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seems your doctrine is wrong
I'm speaking of the doctrine of Christ from God's Word.... those that aren't being led in to ALL the Truth (whole counsel of God) wouldn't understand since satan blinds the minds of those that don't believe... along with those that suffer from acure Cherry Picker's Syndrome (CPS) and believe only a few happy verses are true and throw the rest of what the Lord says about salvation in the trash.



What works did you do to get saved?
Accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior... and receiving His Holy Spirit to empower me to be obedient... are good works that all men are called to... it's called being obedient.

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.


Those that continue in their sin and teach others that it matters not if we sin (like your boy Gnarly Charlie Stanley) are children of disobedience

Colossians 3:5
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:


Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


2 Thessalonians 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:


1 Corinthians 6:19, 20
Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own....for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Peter 1:13-16
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ… As obedient children, not fashioning (agreeing with) yourself according to the former lusts in your ignorance… But as He which has called you is holy, so be yourself holy in all manner of lifestyle… Because it is written, Be holy; for I am holy.


satan has tricked and deceived many in to believing being obedient to the gospel, being obedient to God's calling upon mankind is "works salvation"... and the joke is on them because they did not study God's Word for themselves and got blinded by satan!

We are called to good works... and doing evil works causes people to not inherit God's kingdom.

And yet many will argue in favor of being able to do evil works and strill be saved as they continue in their deception!

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Galatians 6:9-10
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.


Hebrews 13:16
But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

Luke 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Matthew 7:18-20
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


Romans 2:5-11
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.


1 Timothy 6:17-19
Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.


Psalm 34:14
Depart from evil and do good; Seek peace and pursue it.

2 Timothy 2:20,21
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.


James 2:14-20
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?


James 3:13
Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

1 Peter 3:10-12
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.


2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Colossians 1:9,10
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;


2 Timothy 3:16,17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
 
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always a blessing listening to Charles Stanley
Even though he teaches one can be gay and still be saved... which is in direct opposition to what the Lord says in His Word? Really???
 

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Do you discuss anything without bringing OSAS into it?
It's obviously an obsession with him. He seems to be suffering from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(
 
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It's obviously an obsession with him. He seems to be suffering from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome
Nope, just trying to help others know and understand that the OSAS peoples are teaching doctrines of demons.
 

mailmandan

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Nope, just trying to help others know and understand that the OSAS peoples are teaching doctrines of demons.
Don't expect believers in the OSAS camp to take you seriously. You sound and act like a troll.
 
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Don't expect believers in the OSAS camp to take you seriously. You sound and act like a troll.
The OSAS peoples are deceived.... it's the normal people that need to be told the OSAS peoples are teaching doctrines of demons and should be ignored.

Yes of course... those that don't embrace the false doctrines of the OSAS peoples are called "trolls" by the OSAS camp!
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It's obviously an obsession with him. He seems to be suffering from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(
I noticed that
It's obviously an obsession with him. He seems to be suffering from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(
Amazing how many "sinless" people come in here to hunt osas people.
 
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Amazing how many "sinless" people come in here to hunt osas people.
Did you cut these verses out of your bible???

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not


1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not


Nobody is saying they are perfect in the literal sense... but, we should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christians to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

OSAS is the scourge of the church... leading millions to hell since the "reformation" which resulted in changing one lie for another lie... all a snare, a trick of satan!
 

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Did you cut these verses out of your bible???

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not


1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not


Nobody is saying they are perfect in the literal sense... but, we should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christians to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

OSAS is the scourge of the church... leading millions to hell since the "reformation" which resulted in changing one lie for another lie... all a snare, a trick of satan!
like how you cut out if we confess our sins he is faithful to forgive us? If you read any of my posts you'd know I don't believe in continuing sin so grace may abound, so have fun passing judgment, I don't answer to you.
 
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like how you cut out if we confess our sins he is faithful to forgive us? If you read any of my posts you'd know I don't believe in continuing sin so grace may abound, so have fun passing judgment, I don't answer to you.
When one turns away from the Lord and sins, they must forsake their sin and confess their sin to the Lord in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again according to His Word.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 
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I don't believe in continuing sin so grace may abound
But, you probably DO believe one cannot lose their salvation even if they were to live in sin, tight?

This is what the leading proponent of the OSAS doctrines teaches... Gnarly Charlie Stanley:

He actually taught one can be a "gay christian" and still go to Heaven proving he is a false teacher!

Here's a video where you can see video of Charlies saying this (just a few minutes into the video)

In this video, Chalie says he's proud of Andy and supports him after heresy charges

Can a Person Live a Life of Sin and Remain Saved?
 

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But, you probably DO believe one cannot lose their salvation even if they were to live in sin, tight?

This is what the leading proponent of the OSAS doctrines teaches... Gnarly Charlie Stanley:

He actually taught one can be a "gay christian" and still go to Heaven proving he is a false teacher!

Here's a video where you can see video of Charlies saying this (just a few minutes into the video)

In this video, Chalie says he's proud of Andy and supports him after heresy charges

Can a Person Live a Life of Sin and Remain Saved?
That's not what I believe at all, I think you can in a sense "lose it" as you say, assuming you flat refuse to repent even after coming to knowledge of the truth, "usually" these people know are opposing god and leading people astray for their own ends and at that point are really just "identifying as christians". Since we don't know exactly how god scores a soul we have to assume, all we know is we can suffer losses without being harmed, but other's say lord lord, and don't get into heaven.

Once saved always saved( I didn't know there was an acronym for it till I came here) wasn't invented by any of those people, they're just glorified false prophets leading people astray.
 

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It's obviously an obsession with him. He seems to be suffering from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(
I'm feeling led by this.
Proverbs 20:3
3 It is to one’s honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.

It won't be easy, somedays I think he'd take a topic about antenna losses and bring OSAS into it.
 
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all we know is we can suffer losses without being harmed
That scripture does not even mention sin where other scriptures tell us straight up that sin will cause one to not inherit the Kingdom of God.

The false teachers use 1 Corinthians 3-10–17 to make their false claim that even if one lived in sin they would still be saved and only lose a few rewards which is not what 1 Corinthians 3-10–17 is about at all.
 
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I'm feeling led by this.
Proverbs 20:3
3 It is to one’s honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.

It won't be easy, somedays I think he'd take a topic about antenna losses and bring OSAS into it.
Yeah, some folks don't care that false teaching is sending millions to hell... they are either ignorant of it, or complacent.

Raising awareness of satan's tricks is not quarreling... but, I'd imagine that's what the devil tells them.

Most folks that don't want to hear that OSAS is false doctrine just put me on ignore. That way they can continue in their beloved false doctrine and not see posts telling them they need to repent before it's too late.
 

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Yeah, some folks don't care that false teaching is sending millions to hell... they are either ignorant of it, or complacent.

Raising awareness of satan's tricks is not quarreling... but, I'd imagine that's what the devil tells them.

Most folks that don't want to hear that OSAS is false doctrine just put me on ignore. That way they can continue in their beloved false doctrine and not see posts telling them they need to repent before it's too late.
You need help. :cautious:
 

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He began by saying "I know thy works..."

So they did have works but they were not the works that they did at the beginning

What works did you do to get saved?
The even bigger question is who gets the credit and glory for these works. This guy Jimmy, and I hate he has my name, believes he gets the credit, so I guess he can boast. He believes we are saved by grace the proper way, but believes after that it is him and his ability to obey God that sanctifies himself. Not that God changed him by resurrecting his dead spirit and reconciled it back to His Holy Spirit thereby making us all new and changing our hearts to desire to obey in the way we were incapable of before we are saved. I have no problem giving God ALL credit and glory for any "good" I've done since that day 10 years ago. He wants to usurp Gods glory for this and take it for himself, and all while doing nothing but accusing and condemning others. It's honestly sad and I have been praying God uses these conversations in the future to open his eyes to the truth instead of this false works religion he's stuck in fighting no one but Christians.
 
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This guy Jimmy.... believes he gets the credit
That's hilarious... I never said I get the credit.
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I'm saying the Lord has empowered His people thru His Word and His Spirit to do good works!

but believes after that it is him and his ability to obey God that sanctifies himself
Too bad you don't believe this scripture applies to you... it does to me!

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.


Did you notice the "through Christ which strengthens me" part?

Did you see that homie???


He wants to usurp Gods glory for this and take it for himself,
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Even though he teaches one can be gay and still be saved... which is
in direct opposition to what the Lord says in His Word? Really???
We are clothed in His righteousness because mere mortals have none of their own.

Do you claim sinless perfection???
 
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We are clothed in His righteousness because mere mortals have none of their own.

Do you claim sinless perfection???
I spilled my ice tea recently at supper... proving I'm not perfect in the literal sense... that does not mean I willingly or knowingly do sinful things.

BIG difference between the two.

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not


1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not


We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christian to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

Too many people are doing sinful things and calling them mistakes, which is just an excuse to continue in sin which makes them to no longer be in right standing with the Lord according to Gal 6:7,8 among others..

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


One cannot be gay and go to Heaven... if you need scripture references for that, let me know.