Fails on basic morality

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If you stopped being a donkey for a little while and tried actually reading the Bible, you might see that the ordinances you decry are part of the Sinai covenant. Christians aren't under that covenant.

As for the ordinances being given by God, consider that they are restrictive; a Hebrew owner of slaves is not permitted to treat them in any way he chooses, but only within the limits of the Law.

Christians do not endorse slavery at all, let alone the mistreatment of slaves.
Now read how foreigner's should be treated. Christians believe in the creator God of the OT.
 

Dino246

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Now read how foreigner's should be treated. Christians believe in the creator God of the OT.
It's "foreigners". If you're going to be a successful troll, you need to learn how to pluralize correctly. If you can't handle basic English grammar, why would I think you have the mental capacity to discuss the Bible?
 
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It's "foreigners". If you're going to be a successful troll, you need to learn how to pluralize correctly. If you can't handle basic English grammar, why would I think you have the mental capacity to discuss the Bible?
You don't have the capacity to see slavery.
 

rrcn

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You don't have the capacity to see slavery.
[Jhn 8:31-36 KJV] 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Those who are not Christians are truly slaves of sin. It is my opinion that if you wish to discuss other types of slavery you are in the wrong place. If you are here to find Jesus so he can free you from sin then please leave a prayer request. This is the place for that.
 

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You just admitted you're creator endorses slavery "It tells the Hebrews of that time who they can enslave"
Yes in that time.. Not in times after those times.. Again i am part of the New covenant through the LORD Jesus not the Old covenant via Moses.. Again whats the point of your posts?
 
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Yes in that time.. Not in times after those times.. Again i am part of the New covenant through the LORD Jesus not the Old covenant via Moses.. Again whats the point of your posts?
So you are admitting you're creator endorses owning another person as property. This is the creator you believe in.
 
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[Jhn 8:31-36 KJV] 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Those who are not Christians are truly slaves of sin. It is my opinion that if you wish to discuss other types of slavery you are in the wrong place. If you are here to find Jesus so he can free you from sin then please leave a prayer request. This is the place for that.
You are in the wrong place as nothing you have posted is actually about this thread.
 

Dino246

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So you are admitting you're creator endorses owning another person as property. This is the creator you believe in.
It's "your" here. Learn the language! No point in us debating with an poorly-achieving elementary student.
 

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So you are admitting you're creator endorses owning another person as property. This is the creator you believe in.
But to those who do not believe,
“The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
and,
“A stone that causes people to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall.”
 

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So you are admitting you're creator endorses owning another person as property. This is the creator you believe in.
You're refusing to read my posts.. This is the second time you have put words into my mouth.. Words that i have never said.. Is it a problem that originates from some problem you have in reading English? Are you proficient enough in reading and comprehension to take part in a discussion on theological topics? Or are you the type who manufactures straw men so that you can burn them?
 

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You're refusing to read my posts.. This is the second time you have put words into my mouth.. Words that i have never said.. Is it a problem that originates from some problem you have in reading English? Are you proficient enough in reading and comprehension to take part in a discussion on theological topics? Or are you the type who manufactures straw men so that you can burn them?
Don't waste your energy. He's a troll that gets banned and re-registers again with the same trolling technique.
 
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You're refusing to read my posts.. This is the second time you have put words into my mouth.. Words that i have never said.. Is it a problem that originates from some problem you have in reading English? Are you proficient enough in reading and comprehension to take part in a discussion on theological topics? Or are you the type who manufactures straw men so that you can burn them?
You didn't say the creator you believe in never endorsed slavery. You admitted he did. So you do believe in a creator who endorsed slavery.
 

Dino246

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I do. You believe in the creator of the OT. The same creator who said you can beat the slave you bought as own them as property.
And? You don't grammar too good. What's your excuse?
 

MsMediator

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So you are admitting you're creator endorses owning another person as property. This is the creator you believe in.
Simple answer is yes, under some instances, during OT times. The slavery we know of today however such as stealing and selling people, human trafficking, etc. was in fact outlawed in the Bible ("anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession." - Exodus 21:16). Basically you cannot enslave a kidnapped person or their descendants, and basically all slaves are kidnapped at some point ( including the slaves from Africa during the slave trade days).
 

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Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
That’s basically what the Bible states. We may assume we are in complete control of our lives, but many of us are a slave to our passions, a list of rules, or a higher power.

We all must submit to someone’s authority, whether willingly or unwillingly. Is that not the definition of a slave?
 

rrcn

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You are in the wrong place as nothing you have posted is actually about this thread.
What is your purpose here? It doesn’t seem to be constructive nor very well thought out.
 
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