and a liar they both are bad and no one can say that one Is worse than the other and be taken serious.
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Depends on how important you think the murder of the unborn is.
 
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montana123 said:
People are deceived by Donald Trump and do not understand his true intentions.

It is time for a one world government, and to establish the new age movement in the world replacing the current belief system, and even that of Science.

Which the believe aliens are going to help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve, which they talk about the return of the gods.

Which the United Nations supports new age organizations, and is with them as well as Science.

Which Science says humans are not from the earth, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

Science is going to make all things compatible with the new age movement beliefs, and reality.

But they will not mention following them for they want people to believe that all things are coming from them, and say they are having new discoveries, and new findings, that is giving them a new perspective of history, evolution, the Bible, the universe, the conscious, the origins of people, among other things to make all things compatible with the new age movement.

Which the new age movement believes in evolution but they do not believe humans evolved from Apes although they are of the lineage of Apes, but they did not evolve from Apes, and broke off from them about 7 million years ago.

They do not believe in evolution is the Darwinian sense, and they believe people are going to evolve to be spiritual when the New Age Christ starts working in the world.

Science will take that evolutionary position saying new discoveries caused them to have a new perspective of evolution.

They will also embrace the Bible as truth, and want people to embrace the Bible as truth, but they will give forth the new age movement perspective of the Bible saying they have evidence that gives them a new perspective of the Bible, and people have been interpreting the Bible wrong for many years.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are actually working together towards the new age movement agenda.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but he became a Republican president to increase the fighting between the political parties, and to gain the trust, and support of the Republicans, and to convince them do accept things that are compatible with the changes that are going to be made for they are the most stubborn.

And to make the Republicans look bad.

Joe Biden was put in place to appear incompetent., and to make bad decisions to make the Democrats look bad.

For they are going to do away with both political parties.

America and Russia have been working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces of the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system a balance between atheist and spirituality, and their higher power the God of forces, or the power of nature, with all religions interpreted by the new age movement.

Donald Trump is not the person the Republicans believe He is but he is actually trying to deceive them, and wants to be accused of certain behavior, and character, that is not good, for then it reflects on his followers.

They are pointing out a lot about narcissistic personality, and people who do not have empathy for other people, on the internet, with article after article.

This is because the harmonization process has begun to cause the people to stop exalting themselves above other people, and to care for them because the one world government will work for peace on earth.
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Wrong forum...
 
Cameron143

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Dude653 said:
I've said this a billion times here but I guess I can make it a billion and one.
Repealing the second amendment would require a majority Senate and House vote .
This is about as likely to happen as my marrying Oprah Winfrey, winning the lottery, being inducted into the NBA, and being struck by lightning 22 times in one day
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I was simply stating a fact, not making a prediction. And thanks for your longsuffering.
 
maxwel

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Dude653 said:
I've said this a billion times here but I guess I can make it a billion and one.
Repealing the second amendment would require a majority Senate and House vote .
This is about as likely to happen as my marrying Oprah Winfrey, winning the lottery, being inducted into the NBA, and being struck by lightning 22 times in one day
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No one is concerned about 2A being overtly repealed, that's a straw man.
- People are concerned that it will be pruned and snipped, here and there, gradually, through ever increasing regulations, until it's eventually just impotent.
- People are concerned that 2A, like freedom of speech, eventually dies by "death from a thousand cuts."

This is the concern, and this is the course we see the left continually pressing.

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Ms Daniels signed her name to a document where she said the relationship never took place. Now she testified and says she did. So who's the liar, yes, Ms Daniels.
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I never heard of this😳Do you have an unbiased source?Thanks.
 
maxwel

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seed_time_harvest said:
I see what you mean but when It comes to God does God see a difference In pro choice and a pathological liar?
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Is there a difference between lying and murder?
Are they really equal?

Before you try to spiritualize this, to circumvent the argument, let's make it simpler:
Hypothetically: would you rather be lied to, or murdered?

That should clear up the moral dilemma.

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Nehemiah6 said:
Unfortunately at this time in history, no one resembles those who stood against tyranny in the 18th century. As a matter of fact there are more traitors in the USA than patriots. So the 2nd Amendment is doing no one any good. The whole Constitution has been thrown away. Even vandalized.
US Constitution encasement vandalized with red powder at National Archives
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/us/constitution-encasement-vandalized-powder-climate/index.html
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Then it's time for a rebirth of reverence for the founding principles. There is some evidence that there may be some beginnings in that area.
 
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