Predestination is misunderstood...

Well ive decided to become a true believer of what Jean Calvin was trying to tell us. 🙂

Im sure jean Calvin would of said this

because they where willing and they heard the message,.they responded because the life was already in those people of nineveh, and so they where able to repent when they heard the message.

As I've worked out jean Calvin also heard from the lord to, Because hes on record for saying Don't question God's authority,.. So he may have had the common sense to say,. When you hear a command then follow.

I.also recall Jean Calvin saying be concerned by God's good intension only.

Seems fitting he would say this ,really, and more fitting he never wrote tulip.

Now the lord said dont say thank God I'm not like that man.

I like @John146. We've had a number of nice discussions. He's always been pleasant. But what he stated wasn't accurate.

Not when you went outside the book of Jonah to explain away the clear and simple reading. I’m not willing to change the words to fit a certain narrative. I’d rather change the narrative to fit the words of scripture.

Lol well thank God your like that lol 🙂

Which is an argument style of implying I don't and you are on the high moral ground. There is nothing wrong with comparing scripture with scripture.

I actually think you've got the making to be a true believer of what Jean calvin actually said 🙂.

Didn’t mean to imply that brother. I just meant to say the book of Jonah is pretty straight forward. God didn’t lie, he repented. He changed his mind when Nineveh believed.

I earnestly don't care what Calvin said. I think he got many things right and some things wrong. I try to integrate good teaching and practices wherever I find them, and learn from the mistakes of others so I don't repeat them.

I found another Jean Calvin quote 🙂

I wonder was he a philosopher

In loving memory of Jean Calvin died 1554





John Calvin Quotes. We should ask God to increase our hope when it is small, awaken it when it is dormant, confirm it when it is wavering, strengthen it when it is weak, and raise it up when it is overthrown. There is not one blade of grass, there is no color in this world that is not intended to make us rejoice.

I don't really want to rehash the discussion, but I did share an alternative explanation. And I wasn't offended. We've had enough discussions for me to know you are principled, but the way we contend for the faith is important as well.

not even a little bit

. I'm sure you'll be ok soon brother. 🙂



How about this quote,

This one really makes you wonder if John Calvin had anything to do with tulip at all

I agree with it.

Agree with this too.

This completely confirms John Calvin had no part with tulip

John Calvin Quotes. "We should ask God to increase our hope when it is small, awaken it when it is dormant, confirm it when it is wavering, strengthen it when it is weak, and raise it up when it is overthrown."

That seems to be praying against God's will, if you are an exhaustive divine determinist.

"There is not one blade of grass, there is no color in this world that is not intended to make us rejoice. It sounds like Jean Calvin believed God's intentions can be thwarted.

lol I'll have you converted to a true calvin before to long 🙂

I already agree in large part with the reformed faith.