Has this prophecy been fulfilled

At this point I Refuse to answer 😊

…. at the first advent.

Lol. Yes. I thought it went without saying, but remembering how this conversation has gone, you are right to mention it!

The purpose of this thread is to discuss, all tho I have posted it, it is by no means my responsibility,

Neither do i own this thread.

Neither is it a survey or a test you must pass

Having said this @Moses_Young and @selahsays you are both people I consider people i can talk to 😀

So now why do I choose to have a view about the spiritual seed.

It's simple

If a child or any person is born of a physical seed of satan there is no way that person could ever be saved.

. obviously it did not happen yet

oh so nobody has been saved then if that's the case

I agree with your conclusion, but I consider scripture to be more authoritative than my own opinion. Remember also Genesis 6. If angels and women can produce offspring, I don't consider it much different to consider the devil producing offspring.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

I dont view gen 6 as producing of spring from angels that's just it.

The above all argument says whoever believes in God shall be saved.

A physical seed of satan can never be saved

Devils can't be saved. Jesus is our kinsman redeemer - fully man who died for men. Neither a demon nor an angel is a man, and any such offspring with man would not be fully man - it would (in my opinion) be beast, if not abomination.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

correct devils can't be saved 😊

But people possessed by them can be.

But if a person is born of a physical devils seed could they be saved ?.

You could believe they could I guess.

But then you could also believe the sons of God can be people to in gen 6, and not angels.

I prefere to believe satan can't create anything other than a lying Miracle

A creature that is part man and part fallen angel cannot be saved. That is where the demons came from, in my opinion. The spirits of part-man, part-angel nephilim destroyed in the flood.

The "sons of God" refers to angels. The intention (in my opinion) was to create a race of part-man, part-angel beings who could not be saved.

the nephilim could have been just people to, they where said to be 9 feet tall. Angels are spiritual.

There's a special medical term given to it to where people just keep on growing.

I know the story of angels eating food at Sodom to.

But it's just not possible they could digest the food.

Nope I don't believe all scriptures are literal I see a lot as symbolic

Spiritual and physical are closer than you think. Nonetheless, the spiritual beings can take physical form.

The situation in the bible wasn't a birth defect or mutation. It was caused by the "sons of God". Which everywhere else (plural), are considered angels - or in the New Testament, Christians, as when born again, we are born of God.

The bible doesn't state they couldn't digest.

This is possibly the root cause of why we disagree on so much. God does use symbolism in the bible. But usually, the symbolism is created by reference to something physical.

im sure the sons of God is referenced as being people somewhere, but I can't remember.

But ok let's go with the narrative of a lot of people, when they say angels took up wife's for themself's.

Was it spiritual lust gained through possession of a person.

Or should we just assume they had physical sex with a physical body of there own.

And when they take up human form is that in spirit or flesh

I don't think we can know more than the bible says. But in my view, if fallen angels were taking wives (surely a kind of coerced rape, to my thinking), the angels would have had to do it in physical, human-appearing form at some point.

I can't remember where the scripture is, but it says the angels where created. Or it says the angels where created, meaning all angels, which means they don't recreate.

The scripture for today is who ever calls on the lord shall be saved.

So even if there is some validness to this Narrative of angels recreating, its not valid for today for humans.

sexual perversion is something the devil loves to dishonor the marriage with, my father would talk about that subject sometimes, he worked in church for years.

One thing the devil looks to do is break up a marriage, or tempt a person into adultery.

I know because I know the devil has tried to split up my marriage.

Yeah the devils angels are everywhere perverting people that I do know buddy.

I wouldn't be surprised if most gay people are possessed, seriously

I don't think this logically follows. Man is created, and he reproduces according to his kind. Sure, Jesus tells us angels in heaven don't marry - but this isn't to talk about fallen angels, as talked about in Genesis 6.

This passage is talking about men. Angels, demons etc. can't obtain forgiveness through Jesus' death, as Jesus didn't die for them.

So back to the topic at hand - the arguments thus far can't rule out the possibility of a physical offspring of Satan being talked about.

I found it for you
Nehemiah 9:6
He made all the heavenly host meaning they don't re create

6 You alone are the LORD. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You give life to everything, and the multitudes of heaven worship you.

I have more study with the direction i choose to go with, this as you see here, it says God created all the hosts, not that they recreated

Then we see Jesus is called an angel of the lord but he is the only distinct angel of all the heavenly hosts and the only God of creation

In revaluation he is God, creation to man. From God to man, ie the word became flesh. The spirit became man.

. ok let me explain this, if you knew the hour or day your master was to return, you may then wait only for that day, and only set your house in order on that day.

forgetting all the other days, you see Jesus says no one knows the hour or the day, which more than likely means I could come in one minute, so get your house in order now, and keep it that way because I could delay my return for 24 hours. Even a year.

but the fact your believing he could return tomorrow is something that may cause you to be saved. He could return for you tomorrow to save you.

of course I'm not saying your not saved, just speaking hypothetically

if your sat there thinking it won't be untill 2030 you may not want to be saved until then

but why would you want to think it's next year, surly if your saved he'd returned.

thinking Jesus won't come back untill next year, is a distant memory, thinking he won't come back until 2030 is even more distant.

This feeling isn't right for saved people, my feeling is saved people say Jesus is here now, you feel it you know it,

you're more likely to say Jesus could bring final Judgement tomorrow.

Or we could get zapped any minute lol.

Now the bible does not say no one will know the hour or the day, it says no one knows the hours or the day.

So if no one knows, how will everyone know at the same time the hour or the day has come,

We all live in different time zones around the world.

You could be sleeping I could be driving

Would it be good to rapture me whilst a car is moving forward.

What about the train drivers and the planes in the air.

What about the billions of cars driving,

All theese things lol

Why would everyone get raptured at the same time.