Did God occupy any space before creation?

Genesis should read, “In A beginning.” There are several beginnings in Scripture, but the one that begins the book of John is closer to THE beginning. However, since He is described as having NO beginning or end, it still leaves room for speculation, and as curious creatures, we love to speculate.

Genesis should read, “In A beginning.” There are several beginnings in Scripture, but the one that begins the book of John is closer to THE beginning. However, since He is described as having NO beginning or end, it still leaves room for speculation, and as curious creatures, we love to speculate.

That is correct. In a beginning God created the heavens and the earth. But that does not answer my question.

PaulThomson said:
Where does scripture say God created space ? I don't see that anywhere. I do see that He created things that occupy space: the heavens and the earth..

Genesis should read, “In A beginning.” There are several beginnings in Scripture, but the one that begins the book of John is closer to THE beginning. However, since He is described as having NO beginning or end, it still leaves room for speculation, and as curious creatures, we love to speculate.

That is correct. In a beginning God created the heavens and the earth. But that does not answer my question.

PaulThomson said:
Where does scripture say God created space ? I don't see that anywhere. I do see that He created things that occupy space: the heavens and the earth.

Space sounds quite divine to me.

Space Meriam Webster
definition 4
a
: a boundless three-dimensional extent in which objects and events occur and have relative position and direction
infinite space and time

b
: physical space independent of what occupies it
called also absolute space

What do you mean by "space as we understand it"?

Everything was created by Him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for Him.

I think the term “everthing” encompasses space also.

What do you mean by, "what do you mean"?

Does God have size? If God has size, how big is He? If God has size now, was God always this big?

Everything was created by Him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for Him.

Vacuum -
1: emptiness of space


2a: a space absolutely devoid of matter

Empty -
1a: containing nothing

I think you are pushing it to consider nothing some thing. It is the absence of things.

Space is medium within which everything exists. Does the Bible call the emptiness of space a thing?

Space is not a thing. It is the vacuum of nothingness in which all created things subsist, and in which we live and move and have our being.

Space Meriam Webster
definition 4
a
: a boundless three-dimensional extent in which objects and events occur and have relative position and direction
infinite space and time

b
: physical space independent of what occupies it
called also absolute space

REPLY

Logically Yes, He does have some sort of size. Practically it's a different story.
We are like fish in a bowl contemplating what's outside the bowl.
It's impossible to know this answer until revealed so not sure why you're asking.

1 John 3:2.

This is where we disagree:
Yes, the term "everything" would encompass space when used in a broad, all-inclusive sense. Space is part of the totality of existence and reality, so it is included within the scope of the word "everything."

Space refers to the vast expanse or extension in which all material objects and events occur. It is one of the fundamental aspects or arenas of the universe, along with time, matter, and energy.

So when someone refers to "everything" without any qualifiers or limitations, that broad term by definition includes space, since space is an essential part of the totality of what exists in reality. The only way space would be excluded is if "everything" was explicitly defined or constrained to a more limited domain that specifically omits space.

But in general usage, "everything" casts the widest possible net, encompassing all aspects of existence, including the dimensions and extent of space itself. So in that all-encompassing sense, yes, "everything" absolutely includes and accounts for space.

Does God have size? If God has size, how big is He? If God has size now, was God always this big?

The reason I am asking is because the nature of space is easier to describe than the nature of time, but many people consider the universe to exist within a limited space-time continuum. Such people should be able to countenance that if our universe's space is limited, there must be some space outside the boundaries of our space.

some needed astrophysics vocabulary:

void 0 is the absence of space.
void 1 is empty space.

Yes, exactly. Logic tells you that before the Big Bang there was "something" outside, but this possibility is impossible to verify from our point of view unless revealed by God.

I mean, who is "we" and where did that knowledge come from? And why can "we" be certain that that knowledge is accurate?

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

It sounds like the heavens are a garment God wears on his invisible body of space

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

It sounds like space is not a created thing.

Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

It sounds like God is like space. We live and move and have our being in God. And we live and move and have our being in space.

Space could be God's uncreated invisible body. Astronauts report having a heightened sense of awe when in the vacuum of space.