Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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Regardless of who is in power.....the gravy train partying is just about over.
Despite Janet Yellen's persistent denials and deflection.

And who exactly is going to be loaning us that money? Japan is bankrupt, China has stopped buying US bonds and when BRICS goes into effect will probably dump the bonds they have, Europe is fighting a war with Russia and will have to borrow money, not loan it. Saudi Arabia, the UAE and OPEC just pegged their currency in a deal with Russia to BRICS, so they don't need US bonds.
 

ZNP

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Why would anyone buy a bond that pays 4.27% when inflation is 8%?

There is no money left in Social Security to do that, and there is no money left in the banks to put into the bonds. All the stupid money is gone. Therefore you can realistically double the cost to service our debt and that means you can add another $trillion to the deficit each year.

The only possible way to get that money is to print it and that means runaway inflation.


By the way "White Lion" is the name of a slave ship, perhaps the first one to bring slaves to America indicating that the sins of the nation are coming back to haunt us.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Well the reason no one acknowledges your reasons is because they are mostly attacks on Joe Biden based on your nonsense conspiracy theories. You are incredibly sycophantic to Trump and demonstrate such with every post.

Actually there are facts in what he said.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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you maga cultists give Donald Trump..
This isn't true of everyone that supports Trump. Canada has a man similar to him rising in the polls there. At some point, if Trump is so horrible, you have to stop and ask yourself why so many people with so many varied backgrounds are willing to vote for him. Why he is so far ahead of everyone else.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I will stay home if Haley is the nominee. First time I wouldn’t have voted since 1988.

Vivek, DeSantis, or Trump. That’s it!
Not sure I like Viveks stand on Israel. DeSantis, don't know if he has what it takes to stand up against the left once they turn their full fire on him. Time will tell. So far Trump is still way out in front. We're in such a mess thanks to Biden I don't know if someone as young and untried as Vivek could handle it.
 

ZNP

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I will stay home if Haley is the nominee. First time I wouldn’t have voted since 1988.
Really? with all the great candidates we had in all those years? (it's a joke, don't blow a gasket)
 

ZNP

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Not sure I like Viveks stand on Israel. DeSantis, don't know if he has what it takes to stand up against the left once they turn their full fire on him. Time will tell. So far Trump is still way out in front. We're in such a mess thanks to Biden I don't know if someone as young and untried as Vivek could handle it.
I feel like Vivek is auditioning for a role in the Trump administration, but feel it is time for Desantis to end his campaign. He should be a team player, and he is a known quantity, the longer he campaigns the more he hurts his image, rather than help.
 

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We're in such a mess thanks to Biden I don't know if someone as young and untried as Vivek could handle it.
At least he is not afraid to speak out and expose all the hoaxes and all the deception from the Left. He has already exposed Nikki Haley as corrupt, and she has indeed received a donation from a Leftist donor who hates Trump. Nikki Haley and Chris Christie should simply drop out gracefully. In fact they should have stayed home from day one. But you are right. Trump is the only viable candidate and that is why the Left is doing its utmost to stop him. But it is God who eventually puts down and raises up those who are to be in office.
 

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I feel like Vivek is auditioning for a role in the Trump administration, but feel it is time for Desantis to end his campaign. He should be a team player, and he is a known quantity, the longer he campaigns the more he hurts his image, rather than help.
It just reminds me of Cruz and Trump honestly. They will go back and forth with Trump coming out on top, only for Trump to win and later on they will be bros again. The negative image Cruz had during the 2016 primary was short-lived, as I envision DeSantis' will be as well.

It's just a big game and show.
 

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This isn't true of everyone that supports Trump. Canada has a man similar to him rising in the polls there. At some point, if Trump is so horrible, you have to stop and ask yourself why so many people with so many varied backgrounds are willing to vote for him. Why he is so far ahead of everyone else.
You agreeing with someone doesn't make it fact.

Trump is ahead of other Republicans and he is deeply popular with the wider electorate, as is Biden.

Why people support him is beyond a simple forum post but in a nutshell is a combination of authoritarianism/fascism, culture war nonsense and rage.

People also supported Hitler, Pol Pot, Mussalini and so on. It doesn't mean they were good leaders, it just means many people were deceived or just as hateful.

Just reading this thread is constant attacks and demonization of "the left" and Democratic voters, along with every conspiracy theory under the sun. It's not hard to see why he is so popular with certain people. It'd just non-stop "the left the left the left" with every wild baseless acusation under the sun up to and including murder and pedophilia. It's ridiculous.
 

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"This is the BEGINNING OF THE END for Joe Biden"Tucker Carlson ROASTS BIDEN over FOX NEWS SCANDAL
 

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You agreeing with someone doesn't make it fact.

Trump is ahead of other Republicans and he is deeply popular with the wider electorate, as is Biden.

Why people support him is beyond a simple forum post but in a nutshell is a combination of authoritarianism/fascism, culture war nonsense and rage.

People also supported Hitler, Pol Pot, Mussalini and so on. It doesn't mean they were good leaders, it just means many people were deceived or just as hateful.

Just reading this thread is constant attacks and demonization of "the left" and Democratic voters, along with every conspiracy theory under the sun. It's not hard to see why he is so popular with certain people. It'd just non-stop "the left the left the left" with every wild baseless acusation under the sun up to and including murder and pedophilia. It's ridiculous.
You need Jesus.

Then you wouldn’t call decent people haters.

He is your Messiah. Accept Him please.
 

ZNP

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You need Jesus.

Then you wouldn’t call decent people haters.

He is your Messiah. Accept Him please.
I thought this was a really funny comedy routine.

Talking about baseless accusations? That is comedy gold. Of course it is ridiculous for someone who supports Biden and Hillary to make that claim against anyone who voted for Trump.

"Every conspiracy theory under the sun" -- brilliant double entendre about how we are dragging all these evil, satanic ones out into the light.

But the best is when we are accused of demonization of the left after being likened to supporters of Hitler, Pol Pot, and Mussalini (I think that is a guy who has a seafood restaurant in little Italy).

But I think she summed up why people support Trump beautifully.

1. Authoritarianism/fascism -- this is what we see from this wannabe dictator Biden. Of course we have risen up against it.

2. Culture war nonsense -- You bet, who wants to have parents labeled as "domestic terrorists" because they object to pornographic books being given to their elementary school kids, or have men in the girls locker room. It is nonsense. Transgender story hour -- nonsense.

3. Rage -- That is fair considering many had their homes taken away during the Mortgage meltdown from criminal bankers who violated their fiduciary responsibility and should have been prosecuted and instead were given a taxpayer bailout which they spent on bonuses. Others lost children in these endless wars due to lies about WMD's. I can accept that there is some rage out there.

But the funniest line is that Biden is deeply popular with the electorate as is Trump. I heard Biden trying to give a speech and being drowned out at his own event with "F.J.B." which Aviva will probably think means "Let's Go Brandon".

Finally I agree with this: "You agreeing with someone doesn't make it fact." Nothing she said was fact but it sure was funny.
 

Smoke

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Not sure I like Viveks stand on Israel. DeSantis, don't know if he has what it takes to stand up against the left once they turn their full fire on him. Time will tell. So far Trump is still way out in front. We're in such a mess thanks to Biden I don't know if someone as young and untried as Vivek could handle it.
What do you specifically object to about Vivek's stance on Israel?