Where does the justification for The New Testament doers of the law in Romans 2:13 originate from?

Irrelevant. They don't exist. We couldn't follow the Law even if we were under it... which we are not.

If the Holy Spirit shows you how then you could.

If you follow the law on your own no matter how much you feel you are following the law then you are not following the law. We need the Holy Spirit to show us the correct way to follow the law. The Pharisees thought they were following the law and Christ showed them that they were not.

If the Holy Spirit shows you how then you could.

What parts are we not under? Do we get to pick and choose?

The law is not made void by faith. The law still exists but the Holy Spirit guides us on how to follow the law.

Most of the scripture below is similar to the laws and statues God said to Israel and to Moses. If we are breaking the laws below then we are not listening to the Holy Spirit. The Isaiah quotes are for future events that have not been fulfilled. God still wants us to follow his Sabbath and not eat swine.

Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matt 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Acts 15;20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Romans 1:26-32 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Galatians 5:19-21 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Col 3:5-6 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

Rev 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

Isaiah 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;

Isaiah 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Oh no! (insert meme)

I don't want to be misconstrued here. Under the old covenant, the law could be kept through personal endeavor.
I don't believe anyone ever did besides Jesus. In this sense, commandments could be kept, but all eventually sinned.

The 613 cannot be followed.

Obviously we cannot follow anything involving the temple since it has been knocked down. Also I am
not a woman or a priest but why can we not follow any of the the other laws if the Holy Spirit guides us?

It's not about the Holy Spirit showing us. It's about Him performing the law through us. Him just showing us still has us trying to keep the law. While this was possible under the old covenant, the new covenant comes with a new standard we cannot keep as a result of our own effort. It requires Christ living in us.

I don't want to be misconstrued here. Under the old covenant, the law could be kept through personal endeavor. I don't believe anyone ever did besides Jesus. In this sense, commandments could be kept, but all eventually sinned.

You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession,
to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

The 613 were not given to us or for us.

Who are you if you are considered a fellow citizen of Israel?

2 Corinthians 3:13-15~ We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away. But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Obviously we cannot follow anything involving the temple since it has been knocked down. Also I am not a woman or a priest but why can we not follow any of the the other laws if the Holy Spirit guides us?

@achduke7 As I understand it, all the elect (or saints/believers) are referred to as “true Israel“.

How does he perform the law through us? Christ said He would guide us and Paul said He is in us if we believe. By Guide or showing us I think He is inside us and speaks to us in different forms.

That's not quite right. Paul said...I live, yet not I; Christ lives in me.
This is much different than merely being guided. This is the Holy Spirit moving us as we walk in Him. What is happening is not the same as us in our own strength trying to keep the commandments; rather, the Spirit Himself is empowering our actions. Since He cannot sin, He cannot empower us to do so.
It is this power that so many Christians have yet to come to know. It is largely why the church remains so impotent in our time.

I agree. That would also would mean one law applies to all. May God grant us his Holy Spirit to guide us.

That's not quite right. Paul said...I live, yet not I; Christ lives in me.
This is much different than merely being guided. This is the Holy Spirit moving us as we walk in Him. What is happening is not the same as us in our own strength trying to keep the commandments; rather, the Spirit Himself is empowering our actions. Since He cannot sin, He cannot empower us to do so.
It is this power that so many Christians have yet to come to know. It is largely why the church remains so impotent in our time.

Christ said He would Guide us, at least that is what the translation says.

John 16:13 However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come.


Perhaps many that think they have the Holy Spirit yet freely sin do not actually have the Holy Spirit at this time.