Orthodox Jew answers a few questions

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Aviva

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As the title says, I'm an Orthodox Jewish woman. My Christian sister in law asked me to post a little about us since the subject has come up recently due to recent world issues to answer some confusion/misinformation.

1. Why don't you have sacrifices?
A. Because they can only be done at the temple in Jerusalem buy a Levitical priest. Since the temple no longer exists we can no longer do this.

2. How do you get forgiveness?
A. repent and make restitution, depending on the offended party. (G-d, a person, etc...)

3. What is the Talmud?
A. It is a large number of books containing very boring debates and commentary on the Torah. Although considered scripture it is not additional laws, it is opinions and rulings base don existing law (The Torah).

4. Why don't Jews believe in Jesus?
A. Because we do not believe he meets the requirements to be the Messiah. There are numerous commentaries online if you really want a deeper answer.

5. Do you believe in Hell, the Devil, or the afterlife?
A. No, not really and yes.

Cheers!
 

Eli1

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Welcome.
A friend of mine at work is a Jewish atheist. He's been in U.S. for over 10 years.
He's a cool guy and we have lunch together once a week usually.
 

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As the title says, I'm an Orthodox Jewish woman. My Christian sister in law asked me to post a little about us since the subject has come up recently due to recent world issues to answer some confusion/misinformation.

1. Why don't you have sacrifices?
A. Because they can only be done at the temple in Jerusalem buy a Levitical priest. Since the temple no longer exists we can no longer do this.

2. How do you get forgiveness?
A. repent and make restitution, depending on the offended party. (G-d, a person, etc...)

3. What is the Talmud?
A. It is a large number of books containing very boring debates and commentary on the Torah. Although considered scripture it is not additional laws, it is opinions and rulings base don existing law (The Torah).

4. Why don't Jews believe in Jesus?
A. Because we do not believe he meets the requirements to be the Messiah. There are numerous commentaries online if you really want a deeper answer.

5. Do you believe in Hell, the Devil, or the afterlife?
A. No, not really and yes.

Cheers!
I have a couple of questions, if you are disposed to answer.
What is the basis of forgiveness?
What requirements of Messiah do you believe Jesus doesn't meet?
 

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As the title says, I'm an Orthodox Jewish woman. My Christian sister in law asked me to post a little about us since the subject has come up recently due to recent world issues to answer some confusion/misinformation.

1. Why don't you have sacrifices?
A. Because they can only be done at the temple in Jerusalem buy a Levitical priest. Since the temple no longer exists we can no longer do this.
Do the Orthodox Jews you know take the loss of the temple as a sign that God is/was displeased with them? Or do they just doubt He was powerful enough to protect them? Or something else?

Do the Orthodox Jews you know ever wonder about the timing of the destruction of the temple, how it came so soon after Israel's rejection of Jesus as Messiah, and how it fits in so well with Daniel's prophecy about Messiah? Or just another coincidence?

Do the Orthodox Jews you know consider Isaiah 53 to be a prophecy about Messiah, and if so, which parts do they believe do not apply to Jesus.

Isaiah 53:1-12
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
 

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Welcome.
A friend of mine at work is a Jewish atheist. He's been in U.S. for over 10 years.
He's a cool guy and we have lunch together once a week usually.
Atheist Jew is an oxymoron. If he doesn't believe in G-d then he is an apostate.
 

Aviva

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I have a couple of questions, if you are disposed to answer.
What is the basis of forgiveness?
What requirements of Messiah do you believe Jesus doesn't meet?
As I said forgiveness is based on genuine repentance and if necessary, restitution.
 

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4. Why don't Jews believe in Jesus?
A. Because we do not believe he meets the requirements to be the Messiah
Unfortunately, this is exactly why God brought divine judgment upon Israel, and the Jews were exiled from Judea in the first century.
 

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Welcome to CC Aviva, it is a pleasure to have you join us. I look forward to hearing your views and opinions and maybe even giving us a little more balance in our views. There are many questions I would like to ask but will hold them for a little while. Know that you are loved here.
 

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Atheist Jew is an oxymoron. If he doesn't believe in G-d then he is an apostate.
You think so?
What is your view of God? Is He a personal God or a non personal God?
Is He a military God?
Can you even say His came or do you refer to Him in an abstract unknown way?
Is ‘He’ even a ‘He’?

Oh, my Jewish friend tells me a lot of funny stories from Israel.
He was telling me once how some rabbies were hitting an ambulance with rocks because they were working on Saturday. :D
 

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Oh, my Jewish friend tells me a lot of funny stories from Israel.
He was telling me once how some rabbies were hitting an ambulance with rocks because they were working on Saturday. :D
Oy .:oops:. Here's to hoping none of them require an ambulance on the Sabbath.
 

Aviva

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You think so?
What is your view of God? Is He a personal God or a non personal God?
Is He a military God?
Can you even say His came or do you refer to Him in an abstract unknown way?
Is ‘He’ even a ‘He’?

Oh, my Jewish friend tells me a lot of funny stories from Israel.
He was telling me once how some rabbies were hitting an ambulance with rocks because they were working on Saturday. :D
They are ultra orthodox thugs.

1. They are actually violating shabbat laws themselves by throwing rocks.

2. Saving lives takes precedence over shabbat, and they know it.
 

Aviva

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So basically, what we do. How do we make restitution to God? What does God find acceptable as restitution?
Usually charitable donations, donating time to worthy causes. Things like that.
 

Aviva

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What does that have to do with ethnicity? Judaism is the religion.
Jewish is not a race. There are black Jews, white Jews and Asian Jews. It is true Jews were mostly black and semitic originally, but that has changed over the centuries obviously.
 

Magenta

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Jewish is not a race. There are black Jews, white Jews and Asian Jews. It is true Jews were mostly black and semitic originally, but that has changed over the centuries obviously.
Nor did I say race. Does not change the fact that "Jew" is not a religion. Judaism is.
 

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Well, welcome aboard Aviva. Hopefully you'll hang around and join other conversations.
 
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