Very telling...

You have to understand though, he thinks it's up to him to stay saved. He could lose his salvation at any time, so it's up to him and his power to "obey" in order to keep it.
Pretty heavy burden if you ask me, but he honestly believes that sanctification is all on him and his will power. At least if he makes it he can boast about his amazing power instead of Gods. That's what He says about it in His word, right?

Jesus said it's man's responsibility to abode IN HIM (John 15)

Gal 6:7,8 tells us that WE are the ones either sowing to the Spirit reaping life, or sowing to the flesh reaping corruption. Lots more God's Word has to say about this...

Just because you believe the false doctrine of OSAS saved does NOT mean everyone is suffering from acute Cherry Pickers Syndrome (CPS) which leads people to reject the whole counsel of God.

Sounds works-oriented.

Abiding in Christ is only possible for those who are saved. It doesn't produce or maintain salvation. It merely represents our highest good and is the estate in which we are walking according to the Spirit.
If we were responsible for our salvation, there is no need of Jesus. And if we are responsible to maintain our saved estate, there is no reason to walk in the Spirit. We are plenty capable.
People who say we owe all the glory to God for our salvation, but somehow we must maintain our estate ourselves, are merely nullifying scripture and backloading salvation with works.

You keep mentioning osas. How does that equate with listening to secular music?

I don't have any secular music in my collection, except for a few comedy tracks and some classical, but if a secular song has something to say and says it well I can appreciate it. But I don't believe once saved always saved.

I also don't believe it's your personal job to badger people until they toe your particular line, where you have chosen to draw it. Who in the frosty void do you think you are? So far we have seen no reason we should listen to anything you say.

Did you really say that in a thread about Christian metal, while badgering us about music we listen to in this thread? Really?!

This is a song that says nothing about God. It talks about coffee. How is this song evil? Why should we not listen to it?

I can listen to anything that sounds good.

So I must ask, what does it look like to be friends of the world?

Well to me, I just thought it was about bearing no good fruit. Fighting, arguing, coveting, enving, and the like. Not being peace loving, boasting, generally being inconsiderate, stuff like that. I just cant see no harm in listening to secular stuff if you're not harming anyone.

Blessings

We don't wanna
Hurt nobody
We just wanna
Rock and roll!

Wait, what was that about arguing? Hmm, who has been arguing in this thread... Think, think, think...

If you are listening to secular music... you be listening to evil music.

You know music that satan enjoys that he's taping his toe to along with you.

A song about coffee is evil?

What about a Jonny Diaz song about chick-fil-a? Is that evil too? Prove it.

That's EXACTLY what it is, and the more this guy acts like He is the mouthpiece of God and can see into souls to declare who is saved and who's not, the more I think it may be his own salvation he should be paying more attention to. He doesn't help teach he condemns, he doesn't ask or listen, just assume and assert. He really is very audacious and much more bold than his proclaimed beliefs should allow him to be, if he lived up to his own standard. He has a fundamental misunderstanding thinking that it's his own willpower that he is sanctified by.

It's just the "nose in the air" way he approaches his "brothers and sisters", to me, that is evidence that he has not truly experienced the power of our Creator that makes us all new. He doesn't seem to understand what happens spiritually when we are born again. Honestly I will not even engage with him anymore, he refuses to listen or have a real conversation, he just lifts up his own power to obey and condemns everyone else. Not very good fruit if you ask me.

God created music to glorify Himself... these songs don't do that, so they won't be found in God's Kingdom.

That's what all the religious people in Jesus' day said about Him.... Jesus came quoting what God said, and those following false doctrine have a problem with it

Those that have a close relationship with the Lord based on what the Lord says in His Word... know.

No... Those Pharisees were the ones with your nose in the air attitude. You shouldn't talk about your buddies like that.

Well said.

Can't you just see the humility oozing from the Jimmy?


Perhaps the Jimmy is the only one saved on CC?

It doesn't mean what the Jimmy says it means, despite his greatness (please forgive me, oh Great Jimmy, for having such audacity). It means to live your life in a way that shows no regeneration (fighting, cheating people, lying, bed-hopping, getting divorced multiple times, getting drunk, and all with no repentance of heart). It would seem that the Great Jimmy has mastered all of these qualities. The only ones he lacks are humility and love, but I'm sure with his greatness, these are coming soon enough.

Oh I do agree, but he has so many buttons that it's fun to press them and see what happens!