As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

Listened to this last night. Good stuff. He is very much like our pastor teacher.

But yet only for males.

Yes she was. But she is "inherently" a sinner because she inherited it from the father.

Nowhere in all the Bible, no passage, verse, type, metaphor or parable declares or insinuates in any way
that sin is inherited from the woman.

Only men are commanded to be circumcised. A sign. Of something that only applies to the man.

Something interesting that pertains to the topic. Sin is inherited from the father via the blood. And that is how Jesus was sin free even though He had a human mother. Jesus had the blood of God flowing through His veins. And it was that cleansing blood that was poured out in order to save mankind.

"One of the placenta’s main functions is to serve as the interface between the mother's and fetus's bloodstreams.
Nutrients and oxygen from the mother's blood pass into the baby's bloodstream through the placenta. Meanwhile, the baby excretes carbon dioxide and waste products through the umbilical blood vessels. BUT THE BLOOD OF THE FETUS AND THE BLOOD OF THE MOTHER NEVER MEET. The placenta handles the exchange."
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/discoveries/placenta.html

This lecture will certainly answer your immediate questions. And more than that, answer questions that you have not (nor will likely ever) begun to so much as ask.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/21611322382/

I am auditioning this lecture as of today. And believe me.....it is EPIC in scope and devastating in terms of impact.

One key point in this sermon that I have a tendency to forget or overlook......God was sorry........He was weeping. As a perfect judge He has to carry out the sentence. He is angry, yet weeping as He has to carry out judgement. Our God cares deeply, and isn't some unfeeling tyrant in the sky.

Genesis 6:6
6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.

Is that true only if the baby is a boy or does that also include girls?

Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

The text plainly says the children of the fallen angels and human women are the Nephilim. They were endowed with massive size and power. I believe the Greek Legends derive from these guys. Although I am not saying all that the Greek Legends say is accurate.

But it does mention "AND ALSO AFTWERWARD"...

So what comes also afterward? The text says the Giants, or Nephilim come after. After what? The flood.

Does this mean MORE fallen angels mate with women after the flood? I don't think so. Seems very unlikely, although possible. It appears not ALL the angels that fell with Satan committed this sin that Jude and Peter talk about. But they would have seen the immediate, incredibly harsh judgement, and place where those that did are kept. Tartarus!

The word is used only ONE time in Scripture, and in most translations is usually rendered as "hell". It's unfortunate because this confuses people. Most of the western world think of hell as the lake of fire. That word is Gehenna in the NT.

2 Peter 2:4 New King James Version (NKJV)
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell (TARTARUS) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

So what do we know about "Tartarus"? Really not too much. This from Wikipedia of all places:

In Greek mythology, Tartarus (/ˈtɑːrtərəs/; Ancient Greek: Τάρταρος, Tártaros)[1] is the deep abyss that is used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked and as the prison for the Titans. Tartarus is the place where, according to Plato's Gorgias (c. 400 BC), souls are judged after death and where the wicked received divine punishment. Tartarus is also considered to be a primordial force or deity alongside entities such as the Earth, Night, and Time.

This definition is not totally accurate. There is no Biblical proof that any humans went to Tartarus, Tartarus is not Hades/Sheol, but it's does paint an awful picture of where these particular fallen angels currently are.


The point is, the rest of the angels wouldn't want any part of that place.

The True God who is the author of the scriptures, has never
taught that false gods and the things false gods teach is true. What I'm saying is that when the scriptures use the word tartarus God wasn't saying that the titans really existed so he was saying that a place like tartarus actually existed. The word tartaroo twas used at 2 Peter 2:4 and it doesn't mean that the angels that sinned were actually thrown into some mythological place called tartarus because it didn't actually exist. 2 Peter 2:4 instead indicates that the angels that sinned were abased by God from their heavenly positions which they held before they sinned, losing their privileges and then they were delivered over to a condition of deepest mental darkness respecting God's spiritual light concerning his purposes. These angels that sinned are forever bound to not ever be able to materialize flesh and blood bodies again or receive God's spiritual enlightenment.

The True God who is the author of the scriptures, has never
taught that false gods and the things false gods teach is true. What I'm saying is that when the scriptures use the word tartarus God wasn't saying that the titans really existed so he was saying that a place like tartarus actually existed. The word tartaroo twas used at 2 Peter 2:4 and it doesn't mean that the angels that sinned were actually thrown into some mythological place called tartarus because it didn't actually exist. 2 Peter 2:4 instead indicates that the angels that sinned were abased by God from their heavenly positions which they held before they sinned, losing their privileges and then they were delivered over to a condition of deepest mental darkness respecting God's spiritual light concerning his purposes. These angels that sinned are forever bound to not ever be able to materialize flesh and blood bodies again or receive God's spiritual enlightenment.

See Isaiah 24:21-22.

First punished by imprisonment and then punished AGAIN after many days.
Tartarus then lake of fire.

No.

Complete private interpretation ya got there.

I'm not going to take what belongs to false God's and say that a place like tartarus actually exists because just as the titans don't actually exist neither does tartarus. Tartarus was just used as symbolism

Its simply Greek jargon that happens to fit reasonably well to the fact of the matter.

The idea is PRISON. Nothing about false gods is there.

Its simply Greek jargon that happens to fit reasonably well to the fact of the matter.

The idea is PRISON. Nothing about false gods is there.

I understand what you believe. It's just that I understand that tartarus comes from Greek mythology, that it was a prison like place that when the Greek gods Zeus, Ares, etc defeated the mythology Greek titans, they punished them by throwing them and imprisoning them in tartarus. Like I said Tartarus comes from Greek mythology. So just as I don't believe the Greek gods zeus, Ares and so forth truly ever existed and I never believed that the titans ever existed so I don't believe that tartarus ever really existed. Tartarus is from Greek mythology, it from false gods. So just because the scriptures used the word tartarus, doesn't mean in any way that God was saying by using the word tartarus that it was a real place that actually existed just like the Greek gods, Zeus, Ares, Apollo, or that the titans, Oceans Coeus, Hyperion, ever actually existed. So of course there was never an actual place called tartarus that actually ever existed. If others want to believe these false gods from Greek mythology truly actually existed and that tartarus was a real actual place that exists that's their choice. I wil! Continue to believe false gods don't actually exist. So I will continue to believe that when the scriptures use the word tartarus, it doesn't mean that the True God was teaching us that it's actual real place where the Greek titans are at. I will continue to believe that God simply used the word symbolically to help us understand that these angels that sinned are in a condition of dense spiritual darkness. So these angels are put under restraint and deprived of any divine enlightenment

Nobody in their right mind thinks that using the word tartarus also invokes the notion of believing in false Greek gods. Ridiculous. Peter was not an idiot.

Which is why I was saying Peter wasn't saying these wicked angels were in a actual real place called tartarus,

because just as these Greek gods and the titans don't really exist, how could the Greek gods throw the titans in a real place that was a prison. Since the Greek gods and the titans don't really exist neither does tartarus really exist as a prison.

So what I was saying is that Peter used the Greek word tartarus, not to teach that it was a real place but he used it to teach that God has placed these wicked angels in a condition

I understand what you believe. It's just that I understand that tartarus comes from Greek mythology, that it was a prison like place that when the Greek gods Zeus, Ares, etc defeated the mythology Greek titans, they punished them by throwing them and imprisoning them in tartarus. Like I said Tartarus comes from Greek mythology. So just as I don't believe the Greek gods zeus, Ares and so forth truly ever existed and I never believed that the titans ever existed so I don't believe that tartarus ever really existed. Tartarus is from Greek mythology, it from false gods. So just because the scriptures used the word tartarus, doesn't mean in any way that God was saying by using the word tartarus that it was a real place that actually existed just like the Greek gods, Zeus, Ares, Apollo, or that the titans, Oceans Coeus, Hyperion, ever actually existed. So of course there was never an actual place called tartarus that actually ever existed. If others want to believe these false gods from Greek mythology truly actually existed and that tartarus was a real actual place that exists that's their choice. I wil! Continue to believe false gods don't actually exist. So I will continue to believe that when the scriptures use the word tartarus, it doesn't mean that the True God was teaching us that it's actual real place where the Greek titans are at. I will continue to believe that God simply used the word symbolically to help us understand that these angels that sinned are in a condition of dense spiritual darkness. So these angels are put under restraint and deprived of any divine enlightenment

Says who? This is YOUR private interpretation. The Word says after they sinned they were tossed into Tartarus. Who are you to alter that?


Virtually EVERY ancient religion or cult, from the Babylonians to the Mayans, believed in a place of torment that the damned dead went called some form of Hell. So because they believed that it means that there is NO place called Hell?

Back to, SAYS WHO?! You reasoned that in your own mind, with no Scriptural support, and then just say "Make It So!".