Christian Nationalist Movement in the United States

I agree that we can be charitable in many ways to people outside of the united States of America. The best way is to send out evangelists and churches to spread the Gospel.

Would it be a sin if those Catholics left their wicked denomination?
For some reason they tolerate and make excuses for the corruption in their false christian religion. They really need to get saved ( see gospel) and leave that wretched place of works salvation that Never saved anyone.

Why is it that their Poope, whom they call Holy Father, Vicar of Christ, makes sure his men cover up and reestablish those queer priests in other churches?

We don't have to be statisticians to know at first glance that there are more queer priests that try to get alone with little boys than there are in the general middle American population. There are probably other denominations that try to compete for the title of the queerest pastorate of them all, but they don't represent the average people that I have seen in my humble life. See a church with a rainbow flag and they've got a queer/ lesbyterian pastor.

I think of Republicans as people who say stealing are wrong but are themselves engaging in stealing. They say the right stuff, but it's different from what they do. The majority of politicians are bought off and/or blackmailed at this point. It's pretty much all of the Democrats and the majority of Republicans, but in a democrazy, that's good enough to get what you want. Government works to serve corporations and banks, but it's even worse than that. I used to think we have a system where greed rules, and I would represent it with pigs being in charge. However, I found out that there are evil agendas designed to harm people whether it produces profit or not. I use wolves in this case. There are pigs out there, but ultimately, we have a system controlled by wolves that are trying to harm people as much as possible. Generally, the wolves have so much money, they don't care if they lose millions while trying to hurt people.

Yes, I am aware of Hitler being interested in occult things. I don't know a lot about it. When people are under the Hitler is the most evil man in the world viewpoint, they don't see things clearly. Someone here tried to say Hitler destroyed Germany when before any warring started, Germany was actually thriving in contrast to the utter impoverishment and misery of the Weimar Republic.

People say Hitler instituted gun control. Someone did an investigation into this and found that for Germans, he slightly loosed gun restrictions. Ultimately, there was no significant change in gun policies. Taking guns away from non-Germans doesn't leave the German people helpless to resist a tyrannical government, which is the real reason gun grabbing exists. Hitler was actually well-liked by most Germans for having turned the country around and putting them in a state of economic prosperity. Later in his reign, some people tried to assassinate him. At that point I think it was clear that the war was going to be lost, and they were probably hoping to surrender on better terms than having a futile fight to the end. Even people who push the holocaust narrative don't claim that this was being done with full public knowledge of it. When people told these claims to the German public, it was something they had never heard of.

I've been thinking about how the USA showed speeches of Hitler speaking in his exuberant manner while not actually translating anything he's saying. Ultimately, this ends up sounding scary to people who don't speak German. I recently listened to an audio recording that is the only one where Hitler is speaking in a normal conversational manner. It was coming from a meeting in Finland. Finland was working with Germany to fight off the Soviet invasion. Anyway, I was thinking that I could probably get an AI program to change Hitler's speeches into being a speech about how he loves puppies and kittens and how we will never tire and never slacken until we find a happy home for all the precious puppies and kittens of Germany. It'll probably sound equally as evil and scary to people who don't understand German. Everything fed to the American public was designed to get them to go to war. It's kind of like the whole "weapons of mass destruction" narrative. After the war with Germany, they had to continue with and ramp up the propaganda to justify what was done.

Most people don't know that the Germans had a no rape/abuse policy for nations they conquered. Yesterday, I listened to an interview with decorated former German soldiers. One of them mentioned that if a German were to rape a woman in a place they took control of, they would be shot for doing so. Compare this to the Soviet policy of being encouraged to rape and abuse the population not only of Germans but everywhere they went. This produced a common knowledge that you go west and surrender to the Americans/British instead of ending up in the hands of the Soviets. This also resulted in the Ukrainians welcoming the Germans after having been subjected to Soviet rule. I listened to an interview with a Ukrainian woman. She talked about how bad and abusive the Soviets were. She said they told them, "Work will make you free." That sounds like the gate in Auschwitz or was it one of the other camps in Poland held by the Soviet Union. Now I suspect such a gate of being a Soviet fabrication. It's totally the character of the Soviets and modern American Democrat party to blame the opposition for the very things they are doing.

The Leftists have absolutely no shame. They will lie daily to maintain their position. They have also created a new bogeyman -- Christian Nationalism -- to keep up their Communist propaganda,

Leading Bishop Blasts Politico Reporter’s Critique of ‘Christian Nationalists’
ROME — A prominent U.S. Catholic bishop has blasted a Politico reporter’s commentary on Christian nationalism, calling it “one of the most disturbing and frankly dangerous things I’ve ever seen in a political conversation.”

Robert Barron, bishop of the Diocese of Winona–Rochester and founder of the Catholic ministerial organization Word on Fire, took issue with reporting by Politico’s national investigative correspondent, Heidi Przybyla, who claimed Christian nationalists are dangerous because they think human rights come from God rather than government.
[She has not read the Constitution but simply wants to attack Christians]

In an appearance Thursday on MSNBC’s All In, Przybyla said that Christian nationalists “have a lot of power in Trump’s circle.” The one thing that unites all Christian nationalists, she continued, is the belief “that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don’t come from any earthly authority. They don’t come from Congress. They don’t come to the Supreme Court. They come from God.” Przybyla underscored that belief in the divine origin of human rights is not shared by ordinary Christians but is a defining mark of Christian nationalism, which is “very different”: [She is simply lying through her teeth. Ordinary citizens -- whether Christian or not -- know what the Constitution says, and which is true.]

In response, Bishop Barron posted a video message on X (former Twitter), noting that Przybyla was deeply mistaken in attributing the belief in the divine origin of rights to Christian nationalist “weirdos.”“ First of all, it was Thomas Jefferson who made that claim,” he observed. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.
https://www.breitbart.com/faith/202...co-reporters-critique-christian-nationalists/

You can read the rest of the article above.

Im not American so I cant comment personally for how things are there, but it still looks like you are exaggerating.

Corruption is a reality found in ALL churches and institutions, the Catholic Church just gets noticed more because of its size and global relevance. If some big outlet like BBC published an article about sexual abuse in some church like the Unitarian Church of Transylvania do you think people would be paying attention to it time after time? Maybe a few people in Romania and Hungary and thats it. A report about the Catholic Church however can scandalize billions around the world and cause mass worldwide uproar not just against the Catholic Church but against Christianity in general too, that gets even worse with social media algorithms bringing the issue to attention again and again.

And I personally never saw a church with a rainbow flag in my region or anywhere close, Catholic or not. Sounds a very western thing, that is unthinkable in my part of the world.

Pity you weren't a Jew during the Holocaust, maybe you'd understand the worlds POV.


Well yippie for the Germans. You might want to read up on people who tried to resist what Hitler was doing and see how kind and loving he was to them.


Fixed for you. Most of the Germans knew what was going on at some point. Then they were made to go through the camps so they wouldn't deny the Holocaust. There is a literal ton of evidence against Hitler and the Nazi's. Whatever good you think he did his people he undid with the Holocaust.


Read Mein Kampf and get back to us about what a sweet, snugly character he was. We knew and know what he was about.

Prior to Hitler being elected, there would be violent confrontations with communists. He ended up shutting down the communists and the whole political party system. I'm sure a lot of people weren't happy about that if their party was shut down. Although, I don't believe a bunch of political parties fighting over control of government is anything good. Even in America where it's been simplified to 2 parties. It's like you have one party in for 4 years trying to build a wall, and then the other party gets in and starts tearing down the wall (literal and metaphorical). Meanwhile, the wealthy banks and businesses end up getting everything they want no matter who is cycling through the government or making a self-enriching career out of it.

I have read Mein Kampf. I would say he made some good points in there and pointed out the Jewish use of the media where they lie and lie so big that people can't even comprehend that there would be a lie that big. Hitler was a German nationalist, so he was trying to do what he thought was good for Germany. It might not be good for other people and places in the world. Generally, the UK didn't want a strong and prosperous German economy to compete with.

The whole point of the holocaust propaganda is to overshadow anything Hitler did, and now they're expanding the nonsense to condemn any sane and sensible policies for a European-populated nation. The other nations of the world are given a free pass to do whatever they want and that includes Israel. Many of the claims are coming from the Soviet Union and should be discredited based on little more than that. Someone from the US who actual makes gas chambers for executions was laughing at how ridiculous the alleged German gas chambers are.

I think some Jews knew they deserved what they were getting. If they were actively trying to harm or scam Germans or knew Jews in general were doing that, they should be able to conclude they deserved to be removed from German society in order to stop harming Germans. I'm not sure if they would actually think like that, though. We tend to take for granted the Christian morality of the European-populated nations that has morphed into a sort of globohomo universal morality that rejects Christianity and features a lot of non-religious people. The religious Jews did not receive Jesus, and thus did not receive "love your enemies" and the whole program of God expanding his operation to the entire world and not just Israel, Judah, and the Jews. The orthodox Jews believe they are super special and other people of the world are worthless and will ultimately end up being their slaves. There are women from Ukraine and other places who are forced to go to Israel to be prostitutes. This is legal in Israel as long as they are not Jews. This mentality is actually depicted in the old testament scriptures where non-Jews are referred to as goyim (plural form of cattle). Even Jesus touched upon this mentality when a gentile woman came to him for her daughter to be healed. He said, "It is not good to take the children's bread and give it to the little dogs." You probably know the story of how he relented and told her she had great faith.

This mentality that Israel was God's nation and all the other nations of the world were in a state of vain, futility is actually true. At the time, the people of these nations would live and die a life separate from God with no hope of finding God. Everything they say and do is futile and useless.

The religious Jews subscribe to this ethnocentric mentality of non-Jews being goyim. If you're anywhere in America besides New York and possibly a few other places, any Jews you meet are probably non-religious Jews that don't believe this. They are more likely to be like non-Jewish leftists and some are like non-Jewish conservatives. I know this viewpoint exists and is a huge part of Jewish culture in Israel. Unlike a Christian perspective where God's nation would exist to be a blessing to the world, the Orthodox Jewish perspective is that Israel will rule over the world like a slave master rules over his slaves. The world should serve Israel instead of Israel offering service and goodness to the world. Ultimately, this will result in Israel being the center of the Beast system. They will rebuild the unnecessary temple there and do the unnecessary sacrifices. The final sacrifice has already been offered, and the veil was torn from top to bottom. They refuse this reality and will restore their futile nonsense and ultimately set the stage for the Beast to takeover.

A world in some level of chaos will be brought to peace. Since the peace is forced and superficial, it won't last. Things will start to return to chaos again.

I see that you are from Romania.
I have listened to news interviews from your country, so my exposure to your culture is very limited. From what I understand, your culture amongst the average rural person is much more traditional than that of American cities. It probably is similar to what it was like here over 15 years ago if I were to guess. Even then there were lesbian protestant pastors and many limp wristed catholic priests. Mel Gibson's dad, Hutton was publicly speaking against his RC church for decades. I considered him a man of high morality and I don't paint all Catholics with the same brush.
We spent some time talking when he lived nearby. I miss him and wish I had one more chance to sit down and talk with him. He admitted to the corruption in his denomination and he took opportunities to warn others about it. I have the utmost respect for him as a man who took his children out of America when he saw it change for the worse. After that, one of his boys starred in movies at their new Australian home. When it got even worse there, he returned to settle down in my humble state.
I'm not exaggerating, but it's understandable that you doubt it from your European perspective. Just the past few years it's gotten much worse in the cities. Since parents turn their children over to the government schools to raise while they work to pay for it outside the home, the family units have been destroyed. I have a documentary in English you might be interested in called, Babylon USA. I can't find the Romanian translation, but have English if you wish to see a copy.

Yes, church denominations are corrupt and I've decided to be independent from them, while dependent upon God. We had a great message on the priesthood of every believer this morning. The Bible is our only text book.

Many decide to reject the religious corruption and believe the Gospel (in Romanian).
I am grateful for that.

Blessings

It has everything to do with your faith if you're a Holocaust denier. Many Christian hid Jews to save their lives, like Corrie ten Boom. Did she lie? Read her book or watch the movie. All kinds of the same testimony along the lines of Anne Frank where righteous, truly righteous people did all they could to save Jewish lives.

But nothing about trying to commit genocide of a whole race?! You'd think that would come up in such a righteous country.


No, most of them knew Martin Luthers writings against the Jews as he had already passed his antisemitism on to them. They were ripe for a leader like Hitler, he was right up their ally.


America dragged it's feet going to war and also turned away Jewish refugees. Doesn't sound like someone itching to go to war.


Fringe conspiracy theory aren't facts. But that seems to be your wheel house anyhow.


It absolutely is. One of the most attested to events in history.

That's just daft! Murder of innocents is just that whether of the Jews or any other peoples. Communism and socialism are both from the pit of hell where Hitler, Stalin, Marx and their ilk find themselves today. One is not more important than the other. One may have been more intentional, but murder of innocents or starvation, one and the same.

110% against Communism as Socialism and Marxism. They have killed thousands between them. It should be stamped out anywhere any of them are found.


Then so is everything else in history. The evidence from their own records was enough to convict them and we have much more than that for evidence.


Which I spoke out about in another thread. But then you deny that Hitler did anything wrong. So you're chasing your tail here. Either the Nazi's were wrong or right. If you don't see what they did as wrong you empathize or side with them. So what else do you expect to be called? You can't have your cake...


For the sake of all women here, just leave it at dirty rags huh. No one needs the visual. Evil is evil and these men will be held accountable for every soul they took.

Anne Frank, the diary that has parts written with a ballpoint pen before ballpoint pens were invented. It's stuff like that that's really sketchy and makes me doubt and question the authenticity of a lot of stories. Some people hid Jews so they wouldn't get sent to camps.

Martin Luther didn't think much of Jews until he found out about the Talmud. When he found out the Jews were being encouraged to scam, harm, and steal from non-Jews by their religious teachers, yeah, he went off on them after that. All people were more religious back then, so pretty much all the Jews were listening to leaders that were teaching them this stuff.

It's been a long time since I read or listened to stuff about the Pearl Harbor incident. I vaguely remember it being official documents that have come out long after the event. If that's the case, then that's how the story should go. Then that makes the USA look really bad.

I have heard that the camps in Germany and west of there (I think just one or two), were inspected by British/American sources. They determined that there were no execution program in these camps. Meanwhile, the Soviet Union held 6 camps in Poland for 10 years without letting anyone else inspect them. This is where the alleged gas chambers were. They cut holes in the ceiling of a building and claimed they dropped Zyklon-B in there to gas Jews. Zyklon-B stains walls blue. Someone went in there and tested the walls for it too. He found nothing. He did find blue walls and a positive test for Zyklon-B in disinfection chambers. Again, why would they be disinfecting clothing and mattresses and doing everything to prevent lice and the spread of typhus if they were just trying to kill everybody? Auschwitz had an Olympic size swimming pool and medical facilities. I even heard a Jewish woman talking about how they would create and conduct plays at the camp. She said she asked a guard for supplies of some type to use in entertaining the children, and he got them for her. That doesn't sound like a place where they were killing everybody. At the end of the war, all the camps and all the territories were a disaster and lacking in supplies. So, yes, they found starving people at that point.

I have listened to something about how there's no mention of death programs at any of the camps from any German communications we have. Also, Churchill wrote a memoir after the war and had nothing say about Germans having death camps. It's kind of odd that that would be completely absent.

I think it's better to think of nations as criminal gangs fighting with each other for resources and territories. At this point I see the Germans as being victims of unfair treatment after WWI and unnecessarily attacked by the USA and UK during WWII. They were trying to fight against the greatest evil that ever existed in the world at the time, Soviet communism. They managed to keep it out of places west and north of them.

Then there's the sob story about poor, innocent Jews that never did anything wrong. If the Germans decided to slaughter them all, I would say it's wrong, but I surely wouldn't say it was for no reason. Then there's the need for poor, innocent Jews to have a country of their own, mostly paid for by the United States. If they're so helpless and innocent, why are they in so much danger everywhere they go? They're not even safe here in America after we saved them. They need their own nation. A nation that Jewish criminals flee to for asylum, because the Jewish state refuses to hand any Jews over to non-Jews.

Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world, maybe we need to carve a place out for Christians and make the USA pay for it. Killing and persecuting and taking property from current inhabitants isn't something Christians can get behind, unless the name of the place can be found in the Bible. Then it's okay, and we'll get blessed for supporting such a nation. I'm still trying to figure out where all the blessings for the United States are after all these years of dumping so much money on Israel. Currently, the USA is about to go bankrupt while we have an unelected puppet for president. Please, God, can we get a blessing or two for all the money we've dumped on Israel? I wouldn't count on it.

I started watching a documentary on manufacturing during World War II last night.

I forgot that it was the UK and France who declared war on Germany. Hitler launched the "blitzkrieg" to take control of France and then fought the British soldiers off while intentionally letting a remainder of them go. This was followed by attempts to establish peace with the UK. Yes, "the most evil man in the world" tried to establish peace. The idea that Hitler was trying to take over the world is also just a myth. The Germans saw themselves as fighting against Bolshevism and wanted to devote all of their resources to this goal.

The Germans were in a fight for their lives against the Soviet Union with the Western powers attacking them. Because of this they ramped up military production to insane levels. They, however, were more geared towards quality than quantity, and the British, Americans, and Soviets were much better at cranking out quantity. The Germans were trying to use highly-skilled craftsman while the Americans found that they could get a single person doing one or two things repetitively, and they'd obviously get really good at doing that thing.

The need for high production led to Germans putting people in labor camps. The Germans suffered from a lack of oil and gasoline, and this actually led to supply distribution problems. The documentary mentioned having plenty of food in France, but an inability to distribute it where it was needed due to the lack of fuel. People in camps were not poorly fed, because the Germans were being mean. If they had plenty of food available, I'm sure with their desire for high production they would have motivated people to work by promising food in exchange for it.

The Germans were nationalist in perspective, and they despised the greed and evil entrapments of capitalism that's ultimately associated with globalism. There is globalism, and then there is global trade. Germany's exit from global trade was most likely forced on them by their opponents, and this brings up an issue of the modern world with modern technology. No nation of the world has all of the raw materials and finished goods needed for modern technology. So it is absolutely necessary to stay in this trading sphere, but on the other hand, there is an ugly globalism side to things. The Soviets were not cut off from global trade and ultimately wanted to push global communism. Germany lacked fuel, but they also lacked nickel that was used in war production.

I guess my whole point here is that the idea that Germans were evil is ridiculous. There are no mass populations of people in the world who are motivated by evil. There are a few evil individuals, but overall, evil isn't very popular. There's something inside of most people that tells them hurting others, especially for no reason, is wrong. People generally have the sense that when there is evil all around them, they are in danger from those around them. They'd much rather be in safe conditions. The Germans were Christian (including Catholic) people about the same amount as the British and the Americans. They were not motivated by evil (hurting others just to hurt them), but the main motivations in their culture were love for country and their people. With the threat of Bolshevism looming and the Western powers that wanted to destroy them and hold them down, they were fighting for their own lives and the lives of their people.

Today we see Hitler being used to demonize nationalism while insane globalism is being pushed. It has been brought to the point of thinking you can take any people of the world, force them together in the same place, and everything will work out great. There is no acknowledgement that people are different. At this point it should be well-known that people's innate characteristics are primarily set in place by genetics. There are also environmental effects and environmental inputs such as culture and religion. The genetic stuff is what I would call primary personality characteristics such as those listed in the Big Five (extroversion, neuroticism, openness/intelligence, agreeableness, and conscientiousness). Environmental effects tend to be much stronger when it comes to damaging things rather than building them. Even with everything being environmental, you could say people are different because they came from different environments, and we still get the same result: people are different.

"Diversity is our strength."

One closely related word to diversity is division. Division is our strength. That quote up there is actually true. You just have to figure out who "our" is referring to.

You're actually praising Adolf Hitler and Naziism???? You're on ignore! I can't tolerate anyone who thinks like you do!!!

I am just trying to depict things from the German perspective as opposed to the American, British, and Soviet side of things. We have a victor's history, and honestly, I think it is used to harm any conservative or nationalist thinking in favor of insane globalism. Trump is Hitler. Conservatives/Republicans are Nazis. We need leftist open border insanity and perversion everywhere because not doing this means you're a Nazi.

I think we need to admit Germans and even Hitler were not pure evil and insane and all that narrative we were fed. We need to admit a group of people in a place need to share something in common. Historically, this would be a shared heritage, language, nationality, and often with a shared religion to go on top of that. I would like to think we could manage something more open without it being insanely open like the current state of America and Europe. I would use the PIN test to welcome people in. People need to be Productive (not on welfare), Integrated (not sticking to their own communities and refusing to learn the native language), and Non-criminal. I'm not sure if people can manage this or maybe only the more intelligent and productive people can.

I would personally prefer to see a Christian nation with faith in Christ being the central, unifying tenant of the national. The government would be run by Christians only in a Christian manner. You can't force people to be Christian, but the governance would be. I honestly don't think this will ever happen. Globalism will forcefully takeover everything and the beast system will be fully instated.

Oh! The air just lifted all of a sudden. Have a great day everyone!


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Here are two quotes from this article...

I’m curious about all those who seem to hate Christianity so much and which part they oppose. Christianity was founded by a guy who said to forgive those who do wrong to you, love your neighbor and treat everyone as you would want to be treated, and don’t judge people – only actions.

If more people treated others as they wanted to be treated and loved their neighbor, things would be far better in almost every way. I guess my question for Russell, Axios, and all the other leftists is, why do you hate America, and why don’t you love and respect your neighbors?

Here is who Jim Hoft is: In 2023, The Gateway Pundit received the Most Trusted Print Media Award at the American Liberty Awards.

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This is all one-sided propaganda. I am a Christian and disagree with Jim Hoft. According to him, I hate Christianity! That is beyond absurd. He, obviously, doesn't forgive those who disagree with his far-right politics, doesn't love his liberal neighbor, doesn't treat those who disagree with his right-wing politics as he would want to be treated, and judges people. (Just read the fiirst sentence of the first quote above).

He then wrote, "If more people treated others as they wanted to be treated and loved their neighbor, things would be far better in almost every way", but his words express just the opposite. He follows that with this hypocritical statement: "I guess my question for Russell, Axios, and all the other leftists is, why do you hate America, and why don’t you love and respect your neighbors?" (my emphasis).

He doesn't treat those who disagree with him as he wants to be treated and obviously doesn't love his neighbor. He criticizes him!!! He attacks them, claiming that they "hate America". Why doesn't he love and respect his neighbors?
The whole article is hypocritical!

He and everyone else should pay attention to what Jesus said: Matthew 5:45b-46, "He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?"

He and others with this hypocritical mindset should read "Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies" by David P. Gushee.

Had to look up who Gushie was. This from leftist Wikipedia:

Gushee is most known for his activism in climate change, Torture, LGBT inclusion, and Post-evangelicalism.

About all I need to know about him, and you.

Paul, in writing to the Corinthian Church, made it clear that tolerance and acceptance of sin is an offense to God.

In fact, he had more to say on Christians tolerating and accepting sin, than the grievous sexual sin of the individual


1 Corinthians 5:9-13

New King James Version

Immorality Must Be Judged
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to [a]keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

There are more and more people and Churches that are preaching another Gospel. Most, by adding to the Gospel such damnable heresies like Christians must accept sinful behaviors like homosexuality.

This does NOT mean that unconverted sinners aren’t welcome in a Church.

We are talking about those that CLAIM to be a Christian, yet tolerate all manner of sin in the Body of Christ.

KJ21
But should we, or an angel from Heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.