Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

You were busted and you know it. What was this about again?

You are absolutely right. I was nit picken.

You were busted and you know it. What was this about again?

And honestly, I have looked into the 'numbers' in a few places. Some are very interesting. But I wouldn't build doctrines or call them truths until I meet Him face to face.

I thought about 3, but if the number for man is 6 and you are only missing 1/2, you still have 5 and a 1/2.
And for the record, my oldest is a pharmacist and 2nd is in management. Somebody taught them something. And @Magenta is in charge of math around here.

The Symbiotic Relationship Between
The Living Word, & the Communicated Word:

This is what you don’t understand. There are no new doctrines formed by the numbers. The meaning is already there in Scripture and the numbers are simply attached to the repeat pattern of meaning that already exists. We are just pointing out the patterns in God’s Word. To see that a number is associated with a particular meaning is merely pointing out truth that is already there. So if I see the number 7 repeatedly tied to God and His perfection and rest, that means the number is not some mindless fact. All Scripture is profitable (2 Timothy 3:16). Man shall live by every word of God (Luke 4:4) (KJV). There is no voice that is without significance (1 Corinthians 14:10). Scripture is God’s voice to us today.

Stop and think. When God told the Israelites to march around Jericho seven times, it was not some random number that God chose. God does not make us do things without a purpose. Seven is related to God. So it was God who took down the walls of Jericho. Without even knowing the number, you can conclude this fact, as well. But the point is that the number simply confirms this truth even more. The numbers are also there to confirm that His Word is indeed divine in origin and it is perfect and entirely trustworthy. Most people do not believe there is a perfect Word of God. That is why most are resistant to biblical numerics.

The idea of numbers is attactched to numerology well known for it's cultic beliefs and so many call it just that forgetting thatthe devil copies and corrupts everything God does so by simple logic if there is a culitc version should there not a true version?

As well ass what we call the word of God the literally spoken word of himself not ink on papaer if we revere it as much as we say we do than is not everything in there as much as his voice itself?

That includes numbers and God is well known for hiding the truth hidden in deeper layers so every number in there is just as much his 2word spoken for a specific reason

he has never been one to outright give the answer that is why we strudy if numbers in scripture are like a hidden language then it would make sense that one must seek the truth in it it requires one who understands that his language is seen in everything in nature in the laughter of a small child that sense of warmth you feel remebering your childhood.

Numbers are only one of the many languages he speaks his words are in the rising sunrise the fireflies that dance at night the still cool feeling of the wind on your skin.

In the Bible: Casting lots can be considered pagan or wrong in some instances. Yet, at other times, it was acceptable to God in the right context. Obviously, I am against occult numerology which is leading your life by numbers (like using numbers to get a better job, to improve your relationships, etc.). There was a time when God told the Israelites to number the tribes. Obviously, this involves counting or numbering. We must understand that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine and instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16). This would include the numbers mentioned in the Bible.

Also, Revelation 13:18 says,


In Revelation 13:18 the word “him” implies us believers or the Christian reader who hath understanding. What is this “understanding” that we believers are to have? I believe this “understanding” is about the knowledge of biblical numerics. You (who hath understanding) are told to count a particular number whereby it gives you an ascribed meaning for that number. The number is 666 which is the number associated with the Beast. The verse presupposes that “him” (you or the believer) is already aware of biblical numerics because Revelation 13:18 also says that his number is the number of a man. If you have the understanding to count, you would already know Man’s number according to the Bible is 6. Yet, the Beast’s number is 666. Meaning, the beast’s number is taking man’s number (Which is 6) and it is tripling it (666). This is why the “him” (you or the believer) who has understanding is told to count man’s number (representing the number 6) three times to get the number of the beast (666).

Primarily, the Bible numbers make me to be in awe of His Word in that it is divine in origin. I am not looking to lead my life by the numbers within the Bible. That would be silly. Most Textual Critics will not give this study the time of day because it would undermine their careers and or they have convinced themselves it is something that it is not to protect their current belief system of Textual Criticism.