Gazans innocent of attacks in Israel?

The idea of Gazans being innocent victims of the cruel IDF is false. Yes, some are. But Gazans built the Hamas terror tunnels, fully knowing what they are for. Gazas children have been taught by the UNWRA, funded by you, the taxpayer, to hate Jews. Some as young as 9 have been given weapons training. The most tragic aspect of this is that it is common knowledge in Israel.

https://www2.cbn.com/news/israel/un...culum-they-dont-hate-jews-they-want-kill-jews

And on the other side we have.....

1) A video posted by conservative Israeli media personality Yinon Magal on X, formerly Twitter, shows dozens of soldiers dancing in a circle, apparently in Gaza, and singing a song that includes the words, “Gaza we have come to conquer. … We know our slogan – there are no people who are uninvolved.”

I guess this allows them to kill babies in incubators.

2) JERUSALEM — Israeli soldiers rummaging through private homes in Gaza. Forces destroying plastic figurines in a toy store, or trying to burn food and water supplies in the back of an abandoned truck. Troops with their arms slung around each other, chanting racist slogans as they dance in a circle.


3) In another photo, a soldier poses next to words spray-painted in red on a pink building that read, “instead of erasing graffiti, let’s erase Gaza.”
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-12-13/israel-soldiers-videos-12344632.html


4) Defense Minister Gallant’s comment on 9 October captures Israeli policy: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly."[7] Israel has been forced to allow minimal supplies into Gaza, but the amounts are so small that a senior UN official reports that “half of Gaza’s population is starving.” He goes on to report that, “Nine out of 10 families in some areas are spending ‘a full day and night without any food at all’.”[8]
Substack: John Mearsheimer


5) ....while most of the focus is now on Gaza, it is important not to lose sight of what is simultaneously going on in the West Bank. Israeli settlers, working closely with the IDF, continue to kill innocent Palestinians and steal their land. In an excellent article in the New York Review of Books describing these horrors, David Shulman relates a conversation he had with a settler, which clearly reflects the moral dimension of Israeli behavior toward the Palestinians. “What we are doing to these people is actually inhuman,” the settler freely admits, “But if you think about it clearly, it all follows inevitably from the fact that God promised this land to the Jews, and only to them.”[27]

So you support genocide based a faulty understanding of bible prophecy. Sad.


Jesus stated clearly..... THIS generation...

He's the equivalent of a holocaust denier. All we can do is show him the proof and evidence, but we can't make him look at it and believe it.

And on the other side we have.....

1) A video posted by conservative Israeli media personality Yinon Magal on X, formerly Twitter, shows dozens of soldiers dancing in a circle, apparently in Gaza, and singing a song that includes the words, “Gaza we have come to conquer. … We know our slogan – there are no people who are uninvolved.”

I guess this allows them to kill babies in incubators.

2) JERUSALEM — Israeli soldiers rummaging through private homes in Gaza. Forces destroying plastic figurines in a toy store, or trying to burn food and water supplies in the back of an abandoned truck. Troops with their arms slung around each other, chanting racist slogans as they dance in a circle.


3) In another photo, a soldier poses next to words spray-painted in red on a pink building that read, “instead of erasing graffiti, let’s erase Gaza.”
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-12-13/israel-soldiers-videos-12344632.html


4) Defense Minister Gallant’s comment on 9 October captures Israeli policy: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly."[7] Israel has been forced to allow minimal supplies into Gaza, but the amounts are so small that a senior UN official reports that “half of Gaza’s population is starving.” He goes on to report that, “Nine out of 10 families in some areas are spending ‘a full day and night without any food at all’.”[8]
Substack: John Mearsheimer


5) ....while most of the focus is now on Gaza, it is important not to lose sight of what is simultaneously going on in the West Bank. Israeli settlers, working closely with the IDF, continue to kill innocent Palestinians and steal their land. In an excellent article in the New York Review of Books describing these horrors, David Shulman relates a conversation he had with a settler, which clearly reflects the moral dimension of Israeli behavior toward the Palestinians. “What we are doing to these people is actually inhuman,” the settler freely admits, “But if you think about it clearly, it all follows inevitably from the fact that God promised this land to the Jews, and only to them.”[27]

So you support genocide based a faulty understanding of bible prophecy. Sad.


Jesus stated clearly..... THIS generation...

If we read the OT it is sometimes hard to read that God told the Israelites to kill all of the pagan nations, including woman and children.

God is not giving these instructions today.

And on the other side we have.....

1) A video posted by conservative Israeli media personality Yinon Magal on X, formerly Twitter, shows dozens of soldiers dancing in a circle, apparently in Gaza, and singing a song that includes the words, “Gaza we have come to conquer. … We know our slogan – there are no people who are uninvolved.”

I guess this allows them to kill babies in incubators.

2) JERUSALEM — Israeli soldiers rummaging through private homes in Gaza. Forces destroying plastic figurines in a toy store, or trying to burn food and water supplies in the back of an abandoned truck. Troops with their arms slung around each other, chanting racist slogans as they dance in a circle.


3) In another photo, a soldier poses next to words spray-painted in red on a pink building that read, “instead of erasing graffiti, let’s erase Gaza.”
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2023-12-13/israel-soldiers-videos-12344632.html


4) Defense Minister Gallant’s comment on 9 October captures Israeli policy: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly."[7] Israel has been forced to allow minimal supplies into Gaza, but the amounts are so small that a senior UN official reports that “half of Gaza’s population is starving.” He goes on to report that, “Nine out of 10 families in some areas are spending ‘a full day and night without any food at all’.”[8]
Substack: John Mearsheimer


5) ....while most of the focus is now on Gaza, it is important not to lose sight of what is simultaneously going on in the West Bank. Israeli settlers, working closely with the IDF, continue to kill innocent Palestinians and steal their land. In an excellent article in the New York Review of Books describing these horrors, David Shulman relates a conversation he had with a settler, which clearly reflects the moral dimension of Israeli behavior toward the Palestinians. “What we are doing to these people is actually inhuman,” the settler freely admits, “But if you think about it clearly, it all follows inevitably from the fact that God promised this land to the Jews, and only to them.”[27]

So you support genocide based a faulty understanding of bible prophecy. Sad.


Jesus stated clearly..... THIS generation...

Correct! For us as follower of Christ.
But Israel today is not following Christ.
They fight for to survive inmidst Nations which want eliminate them.

I say again, Hamas and those behind are responsible for what we see today.

But finaly it will end in that what God said about Israel. All Nations will turn and march against Israel. And then a part of Israel will turn to Christ. And the King of Kings will come to defend His nation and will sieges over the Nations.

Dont know when. But it will come in this way.

The reality is that "Palestinians" (there is no such thing) have refused every offer of a separate state. They accept only a one state solution, one that extinguishes Israel as a nation. Palestinians are reaping what they've sown.

I've said this many times and I have yet to get a sensible response. What would YOU do to resolve this problem?

They are fighting to keep what they took away from the inhabitants of the land. Start with the right beginning to understand this conflict

Then you should go back in the history. Whom belongs this land? Or do you ignore what God promised?

And, this is no excuse for the 7th of october. This was no war act. This was a brutal crime!

Would you discuss with God, because he gave the land who belongs the cannanites, philistians and all the other Volks to Israel?

Maybe you should go back and read about when HE dealt with the inhabitants of the land in 70 AD via the Romans.

God fulfilled is land promises and all promises via Christ Jesus, see Joshua 21:43

You have been taught dispensationalism, I encourage you to objectively dig deeper, this is not the end of the age.

Thats your view. I doubt that human imagine are the measure.

The solution is negotiations with binding agreements with the entire middle east with serious ramifications for breaking the agreement.

I can tell you one thing the USA cannot negotiate peace as they have a vested interest and are not impartial.

All this hatred created by years of violence can only be resolved by an impartial third party with a large peace keeping force on the ground.

But Christians/Zionists want all this to usher in the millennium so they will probably stand in the way of peace, so we are looking at the entire displacement/eradication of an indigenous population and possible wider war.

Negotiate peace? The Norwegians came up with a workable plan. The PLA rejected it. The PLA has rejected every attempt to come to a peaceful solution. There is always some excuse, but the reality is that Palestinians have never accepted Israel's right to exist and never will.

This is the fundamental issue, which all Western politicians ignore. However, if Iran was totally shut down by Israel, the terrorists at least would be shut down. And if Joe Biden were arrested and locked up tomorrow for treason, then Iran would lose its most important ally. As you say the PLA has rejected every proposal for peace. And ordinary Palestinians are pawns in this game, but at the same time they too hate Israel and the Jews.

You live in Disney world. The only agreement that the Arabs will accept is one that eliminates Israel. How can you be so naive? Most of the countries you depend on do not recognise the state of Israel.

"Serious ramifications". Such as? The Arabs have already rejected the idea of being peacekeepers. Non Muslims will be about as welcome as bacon on the Gazan hamburger. UN peacekeepers in Lebanon have been as effective as a wet lettuce. They do nothing while being funded by taxpayers.

You have it totally back to front. It is the Arabs that stand in the way of peace, as they have since 1948. Your fatuous remark about Christians not wanting peace is absurd. Christians are working in Gaza to provide relief. At least one hospital is funded and run by the Baptist church. Muslims live at peace in Israel. Do you know how many Jews live in Arab nations? None. They've been driven out of homes they've lived in for centuries. Islam the religion of peace? Sure, there is peace in a cemetery. And that's where the Arabs would have all Jews, if they could.

Negotiate peace? The Norwegians came up with a workable plan. The PLA rejected it. The PLA has rejected every attempt to come to a peaceful solution. There is always some excuse, but the reality is that Palestinians have never accepted Israel's right to exist and never will.