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I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
 
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Also please provide bible verses to back it up. Thanks.
 
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I haven't been to Israel myself, but I have heard from several sources that, in general, the Israeli Jews are not particularly welcoming to Christians. Most people there are not Christians, but rather 'secular' Jews.
 
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I haven't been to Israel myself, but I have heard from several sources that, in general, the Israeli Jews are not particularly welcoming to Christians. Most people there are not Christians, but rather 'secular' Jews.
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well i didn’t know that wow
 
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I second what Dino said.
Also Poinsetta, there's another thread in the forum right now about where folks have traveled and i mentioned the phrase "Culture shock" when you try to get to know the locals more.
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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2 percent of Israel citizens are Christian.Most of that 2 percent are Arabs.Most of Israeli Jews are secular .Israels present government is right wing religious and not Christian friendly.
I believe the persecution of Israels christians is not far off..Jesus said they would be beaten in the synagogues and persecuted from city to city before he comes.Scripture shows the christians in Israel being imprisoned and killed in Daniel 11.

Mark 13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

Mathew 10
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come

Daniel 11:33-35
Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.
During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.
And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.




It sounds like the country of Israel will be about as tolerable for christians as it was for Christ.
And I believe that time is only a couple years away.
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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I have been in Israel, before i was a Christian, and i like Israel and i see also they are Gods choosen nation. But we should not forget that they are jews: some liberal, some orthodox, some worldly and in theire eyes Jesus was and is not the Messajah. So they are not Christians. From their culture they are very mixed, because coming from many parts of the world. The only they have common is that they are jews.
So you find as in our countrys friendly and not do friendly people.
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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They are people born with a sin nature and a choice to make just like we are.

Poinsetta said:
Also please provide bible verses to back it up. Thanks.
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Romans 3:23
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Hosea 4:
4Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people are as they that strive with the priest. 5Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother. 6My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. 7As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame. 8They eat up the sin of my people, and they set their heart on their iniquity. 9And there shall be, like people, like priest: and I will punish them for their ways, and reward them their doings. 10For they shall eat, and not have enough: they shall commit whoredom, and shall not increase: because they have left off to take heed to the LORD.
 
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Eli1 said:
I second what Dino said.
Also Poinsetta, there's another thread in the forum right now about where folks have traveled and i mentioned the phrase "Culture shock" when you try to get to know the locals more.
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thanks, good point
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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well I've been trying to say who Isreal is for several weeks here, and I've been called ever name under the sun here.
And that was even tho, I was telling everyone they will be charged with genocide soon. And they was,

Theres also an Isreal where by, Jacob was called Isreal.. and it's believe the children of Isreal today are Christians.

But yet Christians bless Isreal the Jews who kill 15000 children in a month, spit at Cross and kill Palestine Christian. But I wonder are they brainwashed Christians. Brainwashed by Zionist Christians. There known as the evangelicals. There everywhere.

So I guess I'm either in a place full of Jews.

Or quite alot of people are brainwashed.

But then I heard people must bless Isreal in order to not be cursed.


But like you say who is Isreal.

Well as far as I'm aware Isreal should be owed by the hebrews who are a type of Christian. The line of Judha in my book should be hebrews.

But no apparently there Jews.

But yeah I guess Im anti Jewish for saying so.

But no I ain't anti anything I'm just me.

Basically the majority of Jews are split into two groups these days, theres the religious Jews and then theres the Zionist Jews, who are of a political type, but use religion as a weapon, who are backed by Zionist Christians, who also use religion as a weapon.
Well it just so turns out there many Zionist Christians here. Some know they are and most don't.


Luckily there's the messianic Jew, but I really don't see a lot of them but at least they exists.

But anyhow I really think Isreal belongs to the hebrews.


Hope that helps 👍
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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All who truly believe God comprise the true Israel. All who praise Him are true Jews and not of that assembly of Satan who say they are Jews but are not.
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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Israel as a whole does not believe in Jesus Christ.

The majority of the population do not believe even in God.

At the end of 2022, Christians made up 1.9% of the Israeli population, numbering approximately 185,000. (wiki)

So you can see why many in Israel would brush you off.
 
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All who truly believe God comprise the true Israel. All who praise Him are true Jews and not of that assembly of Satan who say they are Jews but are not.
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Believing in God gets you nowhere.

A Christian believes in Jesus Christ, the confession of the name matters.
 
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Israel as a whole does not believe in Jesus Christ.

The majority of the population do not believe even in God.

At the end of 2022, Christians made up 1.9% of the Israeli population, numbering approximately 185,000. (wiki)

So you can see why many in Israel would brush you off.
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After they spit at you...
 
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well I've been trying to say who Isreal is for several weeks here, and I've been called ever name under the sun here.
And that was even tho, I was telling everyone they will be charged with genocide soon. And they was,

Theres also an Isreal where by, Jacob was called Isreal.. and it's believe the children of Isreal today are Christians.

But yet Christians bless Isreal the Jews who kill 15000 children in a month, spit at Cross and kill Palestine Christian. But I wonder are they brainwashed Christians. Brainwashed by Zionist Christians. There known as the evangelicals. There everywhere.

So I guess I'm either in a place full of Jews.

Or quite alot of people are brainwashed.

But then I heard people must bless Isreal in order to not be cursed.


But like you say who is Isreal.

Well as far as I'm aware Isreal should be owed by the hebrews who are a type of Christian. The line of Judha in my book should be hebrews.

But no apparently there Jews.

But yeah I guess Im anti Jewish for saying so.

But no I ain't anti anything I'm just me.

Basically the majority of Jews are split into two groups these days, theres the religious Jews and then theres the Zionist Jews, who are of a political type, but use religion as a weapon, who are backed by Zionist Christians, who also use religion as a weapon.
Well it just so turns out there many Zionist Christians here. Some know they are and most don't.


Luckily there's the messianic Jew, but I really don't see a lot of them but at least they exists.

But anyhow I really think Isreal belongs to the hebrews.


Hope that helps 👍
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Messianic Jews believe, with a few exceptions, that Jesus taught and reaffirmed the Torah and that it remains fully in force. (wiki)

This means that Messianic Jews are fully under the law of Moses.
 
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The only law for believers of Jesus Yeshua re taken from stone and inscribed upon our hearts. I believe these commandments are those mentioned when in Romans we are taught that our faith affirms the law. This is written for some reason is it not?
 
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JaumeJ said:
The only law for believers of Jesus Yeshua re taken from stone and inscribed upon our hearts. I believe these commandments are those mentioned when in Romans we are taught that our faith affirms the law. This is written for some reason is it not?
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Depends on whether the 'Law of Christ' is the law of Moses.
 
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Poinsetta said:
I've recently visited a forum on Discord named "Israel" it also had the Israel flag. Wow, they were not happy people. They were mean, negative and off key with Christianity. This made me sad at first, and it made me think further...: who really is Israel and Jerusalem and Judah? Who really are these cities? Can I just go to Israel and assume everyone is friendly and Christian? Maybe not. :( So who really are they? Thanks.
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Romans 11:28
In relation to the gospel they are enemies on your account, but in relation to God’s choice they are beloved on account of the fathers.
 
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