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ZNP

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NY is so generous!

Attention America: Migrant Families NOW Paid $20,000 Per Month


Now this is not just random giving money away, they aren't giving this money to homeless Americans or vets or the mentally ill. No they are very selective, it only goes to illegal immigrants. Come and get it while you still can!
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#82
NY is so generous!

Attention America: Migrant Families NOW Paid $20,000 Per Month


Now this is not just random giving money away, they aren't giving this money to homeless Americans or vets or the mentally ill. No they are very selective, it only goes to illegal immigrants. Come and get it while you still can!
How do I apply? 👲
 

posthuman

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#83
The Bill that codifies the invasion of our border needs to be dismissed outright.

House Republicans vow to kill Senate border-Ukraine deal after text released

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ill-senate-border-deal-house/#google_vignette

The bill makes Mayorkas like an emperor at the same time that they are impeaching him for not doing his job.

“I’ve seen enough,” House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) wrote on X, formerly Twitter, of the legislation. “This bill is even worse than we expected, and won’t come close to ending the border catastrophe the President has created. As the lead Democrat negotiator proclaimed: Under this legislation, ‘the border never closes.’”

“If this bill reaches the House, it will be dead on arrival,” he warned.

House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-LA), who controls which bills get scheduled for a vote on the floor, pledged on X that the supplemental “will NOT receive a vote in the House.”

Even McConnell's allies are backing away from this.

Marco Rubio said "this is a parody of what a border bill should be"
if you want to discuss the bill, what about post the text of the bill instead of engaging in worldly, partisan trash talking about particular humans and their opinions about other particular humans...?


here it is:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/text

please point us to exactly which lines you don't like and, in your own words, explain why you don't like them.
 

ZNP

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Get a car, drive 4 migrants to NYC, tell them you split the money. One round trip from the border would probably take 1 week. So you can make 40k a month by driving illegals from the Southern border to NYC!
 

posthuman

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#86
NY is so generous!

Attention America: Migrant Families NOW Paid $20,000 Per Month


Now this is not just random giving money away, they aren't giving this money to homeless Americans or vets or the mentally ill. No they are very selective, it only goes to illegal immigrants. Come and get it while you still can!
this is a complete and total lie.

in the state of NY, which has a horrendous cost of living, asylum seekers -- which are not illegal immigrants but legal emigres with legitimate asylum claims -- could potentially be granted as much as around 15k per year in the form of humanitarian welfare aid if they have a a large family of very young children with them when they are granted asylum in the US.
 

posthuman

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Get a car, drive 4 migrants to NYC, tell them you split the money. One round trip from the border would probably take 1 week. So you can make 40k a month by driving illegals from the Southern border to NYC!
utter lies.

why do you go about on a Christian website spreading all this rubbish?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#88
NY is so generous!

Attention America: Migrant Families NOW Paid $20,000 Per Month


Now this is not just random giving money away, they aren't giving this money to homeless Americans or vets or the mentally ill. No they are very selective, it only goes to illegal immigrants. Come and get it while you still can!
He's making a lot of sense.
What do you think?
 

posthuman

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i used to think the conspiracy section was the shameful bottom of this site. but it's really the news section which is the unabashed cesspool of CC.

**not returning to thread** don't bother slandering me.
 

Poinsetta

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bro it’s just a ray of sunshine in my window 🪟 that’s all it takes
 

Poinsetta

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i can bet a ray of sunshine falls in your window too
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Get a car, drive 4 migrants to NYC, tell them you split the money. One round trip from the border would probably take 1 week. So you can make 40k a month by driving illegals from the Southern border to NYC!
I think that's what is happening on a large scale if what some investigators are saying is true.

We just need to take lessons from Latka for the rainy day funds. 😄

 

ZNP

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this is a complete and total lie.

in the state of NY, which has a horrendous cost of living, asylum seekers -- which are not illegal immigrants but legal emigres with legitimate asylum claims -- could potentially be granted as much as around 15k per year in the form of humanitarian welfare aid if they have a a large family of very young children with them when they are granted asylum in the US.
This is the NY Post on what appears to be the same story but different numbers and apparently the confusion is because Mayor Adams is not being forthright in discussing the program.

Inside Mayor Adams’ migrant debit card boondoggle — no-bid bank will hand out thousands to border crossers

https://nypost.com/2024/02/19/opini...-50-million-border-crossers-up-to-10000-each/

Earlier this month, The Post broke the story that Mayor Eric Adams is giving out pre-paid cash cards to migrants.

Unusually for the mayor, Adams didn’t publicize this story himself, and his administration for nearly a month has failed to correct several public misperceptions about it.

One misperception is that the program allows the city to give out just $50 million to migrants.

No wonder the mayor has been reticent.

This debit card program — if you read the actual contract — has the potential to become an open-ended, multibillion-dollar Bermuda Triangle of disappearing, untraceable cash, used for any purpose.

It will give migrants up to $10,000 each in taxpayer money with no ID check, no restrictions and no fraud control. (HPD later provided actual amounts to The Post, saying a family of four would be given $15,000 a year).

Why give out debit cards?
When The Post exposed the mayor’s debit card program earlier this month, the mayor’s office spun it as a money-saving program, to solve a problem: Migrants staying in hotels don’t eat all their food.


[So please note the debit cards do not cover the cost of the hotel, that is something different. No one could possibly afford to live in NYC on 10k a year, and a family of four could never live on 15k a year. So this debit card is only for food. It does not cover housing. $200 a night = $6,000 a month].

Solving the old boondoggle with a new boondoggle
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NYC launches $53M program to hand out pre-paid credit cards to migrant families
Instead of assuring that its existing no-bid “emergency” contractor fulfills its duty to provide edible food, however, the Adams administration has solved its problem by retaining a new no-bid “emergency” contractor — to provide a service with far more scope for waste, fraud and abuse than stale sandwiches: giving out potentially billions of dollars of hard cash, few questions asked.

Which vendors did the city’s Housing Preservation & Development consider for this contract, as qualified to provide this complex financial service?

New York City is home to hundreds of top-tier financial services and public benefits providers, a dream of a competitive bidding pool, to ensure that the city gets a good price, as well as strong protections against fraud and abuse.

But HPD considered only one: Newark-based Mobility Capital Finance, which also has an office in Harlem.

MoCaFi was founded by Wole Coaxum, a former managing director at JPMorgan Chase, who said the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., in 2014 inspired him to serve the “underbanked” and “narrow the racial wealth gap.”

How did HPD choose Mobility Capital? The contract makes it quite clear: MoCaFi was “referred to HPD by City Hall.”

How much city cash will MoCaFi give out — and how much will MoCaFi be paid?
Since doing its migrant deal with MoCaFi, Adams has been content to allow a public misperception: that this program is small and focused, with 500 migrant families at the Roosevelt Hotel receiving debit cards of about $1,000 a month, allowing them to buy necessities at grocery and convenience stores.

As the mayor said in February in response to a press question, “We’re doing on a pilot project with 500 people.”

It’s easy to conclude — and the mayor has not disabused anyone of this thought — that that’s how this will all cost $53 million or thereabouts, the headline figure reported in the press.

Nope. A thousand dollars a month for 500 families for a year — a good time frame for a pilot — would cost $6 million.

The city could have written and signed a contract for about that amount — a contract that allowed for a well-defined pilot program with such well-defined costs, and a way to judge its results.


That’s not the contract the city signed — at all.

As the contract document clearly and explicitly states, over the year’s term, “in exchange for [MoCaFi’s] … performance of the services, the city shall pay to the contractor a total amount not to exceed $53 [million] … in accordance with the scope of services and fees.”

That “scope of services” does not include the money that the migrants actually receive on their debit cards.

The city funds the cards — that is, puts money on them — separately.

Under the contract, upon request by the city, MoCaFi will simply dump off hundreds, or more, of blank debit cards with no one’s name on them, with unknown amounts of money to be loaded on them — up to “$10,000 per card” at any one time — by the city.

The city may even issue debit cards to children: “if [cards] are to be distributed to any person under the age of 18 … the city … shall confirm that the minor cardholder’s parent or guardian has consented to the minor’s acceptance and use of the card.”

So, city employees and shelter contract workers are going to be in charge of handing out cards to be loaded and regularly refilled with untraceable cash, to people who have no forms of identity acceptable to the American financial services system, under a program with no eligibility or verification policy.

What could go wrong?

To list one potential problem among many, gang members will know that people staying in adjacent rooms, including vulnerable women and minor children, are in possession of these debit cards.

And potential card recipients will quickly learn who is in a position to make the decision of whether they can get a card.

Nor can the city ensure that recipients don’t spend the money on unauthorized products, or simply withdraw the money in cash.

These are not SNAP cards; they are Mastercards. “Cardholders can pay for any goods/services at any business merchant that accepts Mastercard,” the contract reads — restrictions are optional.

Yes, the city can ask MoCaFi to activate or deactivate certain merchant or spending codes.

But these restrictions are not built into the contract; they are at the city’s changing discretion.

The city can even enable cardholder “consumers” to withdraw cash from the cards at domestic and international ATMs. “ATM withdrawal amounts per day can be restricted as required by the city,” the contract reads. “Should ATM access be included as part of the program, card fees will be subject to the schedule provided.”
 

HealthAndHappiness

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According to RFB Eagle Pass is closed and illegals are rerouted. This is why some are reporting that there's nothing to see .

Mexican Cartel are making BIG $ on Illegals

Lefties are making big $ too.
Also, my phone service was down all day along with millions of others. Separate issue. What does it mean?

Get a car, drive 4 migrants to NYC, tell them you split the money. One round trip from the border would probably take 1 week. So you can make 40k a month by driving illegals from the Southern border to NYC!
 

ZNP

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this is a complete and total lie..
Yes, when you dig into the story you discover everything Mayor Adams is telling you is a complete and total lie.

1. Pilot program for 500 people. -- There may have been a pilot program but if you think this will be limited to 500 people they have lied to you.

2. Cost is $6 million -- No. Cost is $50 million -- No. These numbers are completely misleading. They are not talking about the total cost, only the fee to the guy printing out the debit cards.

3. Only giving 10k per year to a person -- They don't put names on these cards and they don't check IDs. There is next to no safeguards against fraud.

This was a no bid contract to a campaign donor, they lie about how much it involves, they lie about how much people are receiving, everything about this is a big lie.
 

ZNP

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iamsoandso

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Texans respon,d....
.....to the alien invasion...

The actual response from Texans on the border is that we are getting real tired of the politicians inventing things to run for office with at our expense.

This is 2024 and you don't need to get your information from fringe news sources just click on the LIVE cams and you can watch the border crossings 24 hours a day 365 days a year for your own self https://www.eaglepasstx.gov/310/International-Bridge-I-Cameras

Ask yourself the big question,,,,,"why is Abbott blocking media coverage,the Border patrol ect.ect. from letting them actually documenting whats really going on at the park in eagle pass?" Here I'll help you a little, the truth is that their retrieving body after body every day of the week https://www.jems.com/operations/vid...e-with-recovering-bodies-from-the-rio-grande/
 

Susanna

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People who ain’t from Texas sure know how things work down here.😂

Abbot is just a joke desperate to stay in office.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The actual response from Texans on the border is that we are getting real tired of the politicians inventing things to run for office with at our expense.

This is 2024 and you don't need to get your information from fringe news sources just click on the LIVE cams and you can watch the border crossings 24 hours a day 365 days a year for your own self https://www.eaglepasstx.gov/310/International-Bridge-I-Cameras

Ask yourself the big question,,,,,"why is Abbott blocking media coverage,the Border patrol ect.ect. from letting them actually documenting whats really going on at the park in eagle pass?" Here I'll help you a little, the truth is that their retrieving body after body every day of the week https://www.jems.com/operations/vid...e-with-recovering-bodies-from-the-rio-grande/
Cowboys and Aliens movie was just my attempt at humor.

Of course politicians do what's going to further their careers. I don't trust your governor or any other.
As for that pass, there are people checking in person. That's dried up and theyve been redirected. I think I posted one or two who travelled many miles, interviewed illegals, border patrol, had an interpreter for Mandarin Chinese men who have been seen coming from a resource point clear down in the Darian Gap. These aren't"fringe" guys unless you ask Brian Steltor. The prime guy is one of the most famous war correspondents of this decade.