Who am I?

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icequeen

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What determines our identity? Our core being?

If I ask my mother who I am and what my identity is, the answer might be creative and knowledgeable. My doctor would say hard working. My students would perhaps say, I hope they do, engaging and knowledgeable. I have even heard from a student that I was wise, but I doubt she knew the depth of that word. Friends might call me whimsical. People that don't want to relate to me as a person take the easy option and label me disabled.

Disability has never been my identity. And nothing hurts more than to be told "stick to your peers". Who are my peers? I'd rather hang out with my sisters in Christ or my co-workers than with my so-called peers in wheelchairs. I do have friends that do use a wheelchair, but they are not their chair nor their disability. They are solid people with humour, guts, insight and are highly educated.

Yearly we have a disability pride parade, and previously I have attended. But the experience put me off. Why should we celebrate anomalies? Why should I celebrate an identity based on my disability?

(And why should people celebrate their gender or sexual preferences in a parade? Isn't that to reduce themselves to mere lust? )

People are complex, and we should all be careful labelling individuals based on features that catches our attention. God has created us all in His image. Why some of us end up disabled, sick or tormented has been troubling mankind since Job. Job's friends were the most supportive when they didn't speak, but when they tried to label or find a reason for his troubles, they just added more to the burden. Perhaps the lesson learnt here is to listen before labelling someone not worthy of you attention. Because in Christ we are all sinners and peers. And it is in Christ we find our true identity.
 

notmyown

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it's so good to have you posting again :)
 

YWPMI

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Dearest Icequeen.... I hope you are well and happy in Christ!
I soooo agree with your statements! Who I identify as is totally obvious. I AM woman. I am female. I wear what I wear. I look like I look. I do what I do. NO one has the right to tell me who I am or what I am. I am what I am no matter what they think or say. Adonai created man and woman. period. there is NO in between or changeover. If we are disabled, THAT DOES NOT make us WHO we are. Thank you, Icequeen for standing up for your faith in Messiach.
 
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What determines our identity? Our core being?

If I ask my mother who I am and what my identity is, the answer might be creative and knowledgeable. My doctor would say hard working. My students would perhaps say, I hope they do, engaging and knowledgeable. I have even heard from a student that I was wise, but I doubt she knew the depth of that word. Friends might call me whimsical. People that don't want to relate to me as a person take the easy option and label me disabled.

Disability has never been my identity. And nothing hurts more than to be told "stick to your peers". Who are my peers? I'd rather hang out with my sisters in Christ or my co-workers than with my so-called peers in wheelchairs. I do have friends that do use a wheelchair, but they are not their chair nor their disability. They are solid people with humour, guts, insight and are highly educated.

Yearly we have a disability pride parade, and previously I have attended. But the experience put me off. Why should we celebrate anomalies? Why should I celebrate an identity based on my disability?

(And why should people celebrate their gender or sexual preferences in a parade? Isn't that to reduce themselves to mere lust? )

People are complex, and we should all be careful labelling individuals based on features that catches our attention. God has created us all in His image. Why some of us end up disabled, sick or tormented has been troubling mankind since Job. Job's friends were the most supportive when they didn't speak, but when they tried to label or find a reason for his troubles, they just added more to the burden. Perhaps the lesson learnt here is to listen before labelling someone not worthy of you attention. Because in Christ we are all sinners and peers. And it is in Christ we find our true identity.
I relate very well to your well-written post. I am completely deaf with no residual hearing BUT don't label myself as disabled. Other people may but my Mom always said, You're not handicapped unless you want to be." I rather find myself socializing with Christians, not deaf people or hearing people but Just Jeaus lovers. I might find myself celebrating a parade or marching with Jesus. Nothing else Jesus identifies me and nothing else.
 

tourist

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I relate very well to your well-written post. I am completely deaf with no residual hearing BUT don't label myself as disabled. Other people may but my Mom always said, You're not handicapped unless you want to be." I rather find myself socializing with Christians, not deaf people or hearing people but Just Jeaus lovers. I might find myself celebrating a parade or marching with Jesus. Nothing else Jesus identifies me and nothing else.
Well spoken and inspiring.
 

Ballaurena

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"And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ." Ephesians 4:11-12
Our core being is determined by God at our conception when He makes our soul. He then reveals it to us as we walk with Him. It is revealed by what comes out of us, just like you might recognize that an animal is a dog because it barks. For example, I discovered I was a teacher in part because even as a tween, I would find myself teaching my younger cousins Bible stories, and my friends math on my free time. There are clues even in little children but it often isn't revealed till well into adulthood and as a person seeks God for their identity. Some people also have the spiritual gift of identification but God frequently hides aspects of a person's identity even then.

Also, just like with dogs, having two specimens by the same designation ("dog," "teacher," "prophet," "mother" etc.) doesn't mean the two will be the same. For this reason, it can actually be better not to know a word for it sometimes, as that can cause us to get in our own way as we end up trying to be what we think we are supposed to be instead of letting it come out naturally. Instead just observe what traits come out. This is also helpful because again like dogs, we can be designer mixes.

Our core spiritual gifts are related to our identity, though other gifts can be added at times.
 

Mii

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Recently, I heard that labeling is "for your convenience" was my sum up. It's human nature to put things into understandable "boxes" in order to interact with the world.

That doesn't excuse "lazy labeling" though and although it requires sometimes a LOT of mental effort...I find it better to put people into an "I don't know but the creator does" category.

I do find that I label people but NOT with a simple "nametag". Perhaps if people challenge themselves to think of five neutral to actually positive (and life bringing) adjectives for a person that help them define compartmentalize in love, it would help their interactions with people AND cause them to grow.

It takes effort.
 

Mii

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Regarding the actual struggle of being disabled. It's an imperfect world...maybe God opens a door for you to get help from a legitimate specialist that can actually assist you but most of the time it's an imperfect situation where the Lord helps us bridge the gap with the imperfect vessels around us. However, we HAVE to reach out (sometimes many more times than once) because these "vessels" have to be willing.

Making use of resources is tough though and it's not what we want it to look like for sure.


Note: I'm not saying this to YOU specifically...just in general to whomever.