Ball Earth conundrums

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Moses_Young

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why would the sun effect the spin of a pendulum and of clouds, which are water, but not water, which is water?
Is this is what you are claiming? I'm simply claiming the sun affects the direction of cyclones and hurricanes.
 

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I'll have a look at the video when I get some time. With regards to the hurricanes and cyclones, the difference in direction is due to the sun. Both cyclones and hurricanes spin in a direction synchronised with the the movement of the sun (i.e. in the opposing direction), which makes sense with the theory about how they are formed.
Good grief man look up the Coriolis effect.

As to how they are formed......it is ultimately due to the infinite dielectric domain manifesting itself in THIS universe as electromagnetic phenomenon. Of which the Sun and solar system are but a miniscule circuit.

Look up Birkeland currents genius.
 

Dino246

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I'll have a look at the video when I get some time. With regards to the hurricanes and cyclones, the difference in direction is due to the sun. Both cyclones and hurricanes spin in a direction synchronised with the the movement of the sun (i.e. in the opposing direction), which makes sense with the theory about how they are formed. In the Northern Hemisphere, this direction is anticlockwise. In the Southern Hemisphere, the direction is clockwise.
Let's imagine this on the imaginary flat-Earth model. The image shows the plane of the 'flat Earth' in pale blue, the equator as a dashed line, the path of the sun as two thin arrows, and two storm systems as broad arrows.

You're saying that major storms spin in the direction opposite to the sun's movement, but the sun, relative to the Earth, moves the same way both North and South of the equator. Since the (relative) movement of the sun by itself would actually cause both storms to spin in the same direction, can you please explain the force that causes the pattern found in nature?

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Moses_Young

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Let's imagine this on the imaginary flat-Earth model. The image shows the plane of the 'flat Earth' in pale blue, the equator as a dashed line, the path of the sun as two thin arrows, and two storm systems as broad arrows.

You're saying that major storms spin in the direction opposite to the sun's movement, but the sun, relative to the Earth, moves the same way both North and South of the equator. Since the (relative) movement of the sun by itself would actually cause both storms to spin in the same direction, can you please explain the force that causes the pattern found in nature?

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Thanks for the diagram. Very helpful. I'm not sure I follow you, though. The diagram shows the blue arrows in opposite directions, no? Counter-clockwise and clockwise, dependent on hemisphere. But both are aligned with (i.e. opposite) the path of the sun.
 

Moses_Young

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Let's imagine this on the imaginary flat-Earth model. The image shows the plane of the 'flat Earth' in pale blue, the equator as a dashed line, the path of the sun as two thin arrows, and two storm systems as broad arrows.

You're saying that major storms spin in the direction opposite to the sun's movement, but the sun, relative to the Earth, moves the same way both North and South of the equator. Since the (relative) movement of the sun by itself would actually cause both storms to spin in the same direction, can you please explain the force that causes the pattern found in nature?

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If the storms are represented by the blue arrows, it is showing opposite rotational directions - counterclockwise and clockwise (as observed). It is also showing that with respect to the sun's path, the storm linear directions are the same.
 

Dino246

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Thanks for the diagram. Very helpful. I'm not sure I follow you, though. The diagram shows the blue arrows in opposite directions, no? Counter-clockwise and clockwise, dependent on hemisphere. But both are aligned with (i.e. opposite) the path of the sun.
The diagram shows the real-world storms rotating in opposite directions depending on hemisphere, superimposed on the usual flat-Earth model. Since storms rotating in opposite directions is the observed reality, could you please explain how this happens when the sun is moving in the same relative direction?
 

Dino246

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If the storms are represented by the blue arrows, it is showing opposite rotational directions - counterclockwise and clockwise (as observed). It is also showing that with respect to the sun's path, the storm linear directions are the same.
No; the arrows representing the sun's path are both closer to the "equator" than the storms, but they could as easily have been closer to the "poles", meaning your conclusion is faulty.
 

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Thanks for the diagram. Very helpful. I'm not sure I follow you, though. The diagram shows the blue arrows in opposite directions, no? Counter-clockwise and clockwise, dependent on hemisphere. But both are aligned with (i.e. opposite) the path of the sun.
@Moses_Young -- Dino can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's trying to demonstrate that theoretically a sun ball rotating clockwise over the earth in FE model would cause the water/humidity/air closest to the sun to spin faster than the water/humidity/air that is a bit farther away... which would cause the water/humidity/air to spin clockwise in the in the northern and counter-clockwise southern hemisphere. But in real-life it's the opposite (counter-clockwise in northern hem, clockwise in southern hem.)

First note: I'm not saying that I know this is what would happen in real-life, it's just theoretical extrapolation based on known physics. I think a simpler illustration of this would be:

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Of course, this is all a waste of time because this thought of yours that we're indulging is in our heads and untestable. Ironically, the same physics work with the spherical earth because the atmosphere at the equator is moving faster causing the Coriolis Effect we see in real-life. The spherical earth is spinning the opposite direction that the False-earth Model sun is moving.

@Moses_Young, You said you'd checkout the video of the variables-controlled experiment of the spinning water Coriolis Effect when you had time (it's only 6 mins long) and give us your prayerful honest reasonable conclusion. Let's do this first, please, like you said you would. Here it is below:

 

Dino246

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@Moses_Young -- Dino can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's trying to demonstrate that theoretically a sun ball rotating clockwise over the earth in FE model would cause the water/humidity/air closest to the sun to spin faster than the water/humidity/air that is a bit farther away... which would cause the water/humidity/air to spin clockwise in the in the northern and counter-clockwise southern hemisphere. But in real-life it's the opposite (counter-clockwise in northern hem, clockwise in southern hem.)
With respect, that’s not what I’m saying.
 

Moses_Young

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@Moses_Young -- Dino can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's trying to demonstrate that theoretically a sun ball rotating clockwise over the earth in FE model would cause the water/humidity/air closest to the sun to spin faster than the water/humidity/air that is a bit farther away... which would cause the water/humidity/air to spin clockwise in the in the northern and counter-clockwise southern hemisphere. But in real-life it's the opposite (counter-clockwise in northern hem, clockwise in southern hem.)

First note: I'm not saying that I know this is what would happen in real-life, it's just theoretical extrapolation based on known physics. I think a simpler illustration of this would be:

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Of course, this is all a waste of time because this thought of yours that we're indulging is in our heads and untestable. Ironically, the same physics work with the spherical earth because the atmosphere at the equator is moving faster causing the Coriolis Effect we see in real-life. The spherical earth is spinning the opposite direction that the False-earth Model sun is moving.
I think you have the gist of what I was intending, although I understand the rotational directions shown in the above diagram are the reverse. The sun is presumably heating as it travels, so the effects of its heating would trail behind, and induce storms with rotational directions in opposition to itself. But in essence, the above (with correct rotational directions) explains why cyclones/hurricanes have reversed rotational directions in the Southern hemisphere as opposed to the Northern Hemisphere, on a Flat Earth.

@Moses_Young, You said you'd checkout the video of the variables-controlled experiment of the spinning water Coriolis Effect when you had time (it's only 6 mins long) and give us your prayerful honest reasonable conclusion. Let's do this first, please, like you said you would. Here it is below:

Yes, I did, and thanks for reposting. Hopefully I will get some time to review this week.
 

Dino246

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I think you have the gist of what I was intending, although I understand the rotational directions shown in the above diagram are the reverse. The sun is presumably heating as it travels, so the effects of its heating would trail behind, and induce storms with rotational directions in opposition to itself. But in essence, the above (with correct rotational directions) explains why cyclones/hurricanes have reversed rotational directions in the Southern hemisphere as opposed to the Northern Hemisphere, on a Flat Earth.

Yes, I did, and thanks for reposting. Hopefully I will get some time to review this week.
The problem with this theory is that the sun does not heat in a thin line, but broadly across all lands that are illuminated so the sun’s ’movement’ does not explain the rotational direction of storms.
 

Dino246

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To better illustrate my point, here's another attempt. On a flat, non-moving Earth, there is no difference in input forces to cause the storms to spin in opposite directions.

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Moses_Young

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The problem with this theory is that the sun does not heat in a thin line, but broadly across all lands that are illuminated so the sun’s ’movement’ does not explain the rotational direction of storms.
There are only two potential directions a rotational cyclone/hurricane can move. To me, it makes perfect sense that if the cyclone/hurricane is formed above the sun's path, the rotational direction is opposite that if it is formed below the sun's path, but that the direction of the cyclone/hurricane aligned with the sun's path remains the same whether above or below.
 

Dino246

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There are only two potential directions a rotational cyclone/hurricane can move. To me, it makes perfect sense that if the cyclone/hurricane is formed above the sun's path, the rotational direction is opposite that if it is formed below the sun's path, but that the direction of the cyclone/hurricane aligned with the sun's path remains the same whether above or below.
That might make sense to you, but not to me, because the sun’s path by itself is not a force. Please explain the force that would cause the storms to spin in opposite directions on a flat Earth.
 

Moses_Young

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That might make sense to you, but not to me, because the sun’s path by itself is not a force. Please explain the force that would cause the storms to spin in opposite directions on a flat Earth.
There is no force needed to cause storms to spin. Storms are not objects to be acted on by forces.
 

Dino246

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Not at all. Unless you believe it's magic gravity? Lol.
Foolish response.

What exactly do you think storms are, if not "objects to be acted on by forces"? What do you think causes storms to spin, gen that your "path of the sun" explanation fails miserably?
 

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And, my question is - when a storm crosses the equator, does its spin change direction...? :D
 

Dino246

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And, my question is - when a storm crosses the equator, does its spin change direction...? :D
You might want to do a little research on this. The answer might surprise you.