Who and what are the two beast of Revelation 13 and mark 666?

Maybe you should rethink your career choice.

I don't plan on being part of the clergihood or a theologian.

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“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:

and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

…Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 9-10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:

for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Hey brother, I had a slow night at work last night and was able to do some quality meditation on Gog/Magog and how they may fit into the beast's (Satan's) empire during the last days, and these verses kept ringing in my thoughts:

Revelation 13:7-9

New King James Version

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every [a]tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.

The literal interpretation for this is straight-forward. The beast will have authority over the entire world and will even be worshipped. This charismatic yet crooked despot under the power of the devil will rule the world for a short time, and even current hostile nations of the West like China, Russia, and Iran could unite under this facade of a peaceful and prosperous world order for all nations to enjoy.

I've been in industry for over 35 years, and it wasn't that long ago that we here in the U.S. had a great trade arrangement and relationship with both China and Russia. We were encouraged (and even forced in some cases) as automotive buyers to source as much business as possible with China if there was a substantial cost savings, and Russian steel was a hot commodity. Money can bring the worst of enemies together for at least a short time if it benefits the "partnerships". How quickly that can all fall apart when circumstances change (e.g. current state relationship between the U.S. and China/Russia).

The U.N. makes much more sense to me now as the beast's potential organizing entity that he can coerce with charisma and deception. The devil will be pulling all of his old tricks out of the bag during the short power/prosperity the beast will have during the tribulation.

Hey brother, I had a slow night at work last night and was able to do some quality meditation on Gog/Magog and how they may fit into the beast's (Satan's) empire during the last days, and these verses kept ringing in my thoughts:

Revelation 13:7-9

New King James Version

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every [a]tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.

The literal interpretation for this is straight-forward. The beast will have authority over the entire world and will even be worshipped. This charismatic yet crooked despot under the power of the devil will rule the world for a short time, and even current hostile nations of the West like China, Russia, and Iran could unite under this facade of a peaceful and prosperous world order for all nations to enjoy.

I've been in industry for over 35 years, and it wasn't that long ago that we here in the U.S. had a great trade arrangement and relationship with both China and Russia. We were encouraged (and even forced in some cases) as automotive buyers to source as much business as possible with China if there was a substantial cost savings, and Russian steel was a hot commodity. Money can bring the worst of enemies together for at least a short time if it benefits the "partnerships". How quickly that can all fall apart when circumstances change (e.g. current state relationship between the U.S. and China/Russia).

The U.N. makes much more sense to me now as the beast's potential organizing entity that he can coerce with charisma and deception. The devil will be pulling all of his old tricks out of the bag during the short power/prosperity the beast will have during the tribulation.

yeah I like what you wrote in this one it’s a good one to reflect and consider

i really think the technology we have in modern days also is something that needed to happen before the end for some of it to make sense and also o believe fully that Islam is a real player and the worlds opinion of Israel currently if it’s at all going to be in my life it would be happening pretty soon and of course we can see things line up but maybe they can in every generation see some of the signs because we’re meant to live as if it’s imminent and going to be soon so we live more ready and as if it’s real

It’s easy get overwhelmed with earthly life when we’re young and have families and jobs and a life to the point we aren’t really aware of things happening in tbe world around us through a biblical insight . I say this because I remember times in my life that it describes me

forget to even pray sometimes or study at all back in the old days and was so in the dark about biblical matters not even considering them believing them always for certain bit often not really having them as a priority or as if it’s all true and real and close and ready to happen soon someday

Of course not to a panic state but to a live upright and be ready state . Don’t do that old evil but do that new good kind of way sort of waking up from a slumber sort of way

Or rising from the dead sort of way. Maybe everyone in every generation sees earthquakes and eclipses and hears of wars and rumors of wars and maybe nations have always fought against nations ect

Im not sure that makes sense eventually it’s all coming to pass but maybe also there’s a design to it so we live as if Jesus is coming soon so we need to look at it this way through Gods true and saving grace

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;

who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

maybe the whole design of the gospel is meant to move us to action as we hear and believe so we live life as if he’s truly with us because he really is ….

“The U.N. makes much more sense to me now as the beast's potential organizing entity that he can coerce with charisma and deception”

yes privately I’m totally on board with the same thinking brother the u.n.s stance against Israel really since it was formed tells me a lot and just looking at the movements across the world currently in some of those nations against Christianity and also the Jewish people im general as it has been perpetually in tbe world for so very long against them

It seems to me the world is moving rapidly and against Israel in tbe generwl public opinions regarding the current conflict in Gaza there are nations that have never been against them starting to now turn against them . Plus irans proxy arms and terror cells throughout the e tire Middle East have to be part of it all as well isis Hamas ect ect

the reason is say Islam is tbier charter and tbier position that God “absolutely has no son and Jesus didn’t die for anyone else’s sins or rise from the deed …. they consider it blasphemy to believe Christianityas well as the vastly growing Islamic population and sects of the religion also around the world in many many nations

notice the mass I checked migrations across America and Europe and the mass protests against Israel in America and Europe wherever Islam comes to take power and populate hate against Jews and Christianity comes behind it

I appreciate your openness and honesty, brother:

Matthew 24:44

New King James Version

44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Yeah, Islam is one of the great lies the enemy has over the Arab and Persian people. In 2012, after the mullahs were exposed as puppets for the government in Iran a new cry was heard by many Iranians: "We are Iranians!" This contrasted the typical cry of support for Muhammad and the Qur'an. This trend, removing oneself from Islam, has been increasing ever since. Just recently, some prominent imams publicly voiced their concern for the young people leaving, or not embracing, Islam.

Word on the ground is that many are quietly coming to Christ

i really think the technology we have in modern days also is something that needed to happen before the end for some of it to make sense and also o believe fully that Islam is a real player and the worlds opinion of Israel currently if it’s at all going to be in my life it would be happening pretty soon and of course we can see things line up but maybe they can in every generation see some of the signs because we’re meant to live as if it’s imminent and going to be soon so we live more ready and as if it’s real

You're right, Pilgrim, that technology has helped pave the way for the end times, and I am amazed at how quickly circumstances in our world have changed from where we were just a few short years ago. It reminded me of the verse from Daniel:

Daniel 12:4

New King James Version

4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”

Where industrialized nations were engaging in economic development with countries like China, Taiwan, Vietnam, and even Russia, now the world is preparing for war. Putin is even threatening to use nuclear weapons, and he may be that dumb if he becomes desperate and backed into a corner.

Where we as a race were running "to and fro" to fuel our consumer driven society before Covid, now countries are scrambling "to and fro" to develop arsenals. And, the technology that's being developed to kill one another is staggering. We could be killed by an enemy we don't even see face-to-face if, for example, we are the victim of a drone strike or like those poor souls in Gaza whose car was bombed on the way to feed hungry people.

I was taking a look at this "second beast" from Revelation 13, who is commonly referred to as the "false prophet" in alignment with the beast under Satan's authority, and it's amazing the power that God will allow this "imposter trinity" (as Henry Halley describes them) to have:

Revelation 13:11-14

New King James Version

The Beast from the Earth

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives [a]those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

Halley notes that this "lamb beast is afterward called the "false prophet" (Rev. 16:13, 19:20, 20:10 that is, the pretender lamb." Halley and other sources I've looked at reminded me how much the devil tries to impersonate God, and Jesus warns about this in His Olivet prophecy as well. This second beast has "two horns like a lamb" but speaks like a dragon. While he may appear religious and "good", this beast is clearly exposed to Christians by the doctrine of Satan that will spew from his mouth.

It's amazing that the false prophet "even makes fire come down from heaven." That's been a power that only God Himself has used sparingly in the past (e.g. Sodom and Gomorra, and Elizah calling down fire from heaven on the followers of Baal). Making "an image to the beast" is idolatrous, so this imposter will not fool the elect. Thankfully, this false trinity will only be in power for a short time before Jesus crushes it at His triumphant return.

You're right, Pilgrim, that technology has helped pave the way for the end times, and I am amazed at how quickly circumstances in our world have changed from where we were just a few short years ago. It reminded me of the verse from Daniel:

Daniel 12:4

New King James Version

4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”

Where industrialized nations were engaging in economic development with countries like China, Taiwan, Vietnam, and even Russia, now the world is preparing for war. Putin is even threatening to use nuclear weapons, and he may be that dumb if he becomes desperate and backed into a corner.

Where we as a race were running "to and fro" to fuel our consumer driven society before Covid, now countries are scrambling "to and fro" to develop arsenals. And, the technology that's being developed to kill one another is staggering. We could be killed by an enemy we don't even see face-to-face if, for example, we are the victim of a drone strike or like those poor souls in Gaza whose car was bombed on the way to feed hungry people.

I was taking a look at this "second beast" from Revelation 13, who is commonly referred to as the "false prophet" in alignment with the beast under Satan's authority, and it's amazing the power that God will allow this "imposter trinity" (as Henry Halley describes them) to have:

Revelation 13:11-14

New King James Version

The Beast from the Earth

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives [a]those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

Halley notes that this "lamb beast is afterward called the "false prophet" (Rev. 16:13, 19:20, 20:10 that is, the pretender lamb." Halley and other sources I've looked at reminded me how much the devil tries to impersonate God, and Jesus warns about this in His Olivet prophecy as well. This second beast has "two horns like a lamb" but speaks like a dragon. While he may appear religious and "good", this beast is clearly exposed to Christians by the doctrine of Satan that will spew from his mouth.

It's amazing that the false prophet "even makes fire come down from heaven." That's been a power that only God Himself has used sparingly in the past (e.g. Sodom and Gomorra, and Elizah calling down fire from heaven on the followers of Baal). Making "an image to the beast" is idolatrous, so this imposter will not fool the elect. Thankfully, this false trinity will only be in power for a short time before Jesus crushes it at His triumphant return.

Amen brother fabulous insight and read through thanks for taking the time to share that !!!

Do you think the speaking as a dragon but looking like a lamb is telling us of a massive distortion of Christian doctrine ? Claiming to be of Christ the lamb but the words don’t match the words sound like satans ?

sort of the dragons words might come from here and infiltrate the church ( written 1900 yrs ago )

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

spake as a dragon but looked like a lamb ?

The father of lies seems to be behind the fables . And so is the appearance of a lamb but words of the dragon a false church in the world ? Or rather false doctrine labeled Christianity ?

whoch is that’s the case we’re already in full swing hearing the distortions and denials of the actual words of the lamb

Amen. "The father of lies" loves to twist the truth. Look at his twisted-technique that he tried on Jesus:

Matthew 4:5-7

New King James Version

5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:

‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”

Satan quotes from Psalm 91 but takes these verses out of context to tempt Jesus, who would have none of it.

The false prophet ("distortion of Christian doctrine" taken to the next level with this joker) reminds me of the first of the four horsemen of the apocalypse described in Revelation 6:

Revelation 6:2

New King James Version

2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

This is false religion. Note the white horse like Jesus will ride on when He returns (Rev. 19: 11-16), but Jesus will have "many crowns" and unlike the bow from the false Christ, the real Christ will have a "sharp sword that with it He should strike the nations" (v. 15).

Distortion of the gospel and true Christian doctrine has been around since the early Church, and it will be brought to climactic levels by the "imposter trinity" during the tribulation.

Who and what are the two beast of Revelation chapter 13? And what is the number of the beast 666?

Where industrialized nations were engaging in economic development with countries like China, Taiwan, Vietnam, and even Russia, now the world is preparing for war. Putin is even threatening to use nuclear weapons, and he may be that dumb if he becomes desperate and backed into a corner.

agree , and the land of Israel is right in the midst of all of it . Iran calls it ironically a right of fire surrounding Israel with all of its proxies like Hamas and hesbollah and huthis…isis ect those nations around Israel are totally set against her .

It seemed for a moment with the talk of the Abraham accords that there was going to be some sort of peace regarding Israel and some of the influential Arab nations but then before they really became inplimented all the wars and th wars of war in the. Isle east and ukrain and Taiwan North Korea ect began and sort of detailed it then oct 7s attack really basically ended the hopes of it given the Arab nations view of the Israel Palestinian conflict

nationa like quatar turkey Lebanon Yemen iraq Iran Syria ect they are all in agreement with Iran mostly and Iran is russias firm and dedicated ally along with China

So it all really sets itself up against Israel as Iran’s states goal for fourty or so years now that I’ve known and heard of is the end of the existence of Israel as a nation and people on the earth and the ushering in of some pagan diety they worship through Mohammed who thier fabkes tell us eas taken up to heaven from the Temple Mound in Jerusalem where now the Islamic mosque “ dome of the rock “ stands in honor of thier pagan so called diety

seems like an abomination to take the temple mound dedicated for the Israeli temple to honor and serve and meet with the one God through one preisthood . Tear it down and build a mosque honoring another man made pagan diety fable that states “God absolutely has no son “ on this pagan “temple “ standing still today after hundreds of years where jerusalems temple of the bible once stood ….

islam really has to be part of this because of its “anti christ “ foundations . In order to accept Islam you have to deny that Jesus is who the New Testament says he is and that he did what it said he did regarding Mankind’s sins and his resurrection from the dead and also his divine origins and eternal nature being the fulness of the diety bodily in the flesh

that is a heresy and blasphemy to Islam and denies everything they believe after the Torah of Moses.

goven also Islams forever stated war against the Jewish people and tbier religion. As well as against Christianity and our faith and the core of what we believe is blasphemy to Islam it seems exactly opposed to Christ .

its eye opening or was for me to read Islamic prophecy of the future and times. It is as if they are describing the last beasts riegn just before Christ returns and destroyed them

that last part lol they don’t talk about they have a whole other false idea about when Jesus returns lives as a married man and then dies…..but that nonsense doesn’t matter my point is that thier end times prophecy matches ours until Jesus return happens when it differs again

It sets them up to be tbat beast that’s ruling all the world and destroying the saints until the lord returns . Even calls for in those end days beheadings of Christian’s and Jews and any “ infidel “ who won’t immediately convert to Islam and worship thier pagan diety

my thoughts are that Islam absolutely has to be part of the end times if it’s anytime in the near future meaning next few hundred years or days who knows…but the thoughts of a foolish old man with too much time on his hands is only worth what it’s worth also lol

You are far from a "foolish old man" my friend although I do agree that you have too much time on your hands .

What's sad about all of this is the Arab people are brothers to Israel and the Jews. They share a common heritage in their father, Abraham. This family feud has been going on between the two of them for 3000+ years.

"Watch the Middle East" is wise advice and look at what's brewing now. Iran and Israel may end up in all out war soon, and the United States, Britain, and Russia at least will be sucked into this as well.

Islam is certainly a distortion of true religion towards the shared God we worship as Christians, Jews, and Arabs. "Allah" has its roots in the Hebrew "El" for God--our shared God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Of course, Muslims go off track from God's Word, the Holy Bible, and many Muslims view Jesus as a prophet at best. Some hardliners disregard Jesus altogether as you noted.

The most dangerous aspect of Islam is the extremist ideology it can generate. The brutality of the October 7th attacks are hard for the rational mind to comprehend, and that fruitcake leader of Hamas who brushed off the death of his children as martyrs illustrates the brainwashing by Satan that happens when we aren't tied to true religion through the power of the Holy Spirit and theology grounded in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

I think you're on track that Israel could be the powder keg that could erupt the world into WW3 if we're not careful. The tribulation could follow after that, or who knows other than God when that will occur. I read a book of a respected Christian minister who believes Christ's return may not happen for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. I sure hope he's wrong, and I would prefer Jesus to return ASAP to help us clean up the mess we've created on this beautiful planet He blessed us to live on.

Jesus is the only one who can heal the relationship between Abraham's children descended from Isaac and Ishmael. The pain and hatred is too deep seated currently, and this current war will only make the divide wider and deeper. The "two-state" solution is a pipe dream at best. The return of Jesus Christ is the ultimate answer!

Haha way too much brother since I had to retire 😂

But amen he sure is the answer brother that’s a good understanding put simply