Life In Messiah's Kingdom

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Webers.Home

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Well; considering the amount of damage done to the world's cities during
the tribulation, there ought to be plenty of shovel-ready jobs available
afterwards for folks who don't mind getting their hands dirty.

Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale
that cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Just imagine the amount of rubble when all of Manhattan comes down;
along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City,
Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al.

Plus; forest lands and orchards will need replanting because Rev 8:7 predicts
the destruction of fully 1/3rd. That will require employing quite a few folks in
a sort of government sponsored Civilian Conservation Corps.

All in all, I think everybody will be kept pretty busy for a while just getting
the Earth back up to speed, so to speak-- especially morticians because
there will be dead everywhere at first.
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Well; considering the amount of damage done to the world's cities during
the tribulation, there ought to be plenty of shovel-ready jobs available
afterwards for folks who don't mind getting their hands dirty.


Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale
that cities all over the world will collapse at once.


Just imagine the amount of rubble when all of Manhattan comes down;
along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City,
Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al.


Plus; forest lands and orchards will need replanting because Rev 8:7 predicts
the destruction of fully 1/3rd. That will require employing quite a few folks in
a sort of government sponsored Civilian Conservation Corps.


All in all, I think everybody will be kept pretty busy for a while just getting
the Earth back up to speed, so to speak-- especially morticians because
there will be dead everywhere at first.
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The only religion that is described as being practiced in the Messianic Kingdom is the form of Judaism that believes in the Messiah, so that is what life will be like.
 

Blik

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The only religion that is described as being practiced in the Messianic Kingdom is the form of Judaism that believes in the Messiah, so that is what life will be like.
God blessed the Hebrew people because of the work God gave them to do in showing the nations what God is like. It is between the Jews and God, that their hearts have been hardened, and they do not accept Christ. It is not for us to judge. They will be saved.

Romans 11:25-26I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters,* so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say,"The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem,* and he will turn Israel* away from ungodliness.
 

Soyeong

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God blessed the Hebrew people because of the work God gave them to do in showing the nations what God is like. It is between the Jews and God, that their hearts have been hardened, and they do not accept Christ. It is not for us to judge. They will be saved.

Romans 11:25-26I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters,* so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say,"The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem,* and he will turn Israel* away from ungodliness.
I didn't say anything specifically about Jews, but about the religion that those who live during the Messianic Kingdom will be practicing. Many Jews did accept Christ, for example, in Acts 21:20, they were rejoicing that tens of thousands of Jews were coming to faith in Christ, which means that there was a period of time between the resurrection of Jesus and the inclusion of Gentiles in Acts 10 that is estimated to be around 7-15 years during which all Christians were Jews who practiced the form of Judaism that believes in the Messiah.
 

JaumeJ

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The only religion that is described as being practiced in the Messianic Kingdom is the form of Judaism that believes in the Messiah, so that is what life will be like.
Many do not translate all of the Word as it causing them to jump upon wording in posts. "form of Judaism: could easily be said as form of praising Yah. I am afraid many will think without translating completely that this is the negative form of judaizing, which, of course, it is not.
 

Webers.Home

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I would like some time off for vacations in Messiah's kingdom because there
are places on Earth I will never get around to visiting in this life before I'm
dead; and being afraid of heights, there are some places I wouldn't visit in
this life even if given the chance, e.g. Angel's Landing in Zion National Park.
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Webers.Home

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Jesus today has a so-called glorified body that his followers are on track to
be given in the future. (Phil 3:21)

Just about everybody knows that when Jesus' crucified dead body was
restored to life, it was capable of dining upon ordinary foods. (Luke 24:40-43)

But possibly not so well known is the fact that his glorified body will be
capable of dining upon ordinary foods and beverages in Messiah's kingdom.
(Matt 26:29, Luke 22:15-16, Luke 22:28-30)

That's really good news because my senses of smell and taste have been
gradually diminishing so that now approaching 80, I don't enjoy my favorite
foods nearly as much as I did before I got old.

Well; it's nice that a glorified body can eat and drink, but even better that it's
forever young.
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Webers.Home

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I grew up in San Diego County's outback and lived there forty-one years
before moving to Oregon.

Certain times of the year I had to watch every step and be extra careful
where I put my hands and/or sat down outdoors because of tarantulas,
rattlesnakes, scorpions, centipedes, and black widow spiders. I had four
hair-raising close calls with rattlers which to this day I can't figure out why
they didn't bite me when they had the chance.

Anyway, point being, Messiah's kingdom will be an era of peace between
man and beast so I'll be able to roam the outdoors with 100% carefree
abandon instead of devoting some of my attention to safety.

Isa 11:6-8 . .The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with
the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will
lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down
together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the
hole of the cobra, and the young child put his hand into the viper's nest.
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Webers.Home

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I was born the year the allies landed at Normandy.

Then came "the bomb" on Japan.

Next came Korea.

Then Vietnam.

Then Kuwait.

Then Iraq.

Then Afghanistan.

Then Ukraine.

All that plus civil wars in Cuba, South America, Africa, and parts of Europe.

Conflicts in just my lifetime alone have claimed untold millions of lives of all
ages, races, genders, and religions; and no doubt there are more millions to
be lost in wars yet to come because the world continues to be a political
powder keg; but thanks be to God not permanently.

Mic 4:3-4 . . He shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong
nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their
spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war any more. But they shall sit every man under his
vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid.

I've known people to spend quite a bit of money touring Israel but I highly
recommend delaying one's tour until Micah 4:3-4 comes to pass 'cause it
just isn't safe over there right now; and won't be safe till Christ's return.
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Webers.Home

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Messiah's administration will be unpleasant for criminals if perchance he
exercises justice in the manner prescribed by Moses' law wherein are no
penal systems and no plea bargaining. Punishment is typically swift and
right to it: no appeals, no pardons, and no reprieves.

A very serious defect in the justice system here in America is that Federal
judges are political appointees, even at the Supreme level, so that we have
very few objective judges-- if any. Many are biased and strongly influenced
by their party's social/political ideology.

I will be very curious to see how Messiah's administration exercises law
enforcement because a kingdom of scofflaws like we have here in the USA
will fail to keep the peace.

Isa 9:6-7 . . For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the
government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called the prince of
peace.

Isa 9:6-7 . . Of the increase of his peace there will be no end. He will reign
on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with
justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of The
Lord Almighty will accomplish this.
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Well; considering the amount of damage done to the world's cities during
the tribulation, there ought to be plenty of shovel-ready jobs available
afterwards for folks who don't mind getting their hands dirty.


Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale
that cities all over the world will collapse at once.


Just imagine the amount of rubble when all of Manhattan comes down;
along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City,
Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al.


Plus; forest lands and orchards will need replanting because Rev 8:7 predicts
the destruction of fully 1/3rd. That will require employing quite a few folks in
a sort of government sponsored Civilian Conservation Corps.


All in all, I think everybody will be kept pretty busy for a while just getting
the Earth back up to speed, so to speak-- especially morticians because
there will be dead everywhere at first.
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“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:

and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10-13‬ ‭


“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:

for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Heaven and earth shall pass away:

but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:31‬ ‭KJV‬‬


we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”

“And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus kingdom is the new creation ahead this world is doomed to destruction it’s what we’re being saved from Jesus kingdom is the heavenly Jerusalem not the one on earth
 

Webers.Home

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Christians will be immortal in Messiah's kingdom (1Cor 15:49-53) whereas
the Tribulation's survivors will enter the kingdom as ordinary people.

Christians won't have families (Luke 20:34-36) whereas the Tribulation's
survivors will live ordinary lives.

But although the survivors and their families won't be immortal, they will
enjoy exceptionally good health.

Isa 65:19-20 . . I will rejoice over Jerusalem and take delight in My people;
the sound of weeping and of crying will be heard in it no more. Never again
will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does
not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere
youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.
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In the beginning, some of the laws of God were timeless, viz: they weren't
attached to any one particular era in history, nor to any one particular
covenant, nor to any one particular people. And I strongly suspect that those
early laws will be enforced in Messiah's kingdom; for example:

Gen 3:16c . .Your desire shall be for your husband,

The Hebrew of that passage is apparently somewhat difficult as even the
great rabbis Rashi and Ramban were in disagreement how best to interpret
it.

Plus: the Hebrew word translated "desire" shows up so infrequently in the
Bible that it's difficult to get a good feel for it. In point of fact, other than
here in Genesis, the only other places it's used is Gen 4:7 and Song 7:10.

I'm thinking the Hebrew word implies allure. In other words; women are
allowed to be just as immodest, just as provocative, and just as indecent in
private with their husbands as they want; but not out in the world for the
eyes of other men.

Personally I do not approve of full-body burkas; but do consent that Islam
sort of has the right idea; albeit a bit too extreme and a bit too humiliating
because there are attractive clothing styles for women that do a much nicer
job of protecting their modesty than a gloomy shroud.

** No doubt the Bible's dress code is seen by some as an imposition on
women's rights; but I think we pretty much have to concur that God's rights
trump human rights; and so people would do well to comply with Messiah's laws
while dwelling in Messiah's kingdom. (cf. Psalm 2:1-12)
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Webers.Home

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In the beginning, God created two genders.

Gen 1:27 . . God created Man . . . male and female he created them.

The plural pronoun "them" doesn't apply to solo specimens, rather,
collectively, i.e. mankind in unison can be spoken of as them, but when
there is only one of each, then specific pronouns related to their gender are
appropriate, viz: he, she, him and her. I think we can safely assume that
arrangement will continue in Messiah's kingdom because Jesus said:

Mark 10:6 . . From the beginning of the creation God made them male and
female.

The pronoun "them" was never intended to identify individuals afflicted with
gender dysphoria and/or who think of themselves as non binary, i.e. neither
male nor female because that wasn't how God created mankind.

Jesus was enabled by God to cure a wide variety of mental and physical
abnormalities, so I think we may safely assume that in Messiah's kingdom,
folks with gender issues won't be stuck with those kinds of problems like
they are for now. Real effective healing will be available to them that won't
require hormone therapy, Josef Mengele surgery, puberty blockers, and/or
psychiatric counseling that helps maladjusted folks cope but that does
nothing to help them function as normal men and women.

NOTE: In George Orwell's novel "Nineteen Eighty-Four" people are coerced
into accepting 2+2=5, not because 2+2 really does equal 5 but because Big
Brother says it does. Well; here in my country we are being coerced into
using gender neutral pronouns, not because certain folks really are gender
neutral, but because our government says they are.

As a result; people in my country are being gradually conditioned to cope
with cognitive dissonance just as the folks in George Orwell's novel. But that
will not be so in Messiah's kingdom because his government will be
grounded in truth rather than stretches of the imagination.
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Longevity will be greatly increased in Messiah's kingdom; and the earthly
phase of his kingdom will last for 1,000 years, which means there will eventually
come a time when food production will be paramount on people's minds if
something isn't done to increase it.

Modern man has tried GMO, which has helped somewhat to increase
production but unfortunately at the expense of nutrition, and water and
soil pollution.

Well; get ready for some really significant modifications.

1) There will be no famines caused by inadequate water supplies.

Isa 35:6-7 . .Water will gush forth in the wilderness and streams in the
desert. The burning sand will become a pool, the thirsty ground bubbling
springs. In the haunts where jackals once lay, grass and reeds and papyrus
will grow.

2) The above speaks of a significant reduction of areas currently dominated
by desert conditions.

Isa 35:21-2 . .The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness
will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will
rejoice greatly and shout for joy. The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the
splendor of Carmel and Sharon; they will see the glory of The Lord, the
excellency of our God.

Lebanon's glory of old was timber; especially cedars (1Kng 4:33). Sharon
was known for its flowers (Song 2:1) and Carmel for its orchards (Isa 33:9).
In other words: agriculture will prosper in lands that for now are unable to
produce anything useful as nutrition by means of organic farming methods.
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At the close of the earthly phase of Messiah's kingdom, there will be a large
scale rebellion instigated and organized by the Devil. (Rev 20:1-3 & Rev
20:7-9)

The Devil's involvement in the rebellion strongly suggests that it wouldn't
be possible without his assistance. It also suggests that were the Devil not
at large in our world today; the insanity currently having sway in medicine,
economics, immigration, education, and politics would likely not make very
much progress as most folks can be tolerably reasonable when something
unseen isn't tampering with their gray matter and/or pushing their buttons.

2Tim 2:23-26 . . Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid
arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant
must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not
resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that
God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,
and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the
Devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
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