The 10 Commandments and the Law of Moses

You are not following the conversation - the post I replied to was in response to a poster claiming the Ten Commandments was only spoken not written, I posted scripture to show otherwise. Everything else you're claiming is conjecture and strawman.

God's ten commandments were FIRST spoken to Israel and the covenant with Israel was ratified by God. Then some time later it was written by Moses and God.

The first covenant between God and Israel was based on the spoken word!

Exodus 20 to Exodus 24, is the foundational covenant.

The tablets of stone were simply a replication of the initial covenant in Exodus 24.

... unfortunately man sinned listened to the other spirit in the Garden instead of obeying God.

it is MEN who counted the Laws and Commandments, that number 613 varies according to different authors, it means nothing.

It is GOD who gave us Himself the 10 Commandments, He wrote them with His own fingers;

IT is GOD who gave us the commandments. It is GOD who wrote them by his hand.

The Commandments are in the Ark of the Covenant to become the Ark of His Testament;

Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Note the name change from Covenant to Testament. Note also in the book of Revelations the chronology of this verse.

The rest of the Mosaic Laws have for core foundation, the 10 Commandments. The 10 Commandments have for core foundation LOVE.

LOVE is the foundation of eternal life.

Peace.

I can only go by what scripture says.

I agree the commandments were first spoken, but scripture indicates they were written right after.

Deut 5: 22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Scripture typically works on repeat and enlarge and it not necessarily in chronological order.

I do agree God's law was given way before God codified it on stone with His own finger. Its the law that defines sin Romans 7:7 and unfortunately man sinned listened to the other spirit in the Garden instead of obeying God.

Adam could have obeyed God, regardless if he listened to Eve, it came from another spirit, not God. God told them both not to eat from the forbidden tree. They both sinned, which is what separated them from God. Isa 59:2

I appreciate your post.

You do agree that the spoken word held the primary place in Exodus 24, excellent.

I do believe you are still confused.

Before Exodus 20, mankind was committing offenses against the fundamental and eternal law. That eternal law was always unconditional love. Only when Jesus arrived did we understand that God's love for us was unconditional.

We do not understand that the law signaled everything that is opposed to unconditional love.

It was not that Cain murdered his brother it was that Cain did not love his brother. The murder itself was the final outcome
of Cain's lack of brotherly love.

Love is above all, God is love, for God so loved the world!

Love is the foundation of the law and is eternal.

God ultimately is defined by His love, His character is love.

The light shone in the darkness and how great was that love.

Yet their sin was not a transgression of the ten commandments.

Adam's sin was direct disobedience to God's instruction regarding, the knowledge of good and evil.

Yet their sin was not a transgression of the ten commandments.

Adam's sin was direct disobedience to God's instruction regarding, the knowledge of good and evil.

Sin is transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7

When Eve coveted the fruit of the forbidden tree, that was breaking commandment # 10. She stole something that didn't belong to her that was breaking commandment #8. She broke the first commandment when she listed to another master instead of placing God first. The principle of scripture you break one commandment, you break them all James 2:10-12

The end result was the same: DEATH

Adam could have obeyed God, regardless if he listened to Eve, it came from another spirit, not God. God told them both not to eat from the forbidden tree. They both sinned, which is what separated them from God. Isa 59:2

That is not in Scripture, either. What becomes apparent is that despite you saying you can only go by what Scripture says, that is simply not true. You make erroneous assumptions and talk as if your assumptions are written in the Bible when they are not. Adam was told what could and could not be eaten before Eve was even made, so who told Eve what we simply do not know. Your "regardless" is another indication you don't really care what Scripture says if it goes against what you have decided is true REGARDLESS of what Scripture actually says. Your version of the truth has Adam being deceived, when according to what is actually written in Scripture, we know he was not deceived.

Please quote where I said Adam was deceived. I never said he was deceived, I said he listed to another spirit when he disobeyed God. Doesn’t matter if that was through Eve or not, when you go against God it means you are with another spirit. Two choices either with God or against Him. Mat 12:20

God told to Adam

Gen:2 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to [e]tend and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

To Eve-

Gen 3: 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

They both knew from God. Eve didn’t say Adam said, she said God said.

Not true.

The disobedience that Adam and Eve had committed ultimately resulted in the death of everyone.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all mankind, because all sinned.

You work your life away because you are under the curse placed on Adam.

You also lost the direct relationship with The Creator.

We also lost access to the tree of life.

That was one almighty sin that Adam and Eve committed. It carried a penalty far beyond a simple breach of a commandment
given in the law.

The Sabbath day was given to Israel.

The Gentiles knew nothing of the Sabbath day or any other commandment.

The Gentiles did not even know God.

Paul told you this.

God told to Adam

Gen:2 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to [e]tend and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

To Eve-

Gen 3: 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

They both knew from God. Eve didn’t say Adam said, she said God said.