2 Years Are Left, and the Two Witnesses Are About to Emerge to the World Anytime Now

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FollowerofShiloh

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As Donald Trump has made the claim that he is the only one who can keep Israel safe,I would say the two witnesses won't arrive in Israel till after Trumps reelection.
The armed forces of the north will arrive in Israel with them .
Do you think Trump is one of the two witnesses?
 
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Sounds just like Trump!




God's Word says it's appointed unto man to die once, speaking of physical death.

Enoch and Elijah are the only 2 people in God's Word we see that never died physically, so these 2 will be the 2 witnesses and they will be killed and left out in the street for a few days while the world celebrates their death

Then the Lord is going to shock the world by raising them from the dead and it's all going to happen on live worldwide television so keep yer popcorn handy!

I know a lot of witnesses who have not died once.Im one of them.
 
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Sounds just like Trump!




God's Word says it's appointed unto man to die once, speaking of physical death.

Enoch and Elijah are the only 2 people in God's Word we see that never died physically, so these 2 will be the 2 witnesses and they will be killed and left out in the street for a few days while the world celebrates their death

Then the Lord is going to shock the world by raising them from the dead and it's all going to happen on live worldwide television so keep yer popcorn handy!
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The gentiles will occupy Jerusalem for 42 months.42 months on the Hebrew calendar is 1260 days.

The two witnesses of Jesus Christ are probably gentiles.Like I said ,keep an open mind or you may not realize their arrival in Israel if you are assuming they are Jews.

Revelation 11

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


The army that will accompany the two witnesses is definitely an army of gentiles.
 

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It is becoming very evident that although the two witnesses of Revelation are now anointed since last year in Nisan 15, that God has not appointed their appearance to the world yet until later in time, in order to give the world a much lesser time of warning, in order to secure their destruction, because of the severe state of evil of the world right now. They do not deserve an ample 3 and 1/2 year warning, which is the time the two witnesses have been appointed to prophesy. The year 6,000 is in 2026 AD, which is the time of the return of Yeshua, and will also be precisely 2,000 years since the anointing of Yeshua in 26 AD. That is why we know the two witnesses are already anointed, because the morning of Nisan 15 in 2023 AD was when the 1,260 days began until the morning of Tishri 6 in 2026 AD, at the 6th trumpet blast, which is when the two witnesses will die. And 3 and 1/2 days later in Tishri 10 they will be resurrected, on Yom Kippur. By the time the two witnesses appear to all humanity and the power of God begins to be revealed to the world through them, it will already be too late for everyone. No one will have time to prepare, except to quickly stop everything they are doing and renounce and forsake all money and obey the commands of the Torah and hope for the continual provision of food and necessities from God. It will be more difficult to come into obedience the longer someone waits to do so. But those who believed beforehand and prepared and stocked up on food and water will not have as much difficulty as those who refused to prepare when they had the chance to. Even most believers have no clue that we are approaching the year 6,000, and do not understand that the Roman succession of popes are the antichrist and that paper money and fiat currency are the mark of the beast of Revelation, which are false weights. It is my opinion that by next year at the latest in 2025 AD the Dome of the Rock will be destroyed by them, and through them the third temple will be constructed there on Mount Moriah. It seems that everything is culminating to the final year before the return of Yeshua, which will be the worst year in the history of humanity. There will be global food and water shortages. There will be global hyperinflation. There will be chaos and riots and looting. And everyone will become severely sick from the pandemic, which will become worse. Aside from what we generally know is going to happen, there are also details that we do not know. We have to wait and see what happens, but be prepared for the worst. I do think it is probable that Donald Trump will win the election in the USA this year in 2024 AD, and through him it is possible that the construction of the third temple will be facilitated. It is also possible that him winning the second term presidency will also cause chaos in Europe, and cause them to unite as a United States of Europe in desperation, by 2026 AD, which we know will happen but we do not know what circumstances will cause 10 nations in Europe to unite. The end is now upon us.
As far as what God has already annointed nisson or whatever how many times has man been able to understand and point to his appointed times?

All throughout scripyuture and history how many times has God spoken but we as mankind took it our own way how many times has history repeated itself how many time has man kind been refered to as self destructive?

We can study the appointed times but so many did this and yet missed his birth he gave us the answer plain and simple he didn't even know he referenced times as a Kewish wedding even the bridegroom knows not the day or hour the father of the bride decides it is fit to retrieve the bride

So a;; this detective work this studying to understand all comes down to if and when the father himself says so His ways were never our ways so you won't be able to predict him until your mind conforms to his ways

Jesus birth was predicted the day and hour over four hundred years prior but these wise men who weren't even jewish understood what no one else did such wisemen exist here in the body but you have tp be truly dedicated to jim not how he works and what holidays or appointed times he has but him himself you cannot for instance accurately plan and predict an enemy or friend if you do not understand them we read and understand his patterns but without knowing him inside and out all this leads to is more cinfusion more questions than answers
 
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I know a lot of witnesses who have not died once.Im one of them.
But, just like everyone else, you will die and soon!

So you will not be one of the 2 witnesses being spoken of in this thread.



keep an open mind or you may not realize their arrival in Israel
Er, all this will be all over the news, carried live so the entire world will know when the 2 witnesses God sends have arrived on scene... they will be speaking on behalf of the Lord so they won't be gentiles.

Gentile means without God, these fellas certainly won't be without God.



The army that will accompany the two witnesses is definitely an army of gentiles.
No, the 2 witnesses won't have any need of a secular army as the Lord will be with them... the angels of the Lord are more than enough to see them thru
 
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But, just like everyone else, you will die and soon!

So you will not be one of the 2 witnesses being spoken of in this thread.





Er, all this will be all over the news, carried live so the entire world will know when the 2 witnesses God sends have arrived on scene... they will be speaking on behalf of the Lord so they won't be gentiles.

Gentile means without God, these fellas certainly won't be without God.





No, the 2 witnesses won't have any need of a secular army as the Lord will be with them... the angels of the Lord are more than enough to see them thru

Scripture does not say God sends the two witnesses of Jesus Christ.
And yes,the two witnesses arrive the same time the army of the gentiles(nations)arrive in Israel.

They arrive 3.5 years before the time of the end which is when this army arrives in Israel.

Daniel 11:31
“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.


Daniel 11:31-12:2 corresponds to the same time period the two witnesses and the gentiles In revelation 11:2-3 occupy Israel.The same 42 months.

Daniel 12:7
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed.”


I agree everyone in the world will notice the arrival of those armed forces.Especially the .Muslims who are told in the Hadith to destroy Dajalls army after the three year drought.They will definitely take notice of their arrival .
 

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No,not Trump
But he could send witnesses to Israel if he is commander in chief.


The United states military has witnesses within its ranks.
Your one post almost seemed like you were saying it could be Trump and why I asked.
 
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Your one post almost seemed like you were saying it could be Trump and why I asked.

Trump said only he can keep Israel safe.If Trump is elected he may well attempt to do just that.He also can send witnesses to Israel as the United states armed forces has witnesses within its ranks.It has very powerful witnesses of Jesus Christ within its ranks.
That was the purpose I provided a link.To give you some perspective of just what kind of witnesses could suddenly appear in Israel in about another year.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-evan...orce-secret-christian-online-ministry-1070772


The kind of witnesses who can smite the earth with all sorts of plagues as often as they want.The kind of witnesses which fire proceeds from their mouths to destroy their enemies.
 

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Trump said only he can keep Israel safe.If Trump is elected he may well attempt to do just that.He also can send witnesses to Israel as the United states armed forces has witnesses within its ranks.It has very powerful witnesses of Jesus Christ within its ranks.
That was the purpose I provided a link.To give you some perspective of just what kind of witnesses could suddenly appear in Israel in about another year.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-evan...orce-secret-christian-online-ministry-1070772


The kind of witnesses who can smite the earth with all sorts of plagues as often as they want.The kind of witnesses which fire proceeds from their mouths to destroy their enemies.
I think if Trump was president now the USA would be doing things completely different than we see how it is now.
 
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I think if Trump was president now the USA would be doing things completely different than we see how it is now.
I'm sure.Biden would never send the United states armed forces into Israel to protect and serve Israel.Trump would.



I kept Israel safe,” he said in a video posted to Truth Social. “Nobody else will, nobody else can, and I know all of the players.” “They can't do it. But I kept Israel safe and I will keep Israel safe.Oct 13, 2023


I don't see anyone saying what Trump would say or any president doing anything that Trump would do.
 

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Enoch isnt one of the witnesses it’s elijah and Moses representing the law and prophets which witness of Christ

what john said of the two olive trees references Zechariah’s vision

“Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? ….Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭4:11, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elijah: who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Moses was given The power tonturn water to blood and to bring plagues on the people and Elijah shut up the sky from rain for three and a half years

These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: ( direct reference to Elijah ) and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, ( direct reference to Moses ) as often as they will.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:4, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Consider that revelation isnt literal bit the imagery represents biblical truth for instance there’s no actuwl lamb with seven eyes and horns who was slain that image is speaking of Jesus and his sacrifice

The two witnesses aren’t actually men nothing in revelation is literal it’s all prophetic imagery based on the law and prophets witness of Christ and the gospel
 
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Scripture does not say God sends the two witnesses of Jesus Christ.
If they are not pointing the world to Jesus Christ... then it's 2 witnesses sent by the devil to put on a side show to entertain everyone, maybe sing some karaoke and tell a few jokes


Enoch isnt one of the witnesses it’s elijah and Moses representing the law and prophets which witness of Christ
There's no scripture to back up Moses being one of the witnesses.

Enoch and Elijah are the only 2 people in scripture that never died physically, so they have to come back and die physically since the Lord did say it's appointed unto each man to die once.



The kind of witnesses who can smite the earth with all sorts of plagues as often as they want.The kind of witnesses which fire proceeds from their mouths to destroy their enemies.
Trump won't have anything to do with this at all, it's the Lord that will be handling this.

Lots of people getting side tracked by politics and fear of what's going on in the world thinking we have to raise someone up to save the US. People doing this don't have the Lord first place in their lives as they are living in fear.

They are really going to be in fear when Trump does not become prez, and some may even kill themselves or end up in the crazy house.
 

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The "two witnesses" are not just two people.


Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, AND the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


"the two olive trees" AND "the two candlesticks"


As you see, the "two witnesses" are two of one thing and two of another.




---------------------one witness---------------second witness------------
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

We have 4 altogether that compose the "two witnesses".
 
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If they are not pointing the world to Jesus Christ... then it's 2 witnesses sent by the devil to put on a side show to entertain everyone, maybe sing some karaoke and tell a few jokes




There's no scripture to back up Moses being one of the witnesses.

Enoch and Elijah are the only 2 people in scripture that never died physically, so they have to come back and die physically since the Lord did say it's appointed unto each man to die once.





Trump won't have anything to do with this at all, it's the Lord that will be handling this.

Lots of people getting side tracked by politics and fear of what's going on in the world thinking we have to raise someone up to save the US. People doing this don't have the Lord first place in their lives as they are living in fear.

They are really going to be in fear when Trump does not become prez, and some may even kill themselves or end up in the crazy house.

Scripture does not say these two witnesses point to Jesus.

Also,scripture does not say the Lord will give Israel a host to abolish the daily sacrifice and place the abomination of desolation.

Keep in mind. Scripture never says the two witnesses do good in Jesus name. They spend 42 months killing and tormenting people.You should not assume Jesus sends these two witnesses to kill when Jesus has never sent anyone to kill.Jesus taught things like do unto others as you would have done unto you or turn the other cheek.


From what I'm seeing,the christians in Israel are persecuted for those 42 months because of their testimony of christ.The two witnesses are not persecuted and are killed because they kill and torment other people.Not because they testify of Jesus.


Last but not least.You won't know if Trump is responsible for sending the armed forces to Israel if you have not been paying attention.Im not sure how you believe Trump would keep Israel safe without doing something like this.
 
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Jesus spoke of his witnesses who are not doing what they should be doing when he comes.If you thought it's good to torment other people and kill other people then you should start reading the gospel more and revelation less.Then you might be able to determine if the two witnesses do good or bad in Jesus name.


Mathew 24
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 

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If they are not pointing the world to Jesus Christ... then it's 2 witnesses sent by the devil to put on a side show to entertain everyone, maybe sing some karaoke and tell a few jokes




There's no scripture to back up Moses being one of the witnesses.

Enoch and Elijah are the only 2 people in scripture that never died physically…….
“There's no scripture to back up Moses being one of the witnesses.”

It’s all the scripture does support bieng the two witnesses in my opinion . i don’t think your willing to hear it but let me try and see if you are willing to hear the scriptures I feel support only those two

This is where we get the whole idea of two witnesses

“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, ( 3 and a half years ) clothed in sackcloth.
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

john is referencing Ezekiel’s vision he doesn’t see the olive trees or witnesses the angel is telling him about them but Ezekiel he saw two olive trees and asked wheat they were

“and said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, ( Jesus ) which are upon the top thereof:

and two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?


Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭4:2-3, 11, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So John is saying “ these are the two standing with Jesus that Ezekiel saw the two annointed ones who stood with the lord of all the earth

When we finally meet the Lord and momentarily glimpse his glory as the Lord of all heaven and earth we see two men standing with him in his glory as a witness

“And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elijah : who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:29-31‬ ‭

Thats one point secondly enoch never had any power to turn water to blood and bring plagues like Moses did and the witnesses, nor the power to shit the sky from rain for three and a half years like Elijah did

your basing everything on the thought “ Enoch didn’t die so therefore he must be a witness there’s no scripture regarding the two witnesses to ever suggest Enoch is one of them and a lot really to say it’s Moses and Elijah

“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: ( Elijah pulled fire from the sky and devoured his enemies ) and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: ( Elijah did this )

and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.”( moses turned water to blood and brought plagues upon Egypt )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


but everyone doesn’t hear the same things and I don’t think it’s the end of the world when we don’t do no offense or malice or anything lol have to try to make that clear around here people get sensitive haha

i just don’t feel as if Enoch really fits in with the two witnesses but what I think and feel doesn’t make it true
 
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“There's no scripture to back up Moses being one of the witnesses.”

It’s all the scripture does support bieng the two witnesses in my opinion . i don’t think your willing to hear it but let me try and see if you are willing to hear the scriptures I feel support only those two

This is where we get the whole idea of two witnesses

“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, ( 3 and a half years ) clothed in sackcloth.
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

john is referencing Ezekiel’s vision he doesn’t see the olive trees or witnesses the angel is telling him about them but Ezekiel he saw two olive trees and asked wheat they were

“and said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, ( Jesus ) which are upon the top thereof:

and two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?


Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭4:2-3, 11, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So John is saying “ these are the two standing with Jesus that Ezekiel saw the two annointed ones who stood with the lord of all the earth

When we finally meet the Lord and momentarily glimpse his glory as the Lord of all heaven and earth we see two men standing with him in his glory as a witness

“And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elijah : who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:29-31‬ ‭

Thats one point secondly enoch never had any power to turn water to blood and bring plagues like Moses did and the witnesses, nor the power to shit the sky from rain for three and a half years like Elijah did

your basing everything on the thought “ Enoch didn’t die so therefore he must be a witness there’s no scripture regarding the two witnesses to ever suggest Enoch is one of them and a lot really to say it’s Moses and Elijah

“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: ( Elijah pulled fire from the sky and devoured his enemies ) and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: ( Elijah did this )

and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.”( moses turned water to blood and brought plagues upon Egypt )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


but everyone doesn’t hear the same things and I don’t think it’s the end of the world when we don’t do no offense or malice or anything lol have to try to make that clear around here people get sensitive haha

i just don’t feel as if Enoch really fits in with the two witnesses but what I think and feel doesn’t make it true
Don't forget the gentiles who occupy Jerusalem for 1260 days.That is a key race of evidence your overlooking.

Revelation 11
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


42 months=1260 days.
 
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Scripture does not say these two witnesses point to Jesus.
If they are not testifying of Jesus Christ then they are satanic and sent by the devil.

There's only two ways to be - for Jesus, or against Him.