Christian Nationalist Movement in the United States

Hi brethren,

PBS did a story on the Christian Nationalism movement here in the USA, and I would like to receive more feedback on this organization. Our speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, is apparently tied to this organization, and some Christian Nationalists are accused of being involved in the January 6, 2021 insurrection in Washington.

My initial reaction is we as Christians do not have a lot of direct success when we get too tied in with secular government, but I would like to receive other perspectives on this movement.

Here's a short excerpt from a New York Times' writer:

Opinion | Christian Nationalism ‘Is No Longer Operating Beneath the Surface’ - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

The article is behind a paywall. I am not about to give the NYT any money.

Wikipedia --
Christian nationalism is a type of religious nationalism that is affiliated with Christianity. It primarily focuses on the internal politics of society, such as legislating civil and criminal laws that reflect their view of Christianity and the role of religion/s in political and social life.[1]

In countries with a state church, Christian nationalists seek to preserve the status of a Christian state by holding an antidisestablishmentarian position to perpetuate the Church in national politics.[2][3][4]

Christian nationalism supports the presence of Christian symbols in the public square, and state patronage for the practice and display of religion, such as Christmas as a national holiday, school prayer, the exhibition of nativity scenes during Christmastide, and the Christian Cross on Good Friday.[5][6] Christian nationalism draws political support from the broader Christian right, but not exclusively, given the broad support for observing Christmas as a national holiday in many countries.[7]

United States

The Christian Liberty Party and the American Redoubt movement ― both organized and inspired by members of the Constitution Party ― are early 21st century examples of political tendencies which are rooted in Christian nationalism, with the latter advocating a degree of separatism.[22][23] The New Columbia Movement is an organization in the United States that identifies as being aligned with Christian nationalism.[24][25] Christian nationalists believe that the US is meant to be a Christian nation and want to "take back" the US for God.[26][27]

Author Bradley Onishi has described this theologically-infused political ideology as a "national renewal project that envisions a pure American body that is heterosexual, white, native-born, that speaks English as a first language, and that is thoroughly patriarchal."[23] Experts say that Christian-associated support for right-wing politicians and social policies, such as legislation which is related to immigration, gun control and poverty is best understood as Christian nationalism, rather than evangelicalism per se.[26][28] Some studies of white evangelicals show that, among people who self-identify as evangelical Christians, the more they attend church, the more they pray, and the more they read the Bible, the less support they have for nationalist (though not socially conservative) policies.[28] Non-nationalistic evangelicals ideologically agree with Christian nationalists in areas such as gender roles, and sexuality.[28]

A study which was conducted in May 2022 showed that the strongest base of support for Christian nationalism comes from Republicans who identify as Evangelical or born again Christians.[29][30] Of this demographic group, 78% are in favor of formally declaring that the United States should be a Christian nation, versus only 48% of Republicans overall. Age is also a factor, with over 70% of Republicans from the Baby Boomer and Silent Generations supporting the United States officially becoming a Christian nation. According to Politico, the polling also found that sentiments of white grievance are highly correlated with Christian nationalism: "White respondents who say that members of their race have faced more discrimination than others are most likely to embrace a Christian America. Roughly 59% of all Americans who say white people have been discriminated against ... favor declaring the U.S. a Christian nation, compared to 38% of all Americans."[29][31]

Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene has referred to herself as a Christian nationalist. Fellow congresswomen Lauren Boebert and Mary Miller have also expressed support for Christian nationalism.[32][33] Politician Doug Mastriano is a prominent figure in the fundamentalist Christian nationalist movement, and has called the separation of church and state a myth.[34][35]

I am not aware of "this movement". I have probably spoken to tens of thousands of people while preaching the gospel without running into any of these.

I also visit every Evangelical church in our city as part of our ministry and am not aware of any one that is part of "this movement". I don't doubt that there are a few people out there that have printed books that are inflammatory, but suspect the purpose is to discredit evangelical christians and conservative christians.

Is there something wrong with an elected member to being a person of faith?

I have heard Marjorie Taylor Green on many interviews, she comes across as a very strong willed opinionated woman who is doing what she thinks is best for the country and those who elected her. I believe she most likely is a Christian, but have never once heard her espousing some kind of religious movement.

Mike Lindell is another one who is very open about his faith in the Lord Jesus, he is involved in several ministries and he is also running a business and he is also concerned with election integrity. I don't see how that is an issue or could be characterized by a new religion.

I went to six "Stop the Steal" rallies. These involved people from many different groups, with about half of them being people of faith. But I never heard anyone trying to espouse this "Christian nationalism" theology they are talking about.

Right now there is a whole lot of lies flying around. What works for me is I don't let someone else tell me what other people think or believe. I go to see for myself.

When I was a boy I asked what this PBS station was? I was told it was publicly funded.

"Is that why they're always begging for money like one of the TV preachers?"

Well it's more like they get tax $ to exist.
I later found out that in spite of the cool Dr Who episodes, they are essentially a gt propaganda station for TV. That explains why the leftist slant was on any opinions, except maybe Red Green.
Since then, they gobbled up every major network and use our taxes to spread propaganda back at us.
Can you really blame the European farmers using manure spreaders to spray it back at their tax funded palaces they work in at the farmers' expenses?

Notice the terms that they use....."INSURRECTION", "GREATER ATTACK THAN ON PEARL HARBOR IN WW2," "RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS", "TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE TRRISTS".

Now those on the Texas border are all considered that, biometrically scanned and in a watch list for future use. They match it up with their driver's licenses and now they have a docier of every detail of life on the poor folks trying to stop the flood of invaders u til their gov takes charge of the situation and gets it under control.

What do you think about that?

people need to do their own research and take other's words for things.

this is not 15-20 years ago. the t v media cannot be trusted.

This so called national-ist movement is nothing but the alfabet groups labeling and creating a new boogy man to conquer. It's military science. The C👁️A uses the same methods on countless countries to accomplish their goals.

Silver fox,
I am often direct when talking politics and current events, usually due to time constraints and trying to be clear enough to be understood without beating around the bush 20 pages. So, no argument from me as to whatever your stand is on this issue. Im sometimes opinionated on certain issues, but have grace for other views.

My main take away is that the new democrat voters flooding into the states are well planned operations. Those running those ops will use terminologies that demonize their opposition. They will probably stage a violent action and blame it on those who showed up at the border. They did that j6 and many times in the past. Around here sometimes it's hard to have a meet and greet church picnic without infiltrators showing up to instigate their deception. You would not believe it until you saw it.

Thanks for your post. Christian nationalism goes back to Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority. And Pat Robertson with his Christian Coalition. It's the marriage of Christianity and politics with the goal of making the US a "Christian nation" once again through the political and legal processes. They have a strong belief that the US was founded on a covenant relationship with God; that the US is the new Israel as God's chosen people. Back in the early days it was relatively benign, but lately they've become much more aggressive, as was demonstrated on January 6. This picture says it all.

It sure does. I was there on Jan 6th, got there at 5am and from 5am till 1pm I was there outside the whitehouse and I never saw anyone with this picture. Strange huh? Did they just wait until the invasion of the capital to pull it out? I'm wondering if Trump was not the only target of this false flag attack, but more than likely Christians were too.

I would add I took many pictures and videos while at the Whitehouse, if anyone had been holding this up high I would have caught it on my videos.

Isn't trying to usher in the 2nd coming of Christ through changing the political landscape to Christian a distinctly Roman Catholic belief?

That said our politics are rife with corruption and ungodliness from the school board go the presidency. We complain and grumble about it but what do we do about it?

We need more godly men and women in office. Starting with the school boards.

Imagine what kind of change could be affected if we as believers were to pray for the King to open the doors and share what He has done for us with just 1 person a day. That would be 365 people a year. Did you know that planting that seed would lead to over 12 people coming to know Him.

Want a revolution. That's how we do it.
In just 10 years starting with 10 like-minded believers in every congressional district we can reverse the course of our nation.

There's Christian Nationalism for you.

Christ-ian: The name given to followers of Christ by unbelievers because they saw them taking ground and territory as if soldiers of a great general.

Very interesting, i did not know who Jerry Falwell was and his resume on Wiki says a lot.
What i've seen about this topic, mixing religion with politics or nationalism, is a phenomenon which happens to a lot of countries throughout history.
Strong countries from a military point of view and major empires throughout in history.
They always want to fuse religion with politics or military.
It's just something that happens and repeats itself and as long as it doesn't get too extreme, i think it's just par for the course.

You bought the book, lol!

lol, no. But I did watch a couple of his videos. I've been researching Christian nationalism a long time.

Christians moving beyond having influence to coveting power with influence.

But I see the failure of influence, in that so many churches have been compromised over time.

What i've seen in regards to this subject is that many influential people and leaders throughout history have always tried to turn Christianity into a version of Islam, while true Christians (and Saints) have been martyred and sacrificed themselves by showing the highest virtue of NOT being influenced by the world and politics and living the teaching of Christ.

In modern world this includes many topics, like trans, immigration, healthcare, abortion, etc.
We will accept the sinner and unbeliever in our church, but we will not change our lives if they try to influence us.

There are several professors, one from Calvin College who is very negative and put Christians in a very negative light, horrible book.
So there is that flip side to be aware of, some people use this"movement" to tarnish some well meaning Christians who are dismayed societal collapse.

Agree though, it is important to be aware of this movement, some have made it a hindrance to the Gospel message.

In this case I think the ones trying to "turn Christianity into a version of Islam," are known by 3 letter acronyms.
It was easy for them to pull it off with the Seventh Day Adventist cult in Texas decades ago. Now they are demonizing every group of people that might not agree with their agendas.

I agree with this first part, but sorry adamantly disagree with this, when a group of believers comes together it is for those who are in the faith, big churches have caused lots of problems being seeker sensitive and all that.

The world is the place of harvest not the church, I think the writings of Paul show how the assembled group of believers needs to be protected.

I understand what you mean but if you take this mindset you sort of become the definition of nationalism because you want to create a walled group or an empire and to protect that you need a lot of weapons too.
My understanding and approach is that i can be with an atheist or a trans person without being influenced by their choices while showing my resolution in faith to them, without any force, weapon or walled garden.

I do not see that, I have been a member of a house church, it was awesome, it was a place to be re-energized, pray, study with people of the same mind...One in Christ.


The world is where we work and show our faith. A person who denounces God should not be a member of "ekklesia".. congregation.

You can be friends at the coffee shop.