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Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Context

  • Spoken by Jesus: This verse records Jesus' words to His disciples just before His ascension into heaven.
  • Promise and Mission: Jesus is outlining both a promise and a mission for His followers.
The Promise: "But you shall receive power..."

  • The Power: This refers to the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. The disciples were about to experience a profound transformation, not based on their own strength, but through the infilling of the Holy Spirit.
  • Why Power is Needed: This power would enable them to be effective witnesses for Christ.
The Mission: "...and you shall be witnesses to Me..."

  • Witnesses, Not Judges: The disciples' primary responsibility was to share the message of Jesus with the world. They were to tell others about His life, death, and resurrection.
  • The Scope of Witnessing: The mission begins locally ("Jerusalem ") then expands outwards ("Judea ", "Samaria ", and finally "to the uttermost end of the earth"). This highlights that the gospel message is intended for everyone, regardless of location or background.
Key Takeaways

  • Empowerment: Christians are not left to their own devices. The Holy Spirit empowers believers to be effective witnesses for Christ.
  • Focus on the Gospel: Our mission is to share the good news of Jesus with the world.
  • Outward Movement: The gospel message is meant for everyone. Christianity is intended to be inclusive and expansive.
If being filled with the Spirit and Speaking in Tongues empowers me to be a powerful witness for Christ, Any Christian should desire that.
 

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I just want your views backed by Scriptural references on the subject and what it means to you.

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Noone on Earth brings new revelation, that isn't already revealed through the Word of God, which is fullest revelation given to man. Through the moving and operation of the Holy Ghost, I Pray what we say here brings the truth of these Revelations, truth by truth, or precept upon precept, to the heart of the hearer. Lay what we say before the feet of Jesus (Word of God) and compare, the Bible is Always truth, so if they don't match, we need to reevaluate our stance. What we say or do here will have lasting impact upon the believer and sinner alike. We most certainly have freedom of speech, but any true christian will weigh what they say against the Word of God and if they don't agree God is not in error, and we need to pray for understanding. Those that have more meat of the Word can help those who are struggling, if done with humility, peace and love. I don't mind a peaceful debate, but when we start to argue amongst each other that is not the Spirit of God. God Bless and Peace to you all. (This signature is in general and not pointing fingers at anyone at anytime. God Bless.)
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You can find a bit of a study Here on the baptism in the Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in tongues...Acts 1v4-8, 2v1-4, 10v44-47...
 
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You're asking the wrong question. Instead of asking where in scripture it says tongues have ceased, you should be asking whether tongues, as practiced today, is the same thing we see taught in scripture.

If you want scriptures that specifically say tongues will cease at the end of the Apostolic age, I'll admit I don't know of any. But judging by some your responses, you seem a little ignorant of what the scriptures actually teach. Not intended as an insult; it just seems you're acting like you have a lot more Biblical understanding than you do. I hope you'll keep studying and seeking insight.
Please if I am in error point it out to me, that is not my desire, I only want to speak truth.
 

ResidentAlien

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Please if I am in error point it out to me, that is not my desire, I only want to speak truth.
I did tell you where you're in error. If you can't understand what I already said, why should I continue???
 

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For me I believe God's word doesn't change.
As God in his word says speaking in different tongues is one gift of the Holy Spirit then who am I to say it isn't or that people don't talk like that today.
I don't think as people we should be jealous of other people's gift but enjoy what God has given to us. All are very special because they all come from God 🥰

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

What an amazing list of gifts 🥰
 

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Yes, the Holy-Spirit-enabled gift of speaking in tongues is still available today. However, it is not likely to be given to people who think it's demonic, silly, or "dead".
did you ever witness such an event? if so what was the purpose of it? what came out of it, did anyone understant?
 

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I just want your views backed by Scriptural references on the subject and what it means to you.

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Noone on Earth brings new revelation, that isn't already revealed through the Word of God, which is fullest revelation given to man. Through the moving and operation of the Holy Ghost, I Pray what we say here brings the truth of these Revelations, truth by truth, or precept upon precept, to the heart of the hearer. Lay what we say before the feet of Jesus (Word of God) and compare, the Bible is Always truth, so if they don't match, we need to reevaluate our stance. What we say or do here will have lasting impact upon the believer and sinner alike. We most certainly have freedom of speech, but any true christian will weigh what they say against the Word of God and if they don't agree God is not in error, and we need to pray for understanding. Those that have more meat of the Word can help those who are struggling, if done with humility, peace and love. I don't mind a peaceful debate, but when we start to argue amongst each other that is not the Spirit of God. God Bless and Peace to you all. (This signature is in general and not pointing fingers at anyone at anytime. God Bless.)
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So....you want us to declare what God will or won't do with miracles based on scripture so finger pointing can result?

Isn't that encouraging sin?

I don't think I'll play.
 
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Please if I am in error point it out to me, that is not my desire, I only want to speak truth.
You're asking the wrong question. Instead of asking where in scripture it says tongues have ceased, you should be asking whether tongues, as practiced today, is the same thing we see taught in scripture.

If you want scriptures that specifically say tongues will cease at the end of the Apostolic age, I'll admit I don't know of any. But judging by some your responses, you seem a little ignorant of what the scriptures actually teach. Not intended as an insult; it just seems you're acting like you have a lot more Biblical understanding than you do. I hope you'll keep studying and seeking insight.
I admit there are very many false tongue speaking churches that are bringing damage to the True biblical Pentecostal experience. But I assure you there are True Churches that adhere to the truth of Scripture in this matter. Plus anyone who has never experienced the Baptism of The Holy Ghost would find it hard to give an accurate answer.

Look at what is in bold type and tell me which of my responses or in error. I can't in good conscience leave it that way if it's wrong. Don't jeopardize my reputation with harsh statement without helping me correct it.
 
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So....you want us to declare what God will or won't do with miracles based on scripture so finger pointing can result?

Isn't that encouraging sin?

I don't think I'll play.
I just want everyone to hold what they say responsibly before the word of God and compare if what they believe contradicts the Bible its not the Bible that is in error.
 

JohnDB

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I admit there are very many false tongue speaking churches that are bringing damage to the True biblical Pentecostal experience. But I assure you there are True Churches that adhere to the truth of Scripture in this matter. Plus anyone who has never experienced the Baptism of The Holy Ghost would find it hard to give an accurate answer.

Look at what is in bold type and tell me which of my responses or in error. I can't in good conscience leave it that way if it's wrong. Don't jeopardize my reputation with harsh statement without helping me correct it.
Your reputation is not in jeopardy....you have sealed it quite well....if you wish to repair it you have a lot of work to do.

God does as He wills. He isn't a pet or receive advice from people. Not even Peter or Mary or anyone. God is self-sufficient. God is Omniscient and seeks His own aims...not mine and not yours.

Where many people pretend to be given the "gift of tongues" to prove that they have received something from God...the obvious nature of how they have used this "gift" is proof they have received nothing from God. From my vantage point it appears as if God is ignoring them.

However, that's not necessarily the case for everyone everywhere. God does as He wants and believes He needs to do to further His purposes.
God doesn’t look to me for advice and I have insufficient hubris to offer it. YMMV.
 

JohnDB

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I just want everyone to hold what they say responsibly before the word of God and compare if what they believe contradicts the Bible its not the Bible that is in error.
You mean having a healthy respect and borderline fear of God?

That requires faith.

If they don't have it they don't have any.

I can stand in a garage and make automobile noises. (I make great ones that sound really authentic) but that ability to make noises, even when standing in a garage, does not make me an automobile no matter how much I might wish to be one.

Didn't scriptures say something about wolves in sheep's clothing? Meaning just because someone looks and acts like a sheep doesn't mean they are a sheep. What fruits do they have? Thats how you know who someone is...it's always been this way. For thousands of years.
 
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Your reputation is not in jeopardy....you have sealed it quite well....if you wish to repair it you have a lot of work to do.

God does as He wills. He isn't a pet or receive advice from people. Not even Peter or Mary or anyone. God is self-sufficient. God is Omniscient and seeks His own aims...not mine and not yours.

Where many people pretend to be given the "gift of tongues" to prove that they have received something from God...the obvious nature of how they have used this "gift" is proof they have received nothing from God. From my vantage point it appears as if God is ignoring them.

However, that's not necessarily the case for everyone everywhere. God does as He wants and believes He needs to do to further His purposes.
God doesn’t look to me for advice and I have insufficient hubris to offer it. YMMV.
Thank you. I just humbly hope that if I am ever in error that people like you would be honest and point it out. I only want people to know the Truth of Scripture. There is so much error and false doctrine out there and I don't want to be any part of it.
 

JohnDB

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Thank you. I just humbly hope that if I am ever in error that people like you would be honest and point it out. I only want people to know the Truth of Scripture. There is so much error and false doctrine out there and I don't want to be any part of it.
That has been an ongoing issue for thousands of years. Jesus no sooner acended than the crap started.
Even Peter himself didn't always get things right and caused confusion.

If Peter couldn't do it then, then how can we these 2,000 years later living in a different culture have perfect theology?

We can't!

We do the best we can with what God has given us. And we check our own fruits to ensure they are good.
 

ResidentAlien

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Thank you. I just humbly hope that if I am ever in error that people like you would be honest and point it out. I only want people to know the Truth of Scripture. There is so much error and false doctrine out there and I don't want to be any part of it.
You say if you're in error you want people to point it out. And you've said you wish we could all come together under the banner of one truth. Let me ask you then: Do you think there's anything you could be in error about? If so, what? Is there anything about tongues you're not 100% sure about, and would like clarification on from the scriptures?
 
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You say if you're in error you want people to point it out. And you've said you wish we could all come together under the banner of one truth. Let me ask you then: Do you think there's anything you could be in error about? If so, what? Is there anything about tongues you're not 100% sure about, and would like clarification on from the scriptures?
Do you think there's anything you could be in error about? No not me.
Is there anything about tongues you're not 100% sure about, and would like clarification on from the scriptures? Not really. Just to those who believe the Speaking in Tongues has ceased, where is the proof in Scripture. And if it's still available today why doesn't everyone desire it.
 

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Yes Speaking in tongues is still available today and I know that as a Fact as I have that gift -----I use it quite a bit in my personal praying time ----it is very powerful and uplifting -----I got this Gift after I received Jesus as my lord and Saviour -----so anyone who says it is a dead issue is wrong ------this is listed as one of the 9 gifts of the Spirit and all the gifts are available today as the Holy spirit lives in us ----He is not a dead Spirit ---Folks ----He is a living Spirit who lives in us and directs us into all truth of Scripture and guides us on our journey to mature in our Faith walk with Christ -----

All nine Gifts of the Spirit are alive and well today ------
 

ResidentAlien

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Do you think there's anything you could be in error about? No not me.
Is there anything about tongues you're not 100% sure about, and would like clarification on from the scriptures? Not really. Just to those who believe the Speaking in Tongues has ceased, where is the proof in Scripture. And if it's still available today why doesn't everyone desire it.
So you don't really want to know if you're in error so you can correct your error, you just want want people to say where they think you're in error so you can prove them wrong. Doesn't that about sum it up?
 

JohnDB

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So you don't really want to know if you're in error so you can correct your error, you just want want people to say where they think you're in error so you can prove them wrong. Doesn't that about sum it up?
He seems to be having issues with seeing us as people who might be equal in theological knowledge and understanding....

Men of "good conscience" can have different viewpoints. It's difficult for some to arrive at that conclusion. Especially when our leaders cannot do so.
You know, "Shun the unbeliever....SHUN!"

Or "Tar and feather those with different thinking...let's ride them out of town on a rail"

You know what I mean...
 

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I just want your views backed by Scriptural references on the subject and what it means to you.

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Noone on Earth brings new revelation, that isn't already revealed through the Word of God, which is fullest revelation given to man. Through the moving and operation of the Holy Ghost, I Pray what we say here brings the truth of these Revelations, truth by truth, or precept upon precept, to the heart of the hearer. Lay what we say before the feet of Jesus (Word of God) and compare, the Bible is Always truth, so if they don't match, we need to reevaluate our stance. What we say or do here will have lasting impact upon the believer and sinner alike. We most certainly have freedom of speech, but any true christian will weigh what they say against the Word of God and if they don't agree God is not in error, and we need to pray for understanding. Those that have more meat of the Word can help those who are struggling, if done with humility, peace and love. I don't mind a peaceful debate, but when we start to argue amongst each other that is not the Spirit of God. God Bless and Peace to you all. (This signature is in general and not pointing fingers at anyone at anytime. God Bless.)
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I say no.
The gifts of the HS had a purpose. That purpose has been accomplished. They were given to the apostles and only the apostles could give them to someone else by the laying of hands.

The purpose was to establish the church by:
Guiding the apostles into all truth. When Jesus ascended, the apostles really didn't understand what was going on.
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Confirm the word the apostles spoke was from God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Couple of examples:
12 Now many signs and wonders were regularly done among the people by the hands of the apostles.
6 And the crowds with one accord paid attention to what was being said by Philip, when they heard him and saw the signs that he did.


They were only given to others by the laying of the apostles hands.
18 Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money,
6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands,

If gifts are given without the laying of the apostles hands, then this verse doesn't make sense. Wouldn't Paul just say pray that God gives them spiritual gifts.
11 For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to strengthen you—

Spiritual gifts were to help establish the church during its infancy until the whole of God's revelation was revealed. Kinda like training wheels.
11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
To only hear a portion of God's word here and then a portion there was not fully seeing.
12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

There is nothing else left to reveal. It was revealed in the first century and now it's up to us to read and believe.
3 Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.

Do we really need spiritual gifts to be believers.
29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

I'm a believer to my core but I have never seen a miracle. I believe in providence and therefore I pray for God's help but a supernatural impossible to explain miracle, I have never seen one and don't need to. I believe.

I find it interesting that the only gift I hear about is speaking in tongues. There were other gifts but tongues are not easy to disprove. Is anything new going to be revealed that the apostles didn't reveal. The lost revelation. No, we are very fortunate today to have all the words of the HS right in our hands. The time of bits and pieces are over.
 

JohnDB

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So you don't really want to know if you're in error so you can correct your error, you just want want people to say where they think you're in error so you can prove them wrong. Doesn't that about sum it up?
Oh yeah....
Got caught up in the wife wanting breakfast...
But I did want to check in and see how things are going with you.
What you up to?