Predestination is misunderstood...

It actually does not, it shows who He is, not a tyrant but a gracious loving God.

There is only one way to read the Bible and the "spirit of condemnation and favoritism" is not it.

Wow, even the great A. W. Pink did not understand the story of the sheep and the goats.

Scripture suggests satan fell after the fall of man in two places, its somewhere in scripture , do you know where. I bet you do.

I am pretty sure that the bible states at that time, and this is once again a temporal statement that Calvinists like to give universal application.

It negates the idea that people not yet born were chosen by name by God before the foundation of the world. God chose Christ before the foundation of the world. Whoever (unknown and unnamed at the time Christ was chosen) would accept Christ as their federal head by faith in His death and resurrection and Lordship would become in Christ when they did, and so become a joint-heir with Christ.

Paul is addressing some of those joint-heirs in Ephesus reminding them that the purpose of being in Christ is to become more and more conformed to Christ's image.

I don't believe Satan fell after the fall of man. I believe the references to the serpent in the garden are referring to Satan.

The Jews went against God's decrees. Every human who spends any decent amount of time on the third rock goes against God's decrees. And yet, His will always comes to pass.

Psalm 145:9...The LORD is good to all: and His tender mercies are over all His works.
You don't understand reformed faith. And because you place it beside your understanding, it causes you to err concerning it. To your mind, you can't reconcile that God exercises goodness to all and still remain sovereign in His choices.

I've done nothing but be honest with you, while you have impugned my character all along. Even here you question my integrity.

Grace and peace.

It's not about what you believe. 😊

So, obviously then, not everything that happens is God's will, but those things He has determined to happen, He has ways He can use to ensure they will happen.

I hesitate to answer because I understand this to be your position and I believe the understanding of God's will to be more dynamic. So rather than give an answer that could be construed as dishonest, I'll simply bid you grace and peace.

My vocabulary is good enough. But I have an open mind when need be.
When I sense I am not being given some debaters technique that is not productive.

When introducing a term that is not used commonly, if you wish to use it continuously?
Better define its usage so others can learn.

Others for the most part have no problem communicating with each other here.

The "snob approach" alienates and serves only to impress your self as you build yourself higher with waste.....
It is an instant turn off for me, and must be for others.

Some don't catch on as fast though...
So, I thought I might let others know what they suspect about you is actually true.

Have a nice Day.

I know what a proposition is.... I also know an overuse of a term when it comes walking down the path, and introduces itself in a desire to sell something.

I would rather not learn to use such terms as to alienate some others when communicating in "koine English."

Koine Greek avoided what Attic and Classical Greek would cause with communicating with the common man when the NT was written.
Its why God chose koine as the primary Greek of the NT... though Paul could flip into classical Greek when so moved.

There are to be no self made pedestals in the body of Christ when its operating in the Spirit in communicating truth.
Especially bad when the person attempting to impress others with his vocabulary is not clear in his own thinking.

Have a nice Day...

May I suggest?
Take a gander here...

We all will be EVALUATED..... And, some will suffer loss if they refuse correction now.



1 Corinthians 3:11-15

It all originated from Erasmus, the creator and author behind the text. And he journaled that he took the 10th century Latin Vulgate (Latin Language), which also was "the added to addition" from when Jerome first translated the original Greek into Latin around 320 AD. Erasmus took the 10th century Latin and tried to translate it back to Greek. But Jerome translated from koine Greek to Latin and when Erasmus translated it went from Latin to the modern day version of Greek we have now. And Erasmus wrote this is in no way a true copy of what the Apostles and others wrote.

The poor before the Industrial Revolution were not educated and could not read and write.

Education in the centuries following the birth of Christianity, was the domain of the wealthy.

Papyrus can last for centuries if the environment is favorable, not moist or too dry.

In a dry climate, like that of Egypt, papyrus is stable, and formed as it is of highly rot-resistant cellulose, but storage in humid conditions can result in molds attacking and destroying the material. (wiki)

The Cor. passage is speaking of a person before they are born again. We are born body and soul and need a spirit for that is the part of our being that deals with comprehending spiritual matters. Spirit begets spirit (Jn.3:6) so the Holy Spirit can communicate spiritual matters to us.

The Psalm passage speaks of a Romans 1 type who rejected believing God at the first level of God consciousness. Their conscience becomes so seared they are like a mindless animal when it comes to the things of God. If God was to find a "wise" person who seeks Him, they would be the type who have believed the initial drawing factors eg. God exists, He is good, He is righteous, we are sinners and there is judgement between the two. This is based on the following verses.

Romans 1:19-20
19 because what is known about God is plain to them, since God has made it plain to them. 20 For ever since the creation of the universe his invisible qualities — both his eternal power and his divine nature — have been clearly seen, because they can be understood from what he has made. Therefore, they have no excuse;

John 16:8
“When he comes, he will show that the world is wrong about sin, about righteousness and about judgment

Hebrews 11:6
And without trusting, it is impossible to be well pleasing to God, because whoever approaches him must trust that he does exist and that he becomes a Rewarder to those who seek him out.

It's probably not a good idea to assume that dark ages - pre industrial revolution education standards applied in the first century.