Poll Regarding Paul & Romans 7

Yes, we are set free from the sinful nature by the circumcision of Christ, raised from the dead with Him to life with Him. We no longer are "in the flesh" but "in the Spirit" because "the Spirit of God dwells" in us. All this is true.

But this truth comes hand-in-glove with another truth... "If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. " (Ro 8:10 NASB).

Now that your Sinful Nature has been "cut out and permanently removed", where do think your sins come from?

Well, one thing we know is this: The source of evil certainly isn't Satan, for the defeat of Satan is the Purpose of Christ in his First Advent.

Once the Power of Satan has been pulled from the new believer, they will undergo the process of Sanctification. If the Devil is no longer the motivating factor to produce evil fruit, the only other option is that a person is being sanctified of their knowledge of evil, and their behaviors begin to over time, sometimes quickly (like Saul to Paul), and then others take more time, particularly considering their circumcstances.

Paul grew quickly because he had genuine Christians surrounding him. But if a person is Powerfully Saved by the Spirit, yet they do not have influences in their life who can explain what God has done and is doing in their life, their Transformation can take significantly more time.

11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
13 For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it. 14 And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, 16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days. 19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. 20 (Now concerning the things which I write to you, indeed, before God, I do not lie.)
21 Afterward I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia. 22 And I was unknown by face to the churches of Judea which were in Christ. 23 But they were hearing only, “He who formerly persecuted us now preaches the faith which he once tried to destroy.” 24 And they glorified God in me.

[The New King James Version (Ga 1:10–24). (1982). Thomas Nelson.]

Our minds. How does a man just stop appreciating his old sexual lifestyle? He can't. The only way to get past these thoughts and feelings is by and through the Power of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

I cheated and looked ahead to the next chapter, Romans 8! This is why I voted for the second choice:
✔️ He Was Describing His Former Life Before Jesus Found Him On The Damascus Road


Romans 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

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Romans 8:10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.


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Paul begins his subject in verse 1 with Do you not know brethren -for I am speaking to those who know the law- and his subject is about the effect of the law upon our natural state, that is knowing the law but as yet not saved.

You cannot believe that Paul the Apostle was a slave to sin, that when he desired to do good he did instead that which is evil. Saul of Tarsus thought he was doing good and serving God when he was persecuting the church but he was doing evil.

Paul not only preached dominion over sin he lived it. Folks use this scripture to excuse their backsliding, if we are caught in some sin it is best to be honest about it and seek deliverance and victory .... shame should be taken out of this. We ARE human, we ARE frail.

The greatest weapon against backsliding is good wholesome doctrine.

's long as folk believe in the doctrine of human freewill they will sin. It is a morass, a breeding ground for sin. It is the debate zone

we are tempted, we think "shall I/shall I not? I want to, God says no, but I still want to " BANG we are doing it.

And that is the way the law works which should show you that living according to human freewill is trying to obey the law.

Paul teaches that we are dead to sin and so consequently dead to the law.

Paul learnt to be content in any and all circumstances so he is not describing the Christian life. It is understandable to struggle initially in the Christian life for it is a new and living way and we must learn how to walk by means of the Spirit, but it is not a life in which we should find ourselves constantly struggling till the day we die.

Phil.4:12-13
12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength.

The great struggle we are engaged in is not against sin but it is the grand old fight of faith. To BELIEVE that the victory has been won for us and we can receive it by a miracle of grace.

We were designed to live yoked to God by the Holy Spirit. We can't live god's righteousness without being yoked to Him.o Holy Spirit will do that to a man. It is not good for man to be alone.

If Paul was living for Christ when he wrote Philippians, does this mean that he wasn't living for Christ in Romans 7?

Philippians 1:21 NLT - "For to me, living means living for Christ, and dying is even better.”

If Paul was sinfully out of control in Romans 7, then it is 100% impossible for him to acknowledge, at that time, that he was living for Christ. Anyone who calls out of a Savior couldn’t possibly be living for Christ. He even states that the Law brought him death. How could Paul, if he was Spiritually dead, be living for Christ?

Great question

Paul on the road to Damascus, saw Jesus Alive on that road and heard Jesus say to him why art thou persecuting mer, I am alive.
Paul blinded by such a bright light went into the town and got healing from another person in belief to God as well.
Then I read in Galatians, how Paul was missing for two years in the Arabian desert.
I asked what was Paul doing?
I hear, heard this
Paul was being retrained to see new and let go of Law to do=, that he could not do in the flesh nature at all, not literally ever as no one could or can to this day, according to God. If anyone could or even can now today, then God's Son went the cross for us all in vain and will not flow through anyone's veins, by his being raised from the dead as seen by over 500 witnesses back then.

Modernizing this:
Paul saw a chalk board with an eraser and a piece if chalk there. God says to Paul see that chalk board with all that writing on it. That is your life from birth to the present right now.
Paul says okay, what next? God says see that eraser? Paul says yes! God says erase your life all of it on that chalk board. Everything
Paul does that, then God says pick up that chalk and write as I tell you to write

Paul learned new and wrote this to su the people from Jail. About the new life. Therefore we have as EX: Philippians, reading it from Chapter one especially verse 6. Paul became confident in God's lead overs first taught lead by Gamaliel under Law to do to get. He saw, sees he cannot do it, no one can and need God to lead them and that can only be done in anyone if willing, to be led by God
God will do the for anyone that is serious about knowing God as God is the one and only one that knows who are and who are not
So, Paul shares in Romans 6, 7, 8 about this. Romans 1-2 introducing truth, 3-5 telling truth, 6-8 retelling it in a different way
For us to get it. Then seeing what he says in Philippians 3 about anyone that wants to go flesh efforts and think they got it better than others (Luke 18:9-14) he states he himself had gotten it better than anyone else ever. Being a Pharisee of the tribe of Benjamin. To let go of all that in order to win truth of Christ the risen one for him and you all too. No longer under any Law, now by grace the sees to just love all, not a few did
Thanks trusting this helps you in your walk here on earth in belief to God too

Hmmm. Well, it seems to me that the passage is very clear and straightforward, which is that God Loves the Jewish Nation; a specific people called the circumcision.