The Torah is Still Binding and We Must Obey It

Magenta, can you tell us what laws God has written in your heart?

When Jesus spoke to the multitudes, every word spoken was not for all who heard, but a few words spoken were for each person there. I think the laws are the same. If we read the laws, some just seem to automatically match our lifestyle. The rest don't even make sense to us. So your question is a very good one

How many times have we heard preaching and thought this is not to me or for me? And then a sentence is said and it's like, ok, that was for me.

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Here's a covenanted law that suits me just fine.

● Lev 19:32 . . Demonstrate your fear of God by standing up in the presence
of elderly people and showing respect for the aged. I am The Lord.

In the beginning; Adam was made superior to his wife not because of his
gender, rather, because he was the senior of the two. (Gen 3:16 & 1Tim
2:11-13)

Honoring the elders among us carries over to revering God because He too is
an elder among us. God likely doesn't look His age-- except maybe in a
figure of speech, e.g. Dan 7:9 --but we really should keep in mind that He's
among us as not only a better, but also a senior. So we would do well to
step aside for God, carry His bags, and/or hold a door open for Him not only
because he's a deity and a monarch, but also because He's older.
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Many say the laws ... are for the Jews only, there are precedents in the O.T. where strangers could join Israel if they wanted to and follow the law and commandments, and become part of Israel. So it is clear it is for everyone that want to, Jews and gentiles. see Exodus 12:43-51

This is often quoted by Judaizers, who grossly misinterpret the context as you have. Yes, the Law has provision for people who wanted to join with ancient Israel, but you are trying to apply it to a different group of people, for whom the apostles gave only four simple guidelines.

In other words, it doesn't apply.

are you under the new covenant or not at all?

that is your own opinion.

I understand what you say, to me I know most of the mosaic law cannot be followed today but the commandments can. To me and according to scripture the commandments are special given by GOD directly link;

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/the-10-commandments-and-the-law-of-moses.214124/

this is why I want to know where they stand in regards to the covenant.

Many say the laws ( do they include the commandments when they are talking about the law of Moses?) are for the Jews only, there are precedents in the O.T. where strangers could join Israel if they wanted to and follow the law and commandments, and become part of Israel. So it is clear it is for everyone that want to, Jews and gentiles. see Exodus 12:43-51

Jesus sent the disciples to preach the gospel to all the world, including all of his teachings about the commandments so yes all gentiles who believe in Him and His father who sent him are included.

Peace.

that is your own opinion.

that is your own opinion.

This is often quoted by Judaizers, who grossly misinterpret the context as you have. Yes, the Law has provision for people who wanted to join with ancient Israel, but you are trying to apply it to a different group of people, for whom the apostles gave only four simple guidelines.

In other words, it doesn't apply.

As for the old covenant, foreigners, hired servants and sojourners could be part of the old covenant, they could follow the Israelites and live with them if they followed the law of Moses; see exodus 24: 43-51

a mistake last paragraph, see Exodus 12: 43-52 not Exodus 24.

Most people don't even obey the posted speed laws, the stop your vehicle to a complete stop at stop sign laws, the move over when someone is on the shoulder of the road law, but in here acting like they can obey God's 613 laws.

This Thread should be in the joke section.

I could not agree more.

We live in an age where no one and including the legislators of the law itself, even attempt to obey the law.

We all are unrighteous, the path of peace we have never known.

I look in the mirror and I see the real culprit.

The law was not given to show us how. But to show us how we failed.

No one has kept the law. as jesus said, why do you call me good. no one is good but God.

Which happens to be fully consistent with and formulated directly from Scripture.

I am under the New Covenant, i.e., I am a Christian (born again, in Christ).

BTW, selecting a few out-of-context verses from Jeremiah doesn't apply.

Are you under the New Covenant?