Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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p_rehbein

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Things he does/says such as this:

Donald Trump on Wednesday stepped up his attacks on Nikki Haley as he issued a threat to every single person who donates to her campaign for the Republican presidential nomination.
“Anybody that makes a ‘Contribution’ to Birdbrain, from this moment forth, will be permanently barred from the MAGA camp,” he wrote on his Truth Social website. “We don’t want them, and will not accept them.”


olitics·HuffPost
Trump's Wild 'Mob Boss' Threat Against Every Single Nikki Haley Donor Backfires
 

p_rehbein

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Much has been made of the shortcomings of generative AI models, and their ability (or lack thereof) to create photorealistic images. As we well know by now, generative models particularly struggle with hands. Although clearly nobody has told Donald Trump.
The potential Republican nominee has shared an image of himself praying in church (because of course he has) which bears all the hallmarks of an AI-generated image: too much soft focus, overly-cinematic lighting, and an anatomically incorrect number of digits.


olitics·Creative Bloq
Of course Donald Trump shared a botched AI 'photo' of himself
 

p_rehbein

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“If you think of him as an incumbent, this showing tonight’s weak, right?” he said. “He should be doing better.”
Hume then issued a warning to Republicans about the former president.
“But there’s weakness there with Trump, there’s no doubt about it, even if he wins easily and going away,” he said. “Look, he lost in 2020. His candidates lost in 2022. I mean, he has a lot of losses on his book.”



tics·HuffPost
Fox News' Brit Hume Exposes Key Trump 'Weakness' In Blunt Warning To Republicans
 

Nehemiah6

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“Look, he lost in 2020. His candidates lost in 2022. I mean, he has a lot of losses on his book.”
There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between "losing" and having your elections stolen. The majority of conservatives believe -- and rightly so -- that both elections were stolen. How is it that you still believe the Leftist lies?

So don't pay any attention to these Never Trumpers. Brit Hume is a fan of Biden, so why wouldn't he denigrate Trump? And FOX News is a part of the lying MSM crowd, that is why they booted Tucker Carlson.
 

Nehemiah6

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“Anybody that makes a ‘Contribution’ to Birdbrain, from this moment forth, will be permanently barred from the MAGA camp,”
There's nothing wrong with this. If a person supports Nikki Haley, they automatically support everything that is destroying America. So why should they pretend to be a part of Make America Great Again (MAGA)?

In New Hampshire Birdbrain Nikki Haley received 70% of her support from Democrats. So what is 70% of a 43.2% bogus result? that is 30.24%. Now subtract that from 43.2% and what do you have? That is ONLY 12.96% (let's say 13%). And we don't know the number of Independents who voted for her. Had New Hampshire restricted voting to only Republicans, Nikki Haley might have received only half of that (say 6%).

So why is she still hanging in there? Simply to sabotage Trump (and no doubt with the encouragement of Democrats). Some of the billionaires who donated to her campaign have withdrawn their support, and almost everyone is telling Haley to quit. So it is partly ego and partly spite. The problem is that the lying MSM never do any investigative journalism to show the public what has really happened. In fact they twist the truth for their partisan politics.
 

PennEd

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There's nothing wrong with this. If a person supports Nikki Haley, they automatically support everything that is destroying America. So why should they pretend to be a part of Make America Great Again (MAGA)?
I agree.
And simply cannot understand why people continue to look at personal flaws, and for sure Trump has many, versus the PLATFORM and accomplishments of President Trump!

The cult of personality has for decades now outweighed the platforms and even the constitution in so many people's minds. Nikki Haley is a globalist, and to hear her speak on Social Security is disgusting.

How can a politician with a straight face talk about SS going "insolvent"!?

We are 34 TRILLION dollars in debt. These same politicians have ZERO problem printing more money for Zelensky, illegal aliens, 100s of different welfare programs, military, and on and on. But ONLY Social Security will become insolvent!?

Listen, I don't like the premise of SS one bit, and would have been glad to opt out. But how can you demand people wait yrs more to collect? They could die before getting a single penny of what they put in. And now you're going to ask the young to contribute, with them KNOWING they'll be in their 70s before they can collect?

Why on earth would anybody support a RHINO globalist like Nikki Haley?
 

p_rehbein

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,,.and, yet, another General Election is approaching when I do not have a Candidate for President to vote for. Do not see any that are worthy to be President. It is so sad that our Nation can not come up with at least ONE PERSON worthy to be called President. Oh well...

MARANATHA!
 

Cameron143

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,,.and, yet, another General Election is approaching when I do not have a Candidate for President to vote for. Do not see any that are worthy to be President. It is so sad that our Nation can not come up with at least ONE PERSON worthy to be called President. Oh well...

MARANATHA!
God is going to choose someone. Israel objected to Cyrus as their deliverer. Didn't phase God a bit.
 

ZNP

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I have a great idea for a campaign ad for Biden

Have him drive a tank down near the Texas border leading the war on Texas! It is a sure fire way to build support for the "big guy".

His ad will go viral!


"Biden takes the lead"

 

Smoke

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There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between "losing" and having your elections stolen. The majority of conservatives believe -- and rightly so -- that both elections were stolen. How is it that you still believe the Leftist lies?

So don't pay any attention to these Never Trumpers. Brit Hume is a fan of Biden, so why wouldn't he denigrate Trump? And FOX News is a part of the lying MSM crowd, that is why they booted Tucker Carlson.
I've heard that silly logic as to why FOX booted Carlson. So testing your logic and reasoning, do you think Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, and Jesse Watters are getting canned soon?
 

Smoke

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I think most people here would think highly of Ben Shapiro. He doesn't think the election was stolen. Do you think he's secretly a leftist? I don't think so. There are a lot of people on the right who don't think the election was stolen. Ben's case is that perhaps it was stolen, but Trump didn't bring anything to prove that in court. In fact, Ben laughs that Trump didn't use most of his false claims he made at his speeches in court for a reason... He knows it's not true.
 

ZNP

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I think most people here would think highly of Ben Shapiro. He doesn't think the election was stolen. Do you think he's secretly a leftist? I don't think so. There are a lot of people on the right who don't think the election was stolen. Ben's case is that perhaps it was stolen, but Trump didn't bring anything to prove that in court. In fact, Ben laughs that Trump didn't use most of his false claims he made at his speeches in court for a reason... He knows it's not true.
When did the whole country become a country of stupid people.

I don't care if this person thinks the election was stolen or not. If 50% of the country thinks it was stolen you have a problem. Do a complete audit.

Audit doesn't mean "recount".

1. You have to do a canvass. If you have mail in ballots coming from an address you have to determine that the people at that address equal the number of ballots received from that address, that they are registered voters and that they mailed in ballots.

2. You have to clean up the voting rolls. Remove everyone who has deceased and moved out of the state.

3. We have to have a complete forensic audit of the machines used to count the votes, if Dominion refuses then you cannot use them in future elections. It has already been demonstrated that the machines can very easily be hacked, this was done during a trial.

4. You have to look at evidence that these machines are connected to the internet. That is a very clear violation of the law and the contract concerning these.

5. We need to do a forensic analysis of the ballots. Some of the ballots were on paper of a very specific size with a watermark. It has been alledged that many of the mail in ballots did not have the watermark, those should be annulled.

6. We need to evaluate the signature and compare it to an official signature. It has been alledged that the vast majority of signatures don't match. If that is true you have a very big problem because the signature and the ballot are not kept together. The only righteous way to respond to this is if the number of mail in ballots that are annulled is more than the difference in the election then the result of that election must be cancelled.

When will people get it through their head, the people making these complaints are not going to shut up, they are not going away, and if you don't do an audit you are simply driving this country to a civil war and have the appearance of evil.

Do you know why they objected to an audit? Because it would cost millions of dollars. You could focus exclusively on the ten states with the closest results, or you could focus on three states that Trump lost by the closest margin assuming that if you disprove it for those three states this will all go away, or you can do it for all 50 states. The cheapest would be less than $50 million and the most expensive option around $200 million. Now these same people crying that this is too expensive have no problem sending $120 billion to Ukraine and are demanding another $60 billion. So $50 million would be about 0.028% of what they have no problem sending to Ukraine.

For people having a hard time with big numbers this would be like a guy accused of cheating on his taxes who makes 100k a year spending $27 on an audit to prove he is innocent.
 

ZNP

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Suppose the US government which makes $5 trillion a year in tax revenue decided to pay $50 million for audits of the election to help the rest of the country have confidence in our system. This could be $5 million to the ten states with the thinnest margin of victory in the last election. The states themselves would probably have to contribute a little themselves as well, but that is fair. Doing it this way you get the benefit that the forensic audit of the dominion machines could be used by all ten as well as any NSA analysis of whether or not they were attached to the internet.

This would be like a guy who makes 100k a year who has been accused of stealing and could lose his job paying $1 to clear his name. Is that too much to pay?
 

Nehemiah6

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Ben's case is that perhaps it was stolen, but Trump didn't bring anything to prove that in court.
What did Ben Shhapiro have to say about "2000 Mules"? "At last, bestselling author Dinesh D'Souza exposes the powerful evidence of voting fraud that you were told didn't exist. Also, a major motion picture documentary." https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/2-000-Mules/Dinesh-DSouza/9781684514465. All the MSM said that this had been "debunked" but Simon and Schuster is a respected publishing company, and you can read a summary of their opinion on that book at this link.

Also SCOTUS refused to see or hear the evidence on election fraud on the flimsy ground that Texas had "no standing in the matter", when every state had a standing in how election fraud would place an illegitimate president in the White House.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-supreme-court-election-results/

Also, a lot of detailed evidence from experts was published and the MSM ignored that. But there is a current case in Georgia which proves -- without the shadow of a doubt -- that Dominion Voting Machines perpetrated election fraud.
Part 2: Full Scope of Dominion Voting Machine Hack in Federal Court is FAR Worse than Just the BIC Pen Hack – Audit Logs Can Be Edited
But there was much more revealed in Judge Totenberg’s courtroom regarding the vulnerabilities of these electronic voting devices.
To summarize Part 1, Dr. Halderman was able to use a simple BIC ball-point pen to reboot a Dominion ICX BMD by simply inserting it into the power button on the back of the machine and hold it down for five seconds. This rebooted the machine into Safe Mode and allowed Super User access, granting the attacker almost unlimited abilities to manipulate data on the machine.
Professor Halderman was also able to use a Smart card purchased for $10 online and a $20 USB Smart card Reader from Amazon to program voter cards that could be used over and over again, county-wide. He also made a poll-worker card and, most importantly, a technician card that would also grant “Super User access.”


Now we also have Pennsylvania legislators filing a lawsuit:
Pennsylvania State Legislators File Comprehensive Lawsuit Against Biden Regime, Governor Shapiro, and Dept. of State over Election Law Violations
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ors-file-comprehensive-lawsuit-against-biden/
 

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I wouldn't believe it if MSN changed their minds and said that Trump should be prez.... They lie about everything else, why not this? It is my confirmed (by me) opinion that MSN, CBS, NBC AND all those other alphabetical IDiots are NOT to be trusted in anything they say... not even the weather! but that's just me.
 

Nehemiah6

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Taibbi: Is The Electoral Fix Already In?
The Biden campaign, stuck in a seemingly irreversible poll freefall, has put all its rhetorical chips on the theme of “protecting democracy.” Biden mentions Trump’s “assault on democracy” at every opportunity, and even recently resorted to Apollo Creed-style imagery, campaigning at Valley Forge flanked by a dozen American flags and red, white, and blue lights. (Red-and-white striped trunks can’t be far off.) The DNC’s daily “talkers” memos for months have asked blue-party pols and friendly reporters to stress “the existential threat to freedom and democracy that Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans represent,” while pointing to stories like Vanity Fair’s, “There Is No ‘Both Sides’ to Donald Trump’s Threat to Democracy,” in its CONTENT TO AMPLIFY section.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-electoral-fix-already

So to "protect democracy" the Communists will destroy democracy.
 

YWPMI

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I would rather protect our REPUBLIC that this country was FOUNDED ON! Demoncrats have destroyed what we had.

I still trust YHWH rather than man.
 

p_rehbein

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I wouldn't believe it if MSN changed their minds and said that Trump should be prez.... They lie about everything else, why not this? It is my confirmed (by me) opinion that MSN, CBS, NBC AND all those other alphabetical IDiots are NOT to be trusted in anything they say... not even the weather! but that's just me.
They have not been trustworthy since Walter Cronkite died IMO. Years ago, before this partisan split of our Nation occurred, the National News Organizations had some truth in their broadcasts, but that time has long past. We have the left and the right, and, when it serves their purpose, they both skew the truth in their broadcasts. Just how it is I suppose. Take whatever they say with a grain of salt IMO.

As for the weather, I watch Fox Weather, Weather Nation, and Acuweather. THEN, I go outside and see what is really going on..... :) The Weather Channel is pure leftist politics, and they do not bother to hide their leftist agenda.

anyhoo.........
 

ZNP

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They have not been trustworthy since Walter Cronkite died IMO. Years ago, before this partisan split of our Nation occurred, the National News Organizations had some truth in their broadcasts, but that time has long past. We have the left and the right, and, when it serves their purpose, they both skew the truth in their broadcasts. Just how it is I suppose. Take whatever they say with a grain of salt IMO.

As for the weather, I watch Fox Weather, Weather Nation, and Acuweather. THEN, I go outside and see what is really going on..... :) The Weather Channel is pure leftist politics, and they do not bother to hide their leftist agenda.

anyhoo.........
I think you give Walter Cronkite too much credit.